Prospect Info: Logan Mailloux Part 3 The Only Hockey Talk Thread

ChesterNimitz

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After barely playing for 2 years! A freaking stud!


Mailloux > Hutson. Sue me.
Here is my very brief assessment of Mailloux’s play against Kingston last night:

Overall: After a series of uninspiring games by the entire London team during their recent road trip, Mailloux and his teammates were able to overwhelm and exploit a very weak Kingston side after once again falling behind their opponent. London has a solid team built around probably the best defense corps in the OHL. But they lack the dynamic forwards to be able to successfully chase games against superior opposition. Mailloux once again played in all game situations and was paired with multiple defense partners as Hunter tried to shake up his team from their recent lethargy. Mailloux was effective in all zones and was rightly chosen the games’ second star.

Offensively: Mailloux once again displayed the skating, passing, shot and offensive vision that is the hallmark of his game and the overall offensive traits that should make him an impactful player at the next level. After a series of games where his play could best be described as ‘disinterested’, Mailloux was, with Winterton, the most noticeable offensive player on the ice. He made several end to end rushes and prudently joined and supported offensive rushes including one where he scored a highly skillful goal. But the strongest part of Mailloux’s game was his passing. He again showed that he has the best first pass in the OHL and made numerous excellent passes in the offensive zone that created scoring chances. Once he joins the Canadiens, Mailloux should quickly establish himself as one of the most creative playmakers the team has on the blueline.

Defensively: Mailloux was very solid defensively, though the level of the opposition must be taken into account. Kingston has few forwards who posed a problem or threat to the Knights’ defence and Mailloux easily broke up each offensive foray that he faced. If I have one criticism of Mailloux’s play, it’s the consistency of his compete level. In the OHL, because of his obvious size and skill advantages, Mailloux can take off certain shifts. Is it a fatigue factor as result of his long layoff or a motivational issue? If it's the former, then that issue can be easily addressed. If it's the latter, then this kid will quickly learn that in the NHL, where the players he will be competing against are as big and skilled as he is, you can’t take shifts off. But the bottom line is that Mailloux remains an intriguing prospect as he possesses the skating, size and elite skills level that can’t be taught.
 
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Due to size, skating, physicality could Mailloux be better than Hutson when both of them played in the NHL?
I don’t think so….Hutson is elite….will it translate to the NHL?….I hope

Mailloux in my mind will be a safer pick to make the NHL , a steady well rounded D, but when it comes to upside, Hutson is at the top and has the potential to be a superstar in this league if it all comes together.
 

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Here is my very brief assessment of Mailloux’s play against Kingston last night:

Overall: After a series of uninspiring games by the entire London team during their recent road trip, Mailloux and his teammates were able to overwhelm and exploit a very weak Kingston side after once again falling behind their opponent. London has a solid team built around probably the best defense corps in the OHL. But they lack the dynamic forwards to be able to successfully chase games against superior opposition. Mailloux once again played in all game situations and was paired with multiple defense partners as Hunter tried to shake up his team from their recent lethargy. Mailloux was effective in all zones and was rightly chosen the games’ second star.

Offensively: Mailloux once again displayed the skating, passing, shot and offensive vision that is the hallmark of his game and the overall offensive traits that should make him an impactful player at the next level. After a series of games where his play could best be described as ‘disinterested’, Mailloux was, with Winterton, the most noticeable offensive player on the ice. He made several end to end rushes and prudently joined and supported offensive rushes including one where he scored a highly skillful goal. But the strongest part of Mailloux’s game was his passing. He again showed that he has the best first pass in the OHL and made numerous excellent passes in the offensive zone that created scoring chances. Once he joins the Canadiens, Mailloux should quickly establish himself as one of the most creative playmakers the team has on the blueline.

Defensively: Mailloux was very solid defensively, though the level of the opposition must be taken into account. Kingston has few forwards who posed a problem or threat to the Knights’ defence and Mailloux easily broke up each offensive foray that he faced. If I have one criticism of Mailloux’s play, it’s the consistency of his compete level. In the OHL, because of his obvious size and skill advantages, Mailloux can take off certain shifts. Is it a fatigue factor as result of his long layoff or a motivational issue? If it's the former, then that issue can be easily addressed. If it's the latter, then this kid will quickly learn that in the NHL, where the players he will be competing against are as big and skilled as he is, you can’t take shifts off. But the bottom line is that Mailloux remains an intriguing prospect as he possesses the skating, size and elite skills level that can’t be taught.
Great Insight.............curious Chester, were you once a scout? Talent evaluator?
Or maybe just an older statesman like myself who has watched a ton of hockey?
 

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The most important thing for him to do is develop his physique, including by adding sat 20 pounds of muscle. At and staying healthy so he can continue his development.

Where is better for those two things: AHL or NCAA? The safest option is the NCAA.
Ive never heard of a D+2 player go to NCAA after OHL. Any examples?

Also, Laval would be a fine place for him to add weight and learn more defensively.
FWIW, I think 20 pounds is too much. He is already 210 pounds. 230 is way too much.
His weight is fine.

Actually , are you talking about Hutson? Because that would make a lot more sense….
 

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The most important thing for him to do is develop his physique, including by adding sat 20 pounds of muscle. At and staying healthy so he can continue his development.

Where is better for those two things: AHL or NCAA? The safest option is the NCAA.

He can't go to the NCAA if he goes to the CHL.
 

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He can't go to the NCAA if he goes to the CHL.


Ive never heard of a D+2 player go to NCAA after OHL. Any examples?

Also, Laval would be a fine place for him to add weight and learn more defensively.
FWIW, I think 20 pounds is too much. He is already 210 pounds. 230 is way too much.
His weight is fine.

Actually , are you talking about Hutson? Because that would make a lot more sense….
Yes, wrong thread. The discussion went to Hutson, so I thought we were talking about Hutson.
 

ChesterNimitz

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Great Insight.............curious Chester, were you once a scout? Talent evaluator?
Or maybe just an older statesman like myself who has watched a ton of hockey?
Thanks for the kind comments.

For the past ten years I have served as the Executive Director for a large provincial amateur sport organization whose mandate includes supporting grassroots sport and recreational programs and helping in the development of elite level athletes. Our organization is responsible for organizing and fielding midget aged female and male teams in a number of sports, including hockey, at national championships. Though I practiced law for over 30 years, I have been involved with hockey most of my long life starting as a player and serving in various volunteer roles including assistant coach, head coach and team manager.

Prior to my current position I served as a consultant for a number of hockey teams across Canada and ran several summer hockey leagues for under privileged kids. In my current role I have the luxury of having a number of skillful hockey scouts who help me assemble teams (male and female) that will be competing at national hockey championships and major tournaments. I try not to unduly interfere with their and the team manager / coaches' personnel decisions by limiting my involvement to one simple question: Will we be caught slow? I always remind my selection/management team of the old Russian saying: In hockey, if you can skate, anything is possible. If you can't, nothing is.

I have been a fan of the Montreal Canadiens for almost 70 years, having attended my first game at the old, old Montreal Forum in 1957. It was against Chicago, and Montreal won 5-2. I have had the privilege of watching all the greatest players of their respective eras: Richard, Howe, Lindsay; Beliveau, Cournoyer, Ratelle; Hull, Mikita, Keon, Horton, Orr , Esposito, Perreault, Martin, Lafleur, Robinson, Dionne, Salming, Bossy, Potvin, Lemieux, Gretzky, Coffey, Messier, Crosby, Bure, Ovechkin, McDavid, etc. I think I can say with some modesty that I have a small knowledge of the game of hockey. I come from a hockey family. My father played for the RCAF service team during the war. I inherited his passion for what I believe is the greatest sport in the world. As my life winds down, I will continue to follow my passion.

One final note. Some have asked me who was the greatest hockey player that I ever saw. For years, I used to have no hesitation in saying: Mario Lemieux. That I had never seen a player with his combination of size and skill. Now, I have no hesitation in saying : Conner McDavid. Its not even close. I can only say that if a better player comes along, let's all of us on this forum/board hope that he plays for the Montreal Canadiens.

Regards to all.
 

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Thanks for the kind comments.

For the past ten years I have served as the Executive Director for a large provincial amateur sport organization whose mandate includes supporting grassroots sport and recreational programs and helping in the development of elite level athletes. Our organization is responsible for organizing and fielding midget aged female and male teams in a number of sports, including hockey, at national championships. Though I practiced law for over 30 years, I have been involved with hockey most of my long life starting as a player and serving in various volunteer roles including assistant coach, head coach and team manager.

Prior to my current position I served as a consultant for a number of hockey teams across Canada and ran several summer hockey leagues for under privileged kids. In my current role I have the luxury of having a number of skillful hockey scouts who help me assemble teams (male and female) that will be competing at national hockey championships and major tournaments. I try not to unduly interfere with their and the team manager / coaches' personnel decisions by limiting my involvement to one simple question: Will we be caught slow? I always remind my selection/management team of the old Russian saying: In hockey, if you can skate, anything is possible. If you can't, nothing is.

I have been a fan of the Montreal Canadiens for almost 70 years, having attended my first game at the old, old Montreal Forum in 1957. It was against Chicago, and Montreal won 5-2. I have had the privilege of watching all the greatest players of their respective eras: Richard, Howe, Lindsay; Beliveau, Cournoyer, Ratelle; Hull, Mikita, Keon, Horton, Orr , Esposito, Perreault, Martin, Lafleur, Robinson, Dionne, Salming, Bossy, Potvin, Lemieux, Gretzky, Coffey, Messier, Crosby, Bure, Ovechkin, McDavid, etc. I think I can say with some modesty that I have a small knowledge of the game of hockey. I come from a hockey family. My father played for the RCAF service team during the war. I inherited his passion for what I believe is the greatest sport in the world. As my life winds down, I will continue to follow my passion.

One final note. Some have asked me who was the greatest hockey player that I ever saw. For years, I used to have no hesitation in saying: Mario Lemieux. That I had never seen a player with his combination of size and skill. Now, I have no hesitation in saying : Conner McDavid. Its not even close. I can only say that if a better player comes along, let's all of us on this forum/board hope that he plays for the Montreal Canadiens.

Regards to all.
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Impressive
 

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Ive never heard of a D+2 player go to NCAA after OHL. Any examples?

Also, Laval would be a fine place for him to add weight and learn more defensively.
FWIW, I think 20 pounds is too much. He is already 210 pounds. 230 is way too much.
His weight is fine.

Actually , are you talking about Hutson? Because that would make a lot more sense….
Mailloux is 6'3", 217 lbs. Adding weight isn't a priority, IMO.

Could he become a Chris Pronger type D? Man would that be awesome!?
 

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Thanks for the kind comments.

For the past ten years I have served as the Executive Director for a large provincial amateur sport organization whose mandate includes supporting grassroots sport and recreational programs and helping in the development of elite level athletes. Our organization is responsible for organizing and fielding midget aged female and male teams in a number of sports, including hockey, at national championships. Though I practiced law for over 30 years, I have been involved with hockey most of my long life starting as a player and serving in various volunteer roles including assistant coach, head coach and team manager.

Prior to my current position I served as a consultant for a number of hockey teams across Canada and ran several summer hockey leagues for under privileged kids. In my current role I have the luxury of having a number of skillful hockey scouts who help me assemble teams (male and female) that will be competing at national hockey championships and major tournaments. I try not to unduly interfere with their and the team manager / coaches' personnel decisions by limiting my involvement to one simple question: Will we be caught slow? I always remind my selection/management team of the old Russian saying: In hockey, if you can skate, anything is possible. If you can't, nothing is.

I have been a fan of the Montreal Canadiens for almost 70 years, having attended my first game at the old, old Montreal Forum in 1957. It was against Chicago, and Montreal won 5-2. I have had the privilege of watching all the greatest players of their respective eras: Richard, Howe, Lindsay; Beliveau, Cournoyer, Ratelle; Hull, Mikita, Keon, Horton, Orr , Esposito, Perreault, Martin, Lafleur, Robinson, Dionne, Salming, Bossy, Potvin, Lemieux, Gretzky, Coffey, Messier, Crosby, Bure, Ovechkin, McDavid, etc. I think I can say with some modesty that I have a small knowledge of the game of hockey. I come from a hockey family. My father played for the RCAF service team during the war. I inherited his passion for what I believe is the greatest sport in the world. As my life winds down, I will continue to follow my passion.

One final note. Some have asked me who was the greatest hockey player that I ever saw. For years, I used to have no hesitation in saying: Mario Lemieux. That I had never seen a player with his combination of size and skill. Now, I have no hesitation in saying : Conner McDavid. Its not even close. I can only say that if a better player comes along, let's all of us on this forum/board hope that he plays for the Montreal Canadiens.

Regards to all.
Awesome, Chester! Keep following your passion.

I respectfully disagree with you about McDavid VS Lemieux because McDavid, while he dazzles everyone with his blazing speed (and the ability to perform at that speed), he does not effectively use his team mates the way Lemieux could with a talented line mate or a plain tree stump on skates.

I don't feel that McDavid makes hs line mates better, other than complementing another highly skilled player like Draisaitl.

Lemieux would have made me a 30-goal scorer. With McDavid, I'd be lucky to get a few.

The narrative I keep hearing about wingers not being skilled enough to play with McDavid is becoming rather annoying, TBH.

It's the Center's job to make his wingers better, to a large enough degree.

I understand that, if the wingers are complete scrubs that are cross-eyed and can't hit the net to save their lives, even Lemieux might not have been able to make them score ( but, even then, I think Lemieux would have found a way to bounce enough pucks off these players to get them to the 20-goal plateau, regardless ;) ).

I value a Center's game by the following:

Does he make his line mates better?

Lemieux did, to a fault.

I honestly don't think McDavid does. He's more of a one-man show, IMO, and, while that makes for entertaining moments to watch, I honestly don't think it is conducive to icing a Cup-winner.

Please let me know how you feel about that?
 
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Due to size, skating, physicality could Mailloux be better than Hutson when both of them played in the NHL?

He could, but as prospects Hutson has been a lot more impressive. Hutson would be top 3 among dman in the nhl for playmaking + deceptiveness if he reaches his ceiling.
 

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Marinaro reporting Winnipeg is scouting the London Knights heavily. Could it be in a PLD trade??
I hope we don’t include him. I’d rather put Florida 1st in a deal. Not Mailloux.
 
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Marinaro reporting Winnipeg is scouting the London Knights heavily. Could it be in a PLD trade??
I hope we don’t include him. I’d rather put Florida 1st in a deal. Not Mailloux.

Somehow Jersey were able to get Meier without giving up any of their top prospects... If we really have leverage because Dubois wants to come here, hopefully we can do the same.
 
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