London Knights 2022-23 Off-Season Thread (Part 1)

[dirty12]

No disputing the player. I just have a hard time seeing the Petes getting back everything they gave up to get him, for half the service time. That’s all.

For 1.5 years the got ‘22-6th pick, ‘20-22nd pick, 2, 2, 3, 4.
This year, they may get back the 10-20 pick; big difference than 6th over all I think.

 

[Fastpace]

You should check how few 19 year olds play in the NHL each season—especially those taken in the back half of the first round.

Unless Cowan has a Wyatt Johnston-like 18 year old season, he’ll be back next season. Defenceman like Bonk need their full eligibility in juniors to develop their offensive confidence.

Not to diminish their talents, but they both should be back in the OHL, which is the case for all but the elite CHL prospects.

Haltunnen could go to the AHL, but he had a rough season against men, and San Jose probably wants an environment where he can reach his offensive potential. I know someone brought up Mesar, but Kitchener really dropped the ball last season on his development, which probably led to Montreal wanting to have greater control over his development. Dale and Mark’s track record speaks for itself. Teams won’t be worried about them mishandling important development seasons (which is why SJ signed him explicitly to go to London).

This is a good post Starry Knight, and do agree for most part except for the Mesar case.

Mesar is a much improved player opposed to one year ago, he has develop the aspect of the game he was asked to do and I thought Kitchener did an excellent job with him. Montreal needed him to work on other area of his game, not to feel he's the only player on a line of 3, be more supportive of his teammates. I know they are a rival team but Kitchener brought him along very well and made him much more complete. It'd be only fair for him to return for one more year for paying them back, it could happen as Laval is loaded this year.

I agree with most second half of first round drafted players are rare to make an NHL team, they need to be be exceptional to advance at that level as 19 yr olds, even early first rounders are finding it hard reaching that level. London could see a lot of 19 year olds back next year

 

[EvenSteven]

For 1.5 years the got ‘22-6th pick, ‘20-22nd pick, 2, 2, 3, 4.
This year, they may get back the 10-20 pick; big difference than 6th over all I think.

A big reason why Peterboro and Sarnia traded their 1st rounders is because they were all in and their cupboards were virtually bare.

Most of the top contenders this year are flush with high picks. Unless they get themselves in a situation where they exhaust the picks, and still feel they need Beck, then you might see a 1st moved.

London moved Testa last year when they still had picks in the cupboard. I doubt they do that if they thought Testa was going to become elite. They had til the new year to evaluate him. They made a decision. The Hunters get it wrong once in a while in the first round, but they rarely get it wrong in trade.

 

[LDN]

Who is going to camps ?!

I would assume all the picked guys + Crane, McCue, Gazizov, Bowen?

 

[tjziel]

I don’t know why the expectation is that Haltunnen is leaving after this season. Unless he tears it up this season, his performance prior to this season hasn’t suggested an ability to play in the AHL as a 19 year old. Bonk and Cowan aren’t really threats to make the NHL as 19 year olds.

The only real concern is that Dickinson makes the NHL. Losing George and Edward will hurt, but beyond that most of the team should be returning.

Dude 200% Halttunen is leaving after this year. You can’t be that big, have that blast of a shot, and have amazing leadership qualities and not make it to the next league.

Cowan ain’t going to the show next year, but Bonk has a low percentage chance of making the NHL. I would think we will get some NHL games similar to Bouchard and then get sent down to dominate the OHL like Bouchard.

I’m placing a friendly wager that one of those 3 are gone, and it most certainly is Halttunen.

 

[dirty12]

A big reason why Peterboro and Sarnia traded their 1st rounders is because they were all in and their cupboards were virtually bare.

Most of the top contenders this year are flush with high picks. Unless they get themselves in a situation where they exhaust the picks, and still feel they need Beck, then you might see a 1st moved.

London moved Testa last year when they still had picks in the cupboard. I doubt they do that if they thought Testa was going to become elite. They had til the new year to evaluate him. They made a decision. The Hunters get it wrong once in a while in the first round, but they rarely get it wrong in trade.

At least one 1st gets moved I think. The player trumps picks when more than one team wants the same rental. Guelph and Sudbury can easily justify trading theirs.

 

[EvenSteven]

At least one 1st gets moved I think. The player trumps picks when more than one team wants the same rental. Guelph and Sudbury can easily justify trading theirs.

Saginaw as well. And could London flip Henry B at the deadline?

Teams may weight whether you trade your 1st for a graduating player, as Sarnia did last year, or for a returning player, as Peterboro did.

I like how the Petes cupboard will look after this deadline than how Sarnia’s will look.

If Rehkopf proves to be as high end as we expect this year, and a team is faced with acquiring either him or Beck for the same package, a team may choose to use that package on Rehkopf and then move him in the off season.

Of course, then another team may then go after Beck for that package as well.

 

[dirty12]

Saginaw as well. And could London flip Henry B at the deadline?

Teams may weight whether you trade your 1st for a graduating player, as Sarnia did last year, or for a returning player, as Peterboro did.

I like how the Petes cupboard will look after this deadline than how Sarnia’s will look.

If Rehkopf proves to be as high end as we expect this year, and a team is faced with acquiring either him or Beck for the same package, a team may choose to use that package on Rehkopf and then move him in the off season.

Of course, then another team may then go after Beck for that package as well.

Not all 1sts will waive NTC.
Henry B is probably one. Unless it’s home to London, I’d be very surprised if Young accepted a trade that took away his chance at playing in a memorial cup and playing with Misa in their draft years.

 

[LDN]

Dude 200% Halttunen is leaving after this year. You can’t be that big, have that blast of a shot, and have amazing leadership qualities and not make it to the next league.

Cowan ain’t going to the show next year, but Bonk has a low percentage chance of making the NHL. I would think we will get some NHL games similar to Bouchard and then get sent down to dominate the OHL like Bouchard.

I’m placing a friendly wager that one of those 3 are gone, and it most certainly is Halttunen.

2nd round pick

 

[tjziel]

Saginaw as well. And could London flip Henry B at the deadline?

Teams may weight whether you trade your 1st for a graduating player, as Sarnia did last year, or for a returning player, as Peterboro did.

I like how the Petes cupboard will look after this deadline than how Sarnia’s will look.

If Rehkopf proves to be as high end as we expect this year, and a team is faced with acquiring either him or Beck for the same package, a team may choose to use that package on Rehkopf and then move him in the off season.

Of course, then another team may then go after Beck for that package as well.

Call me crazy but I would trade Henry B for Carson Rehkopf in a hard beat. We would still get 2 years out of him, and the brothers get united which is what Rangers fans wanted.

But likely not gonna happen

 

[LDN]

Call me crazy but I would trade Henry B for Carson Rehkopf in a hard beat. We would still get 2 years out of him, and the brothers get united which is what Rangers fans wanted.

But likely not gonna happen

Yeah that’s a good trade if it’s 1 for 1 or knights add a bit

 

[Knightsfan90]

Dude 200% Halttunen is leaving after this year. You can’t be that big, have that blast of a shot, and have amazing leadership qualities and not make it to the next league.

Cowan ain’t going to the show next year, but Bonk has a low percentage chance of making the NHL. I would think we will get some NHL games similar to Bouchard and then get sent down to dominate the OHL like Bouchard.

I’m placing a friendly wager that one of those 3 are gone, and it most certainly is Halttunen.

The way he skates like a man amongst boys out there is scary. If he wants the puck it's his good luck getting it from him without taking a penalty.

 

[Fergus31]

delete

 

[Matt93]

As I sit here with dreaded sleep insomnia yet again, I guess I’m about to step onto my soapbox for a minute. Been thinking about the tragedy last year lately.

Just want to say that I’m looking forward to watching the 20+ consecutive year of development of the players this year. I, of course, would love to see another Memorial Cup championship for London but I’d even be fine with no trades. Just appreciating the effort the org and players put into getting better and giving kids a chance elsewhere that they may not have with London. Sending positive vibes to all. Even Windsor. But especially Niagara. They need serious help.

Cheers.

You are not a true Knights fan then. Fans on this board want Mark to trade for every high end player and if not, at least make trades just for the sake of it. Nothing excites this fan base more than new faces even if the current faces are just fine.

 

[LDN]

Barkey, Bonk - Philly
Cowan-Toronto
Julien-Winnipeg
McCue -NYR
Bowen-Edmonton


That’s all I’ve seen so far in terms of rookie camp invites

You are not a true Knights fan then. Fans on this board want Mark to trade for every high end player and if not, at least make trades just for the sake of it. Nothing excites this fan base more than new faces even if the current faces are just fine.

That’s just me brotha!

Truth be told. I am just interested in Mark improving this team and bringing a championship home!

 

[EvenSteven]

Yeah that’s a good trade if it’s 1 for 1 or knights add a bit

Good trade for London. Not for Kitchener.

Two years of Rehkopf is worth quite a bit more.

 

[KnightWatch]

Good trade for London. Not for Kitchener.

Two years of Rehkopf is worth quite a bit more.

Quite a bit more than FOUR years of Brzustewicz?! Rehkopf isn't even a point-a-game player yet!

Have you seen Bruzer skate.....or that cannon of a shot! Once he learns to play defense first (which shouldn't take long), this kid will be a star in this league!

Personally, I'd prefer to hang on to Brzustewicz.

 

[LDN]

Quite a bit more than FOUR years of Brzustewicz?! Rehkopf isn't even a point-a-game player yet!

Have you seen Bruzer skate.....or that cannon of a shot! Once he learns to play defense first (which shouldn't take long), this kid will be a star in this league!

Personally, I'd prefer to hang on to Brzustewicz.

Yeah I highly doubt we trade HB. He’s our future #1 D

23-24 #1D Bonk/Dickinson
24-25#1D Bonk/Dickinson
25-26 #1D Dickinson/Brzustewicz
26-27 #1D Brzustewicz


We are blessed

 

[EvenSteven]

Quite a bit more than FOUR years of Brzustewicz?! Rehkopf isn't even a point-a-game player yet!

Have you seen Bruzer skate.....or that cannon of a shot! Once he learns to play defense first (which shouldn't take long), this kid will be a star in this league!

Personally, I'd prefer to hang on to Brzustewicz.

Based on that thinking, Peterboro never trades Van Volson to Missy for Owen Beck.

Owen Beck, who, going into last year, wasn’t even a point a game player.

 

[OHL4Life]

Yeah I highly doubt we trade HB. He’s our future #1 D

23-24 #1D Bonk/Dickinson
24-25#1D Bonk/Dickinson
25-26 #1D Dickinson/Brzustewicz
26-27 #1D Brzustewicz


We are blessed

despite the niagara trade, you actually do have to give up good players for all these guys you ask about. your not getting rehkopf for kaeden johnston and a 3rd.

 

[TheOrangePylon]

Barkey, Bonk - Philly
Cowan-Toronto
Julien-Winnipeg
McCue -NYR
Bowen-Edmonton


That’s all I’ve seen so far in terms of rookie camp invites

Missing:
George - NYI
Halttunen - San Jose
Edward - Boston

They just announced the list.

9 players going to camps though, that is a large portion of the team!

 

[bobber]

despite the niagara trade, you actually do have to give up good players for all these guys you ask about. your not getting rehkopf for kaeden johnston and a 3rd.

Hunter has enough Ranger skins on the barn door. Better to stay away from the old horse trader.

 

[EvenSteven]

Hunter has enough Ranger skins on the barn door. Better to stay away from the old horse trader.

You have to take the best deal available no matter the team.

It hasn’t been all bad dealing with London. I’d take the Chris MacKinnon deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday!

 

[OHL4Life]

Hunter has enough Ranger skins on the barn door. Better to stay away from the old horse trader.

i dont think he drafts well but he is the best trader in the league.

 

[KnightWatch]

Based on that thinking, Peterboro never trades Van Volson to Missy for Owen Beck.

Owen Beck, who, going into last year, wasn’t even a point a game player.

Obviously, not every GM thinks the way I do (and that's why these deals get done), but I believe the Hunters do.

Giving up a Van Volson for Owen Beck is probably not something the Hunters would do, there's always a better deal available somewhere else (lately, Niagara)! If they did give up a 1st rounder, it's usually because they don't see that player ever reaching superstar status (eg. Testa).

I tend to think they'll hang on to Brzustewicz, unless he doesn't appear to be living up to their expectations.

Since he's one year more established now, let's look at Dickinson as an example....do you think 2 years of Rehkopf would be more valuable than 4 years of Dickinson?