Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

waitin425

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Not sure if Chester gave a report from Friday's game, as he has been doing an excellent job with Mailloux this year.

But, I will offer some insight. First Knights game since December or early January, can't remember. Mailloux's defence has improved quite a bit. I noticed earlier in the season he was getting beat wide, and not transitioning well. Seemed to have no problem with that this game. Offensively he is still a force when he wants to be.

Mailloux is the best player, at least by the eye test on the Knights. I see him in the AHL next year and possibly the following year depending on all of our other d-men. He will be in the show by 25/26.
 

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They are not sending him back to juniors, a 1st round pick going back as an overager just doesn't happen unless he's a mega bust, even if they've missed time like Logan has.

Defense should be interesting next year with Norlinder, Trudeau, Struble and Mailloux.
 

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I hope he can play in Laval.......but Chester would be the best guy to ask.
I think everyone should keep their expectations with respect to Mailloux in check. This is a young player who has played less than 80 games in the OHL. While I fully expect that Mailloux will start next year in Laval, I also expect that he will struggle as he tried to adapt to the faster pace of the game in the AHL. Mailloux will be playing against older, faster and stronger players and the size advantage that he usually enjoys in the OHL will be significantly reduced.

I am confident that once he adjusts to the faster tempo, Mailloux’s superior talent will allow him to succeed in Laval and perhaps even earn a short call up to the big team. But Mailloux’s real emergence will take place midway through the 2024-2025 season.
 
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They are not sending him back to juniors, a 1st round pick going back as an overager just doesn't happen unless he's a mega bust, even if they've missed time like Logan has.

Defense should be interesting next year with Norlinder, Trudeau, Struble and Mailloux.
He's making the PRO jump for sure... Probably gotta look into buying Rocket season tickets...
 
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Getting back on track, did you know Mailloux was capable of a triple digit MPH slapper? I knew he had a great shot but not at such level. Nice to have a player in the org. owning that type of weapon even though modern D tend to go with quick wristers.
When it comes to the finer details I'm not that great scouting wise but when I was seeing his one timer, I was wondering if he didn't have some kind of absurd MacInnis/Weber type clapper.

I'm just glad that we dropped the 'MB picked him to be an edge lord' talk. Kid obviously has crazy tools. Great that his D is improving. As long as that's not a complete train wreck we could have a great offensive D. I don't know how well his offensive game translates but he has the tools for a top pairing guy imo.
 
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Hell, Mike McPhee once scored a highlight reel goal with three opponents draped all over him on his way to the opposing net!

The Man, the Legend, Mike McPhee. I miss guys like that. My friend used to call him and Skrudland "Bucheux de Bandes" which means essentialy "boards chopers" like lumberjacks. Which I always thought was an awesone definition of them.
 
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When looking at the future D in MTL the young ones I think stick around are
Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj (long term)

Potentially moved
Barron, Kovy

With Matheson there till his contract runs

Hutson, Mailloux, Engstrom, Trudeau? being the guys not pro yet

Assume 1 good D pick this year maybe

3 years from now I can see

Matheson (vet ready to leave) - Guhle (Our solid stud)
Harris (Our steady 2 D) - Mailloux (Fire bombs/Xhekaj plays more/PP)
Hutson (Breaking in+getting used to league/PP/Puts up 40+) - Xhekaj (Steady literally everywhere/plays up and down)

Barron draws in on Mailloux/Hutson Probably plays more games than both. Kovy too good to be an 8th D, so maybe one of Huts or Mailloux even still in A. Or hes moved.
Possible 23' pick pushing.
Possible signing added in.

PP Guys:
Huts, Mailloux, Matheson, Guhle

PK Guys:
Guhle, Harris, X, Matheson.

No matter what thats the beginning of a long lifed solid Habs D, and something to be excited about. (Sorry about how much room this post took up)
 

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McPhee was nails tough, and wasn’t a bad scrapper at all, certainly didn’t back down from anyone. I remember one time when the Habs were playing the Oilers, McPhee and Mark Messier got into a brief shoving match. Don Cherry was doing colour commentary, and says “McPhee better watch out for Messier he’s tough.” Danny Gallivan, one of the few times I ever heard him clearly pissed off responded “Mr Cherry, Mike McPhee is from Sydney, Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, and I’m sure he’s fought tougher men than Mark Messier.

Now that’s a lot of years (and beers) ago, so it may not be verbatim but that was the gist of the exchange.
 

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When looking at the future D in MTL the young ones I think stick around are
Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj (long term)

Potentially moved
Barron, Kovy

With Matheson there till his contract runs

Hutson, Mailloux, Engstrom, Trudeau? being the guys not pro yet

Assume 1 good D pick this year maybe

3 years from now I can see

Matheson (vet ready to leave) - Guhle (Our solid stud)
Harris (Our steady 2 D) - Mailloux (Fire bombs/Xhekaj plays more/PP)
Hutson (Breaking in+getting used to league/PP/Puts up 40+) - Xhekaj (Steady literally everywhere/plays up and down)

Barron draws in on Mailloux/Hutson Probably plays more games than both. Kovy too good to be an 8th D, so maybe one of Huts or Mailloux even still in A. Or hes moved.
Possible 23' pick pushing.
Possible signing added in.

PP Guys:
Huts, Mailloux, Matheson, Guhle

PK Guys:
Guhle, Harris, X, Matheson.

No matter what thats the beginning of a long lifed solid Habs D, and something to be excited about. (Sorry about how much room this post took up)
i don't see Barron going anywhere for the foreseeable future.
 

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When looking at the future D in MTL the young ones I think stick around are
Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj (long term)

Potentially moved
Barron, Kovy

With Matheson there till his contract runs

Hutson, Mailloux, Engstrom, Trudeau? being the guys not pro yet

Assume 1 good D pick this year maybe

3 years from now I can see

Matheson (vet ready to leave) - Guhle (Our solid stud)
Harris (Our steady 2 D) - Mailloux (Fire bombs/Xhekaj plays more/PP)
Hutson (Breaking in+getting used to league/PP/Puts up 40+) - Xhekaj (Steady literally everywhere/plays up and down)

Barron draws in on Mailloux/Hutson Probably plays more games than both. Kovy too good to be an 8th D, so maybe one of Huts or Mailloux even still in A. Or hes moved.
Possible 23' pick pushing.
Possible signing added in.

PP Guys:
Huts, Mailloux, Matheson, Guhle

PK Guys:
Guhle, Harris, X, Matheson.

No matter what thats the beginning of a long lifed solid Habs D, and something to be excited about. (Sorry about how much room this post took up)
It is a great problem to have with all of this depth at D.

The ABSOLUTE best case scenario is....

- Guhle continues his rise to a legit top pairing d man next year
- Hutson dominates NCAA and WJHC next year, landing with us towards the end of the season for a showcase. Makes big club in 2024/25, rises to top line Makar/Fox light role by 2025/26
- Barron spends 75% of the season on the big club next year going up and down (only because of depth) and eventually settling in as a solid 2nd or 3rd pair by 2024/25
- Mailloux takes Barron's spot in the AHL and spends 2 full years there, developing his game to be a solid 2nd or 3rd pairing guy by 2025/26
- Xhekaj continues to punish everyone in his path. I don't see his ceiling as high as some of these guys, but I see him as a reliable, crease clearing monster in a 2nd or 3rd pairing role
- Harris continues to be a steady presence. Of all of our d-men he might be the best trade chip to include in a package for PLD.
- Matheson mentors the young guns. I am good keeping him right to the end of his contract and beyond, but in my mind it is either him or Harris (possibly Mailloux but I doubt teams want the headache) that is used as trade bait should we need to acquire something else.

by 2025/26....

Guhle - Hutson
Xhekaj - Barron
Harris - Mailloux
 

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It is a great problem to have with all of this depth at D.

The ABSOLUTE best case scenario is....

- Guhle continues his rise to a legit top pairing d man next year
- Hutson dominates NCAA and WJHC next year, landing with us towards the end of the season for a showcase. Makes big club in 2024/25, rises to top line Makar/Fox light role by 2025/26
- Barron spends 75% of the season on the big club next year going up and down (only because of depth) and eventually settling in as a solid 2nd or 3rd pair by 2024/25
- Mailloux takes Barron's spot in the AHL and spends 2 full years there, developing his game to be a solid 2nd or 3rd pairing guy by 2025/26
- Xhekaj continues to punish everyone in his path. I don't see his ceiling as high as some of these guys, but I see him as a reliable, crease clearing monster in a 2nd or 3rd pairing role
- Harris continues to be a steady presence. Of all of our d-men he might be the best trade chip to include in a package for PLD.
- Matheson mentors the young guns. I am good keeping him right to the end of his contract and beyond, but in my mind it is either him or Harris (possibly Mailloux but I doubt teams want the headache) that is used as trade bait should we need to acquire something else.

by 2025/26....

Guhle - Hutson
Xhekaj - Barron
Harris - Mailloux
Love it either way. Its so pretty :)
 
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It was the London Knights skills competition yesterday, and Mailloux' team won it.

He also won the Hardest Shot and came 2nd in the Elimination Shootout.

 

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What's more value to you?

Mailloux
or
Panthers 1st (Reinbacher or another D we can get in the 14-18 range?)

Because Mailloux is developing nicely , hes above the panthers 1st in term of value. Adding the fact that we have no depth on the RD position , I wouldnt entertain trading him.

With the panthers pick I hope they gonna draft one RD to bring another good prospect to shore up the right side of our defense. One of these 2 players would be a good pick
- Reinbacher
- Sandin Pellikka
 
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When it comes to the finer details I'm not that great scouting wise but when I was seeing his one timer, I was wondering if he didn't have some kind of absurd MacInnis/Weber type clapper.

I'm just glad that we dropped the 'MB picked him to be an edge lord' talk. Kid obviously has crazy tools. Great that his D is improving. As long as that's not a complete train wreck we could have a great offensive D. I don't know how well his offensive game translates but he has the tools for a top pairing guy imo.
Good report.

Here is my assessment of Mailloux's play against the Flint Firebirds.

Overall: Mailloux played a strong, game and was effective in all three zones of the ice. He played in all high leverage situations as Hunter continues to rely heavily on Mailloux in all critical in-game situations. From this observer's perspective, Mailloux was, in an understated and controlled manner, the most impressive London player in the game.

Offensively: While he was kept off the score sheet, through his skating, shooting, passing and overall offensive vision, Mailloux created multiple scoring chances. From his usual half-board position, Mailloux continues to be the player who drives the Knights' power play. Problem is, all opposing teams know this and know that if given a shooting opportunity, he's either going to score or kill their goalie. This overplaying against Mailloux opens up the ice for other players on the ice and, as he has showed against the Fireboards (and as he has shown throughout the year) Mailloux has the skill, vision and patience to find that open teammate. Mailloux showed that NHL + shooting skill multiple times and if he could hit the net more consistently, he would have at least 15 more goals this season. While Mailloux has many intriguing skills (size, reach, skating and a 100+ mph shot) to admire, his overall vision and passing skills are excellent. Like Joe Montana throwing 40 yard pinpoint passes to Jerry Rice, Mailloux easily 'completes' two zone passes to teammates and makes highly intuitive passes in the offensive zone that creates grade A scoring chances. It's a vision and passing ability that few players at the OHL level possess and I would suggest that few of Montreal's current defencemen have. That passing talent and on ice vision, in themselves make Mailloux a valuable asset. And if the Montreal brain trust somehow can't see it, I am certain other teams, with a modicum of insight, can. Talk of trading this prospect, particularly after Montreal has already absorbed and digested so much criticism by selecting Mailloux in the first place, is complete foolishness.

Defensively: While Mailloux will never be a defensive wizard, the defensive side of his game continues to mature. He no longer has a penchant for chasing the play in the defensive zone and is more apt to close the gap and force the play when such a tactic will have a positive result. Put simply, there is a greater purpose and control to his defensive game as he is now using his size and skating advantages to eliminate opposing forwards rather than adopting a stationary stance or chasing opposing forwards all over the ice. Case in point was his play when he was able to neutralize a rush by one of the OHL's fastest forwards, Amadeus Lombardi. Lombardi tried to sweep around the London Knight when Mailloux turned with Lombadi and by employing his great edge skating ability was able to squeeze the rushing forward against the boards behind the net and take the puck away. It was a play that Mailloux couldn't or wouldn't do at the start of the season. As some know, I suggested several months ago, that perhaps Mailloux's future in the NHL was as a forward. Against Flint, I had a chance to watch Mailloux play as a forward for one shift when leaving the penalty box after serving his 2 minute penalty he immediately went and played left wing. For that short shift Mailloux reminded me of the old Russian player, Alexander Yakushev. Same size, frame and skating style. How's that for a blast from the past?

Other Notes: The game also provided me with another opportunity to watch a player who first caught my eye at the most recent Prospects Game: Coulson Pitre. This kid has NHL written all over him. He has size , excellent skating, agggression and a nose for the net. Pitre has 24 goals and 34 assists in 57 games. He may be a bit of a reach to take him with Florida's 1st rounder, but if Pitre is available at the top of the second round when we are drafting, I would grab him. In my view he's as good a prospect as Beck. Maybe even better.

I gotta agree now. A couple months ago this wasnt my thought, but I think he needs/should be a part of this core future. Shame too cause I love Kovy. They cant all stay :(
So do opposing forwards.
 

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Because Mailloux is developing nicely , hes above the panthers 1st in term of value. Adding the fact that we have no depth on the RD position , I wouldnt entertain trading him.

With the panthers pick I hope they gonna draft one RD to bring another good prospect to shore up the right side of our defense. One of these 2 players would be a good pick
- Reinbacher
- Sandin Pellikka

I agree. Hate to trade Mailloux before he turns pro but the Habs did get a good look at him in camp last year.
 
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I agree. Hate to trade Mailloux before he turns pro but the Habs did get a good look at him in camp last year.
Many years ago alot of GM's kept after Serge Savard to trade a collegiate player named Chris Chelios. I remember Savard being interviewed about this and he said- "I am not trading him until I truly know what we have in this player" (paraphrasing). I would say the same applies to Mailloux. Hughes and company don't know what they have in a player who has played less than 75 OHL games.
 

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Many years ago alot of GM's kept after Serge Savard to trade a collegiate player named Chris Chelios. I remember Savard being interviewed about this and he said- "I am not trading him until I truly know what we have in this player" (paraphrasing). I would say the same applies to Mailloux. Hughes and company don't know what they have in a player who has played less than 75 OHL games.

I'd really think hard at trading Mailloux but would we really complain that much if it was Dvorak and Mailloux with a small add (maybe a Kapanen type) for Dubois?

But yeah, I do not like trading guys like Mailloux before they turn pro. We did that with Sergachev and even with him, we got a good look at camp and some NHL games.
 

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I'd really think hard at trading Mailloux but would we really complain that much if it was Dvorak and Mailloux with a small add (maybe a Kapanen type) for Dubois?

But yeah, I do not like trading guys like Mailloux before they turn pro. We did that with Sergachev and even with him, we got a good look at camp and some NHL games.
Another great example with Sergachev. That one stings
 

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