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[Rare Jewel]

I think we will do worse than that..

Assuming Brian Burke doesn't meddle with the team....

You call it meddling, I( and most people) would call it improving.

 

[zeke]

The Leafs are no where near challengers for playoffs.

Just like every other year.

What I am personally hoping for is a result that gets a) Nathan MacKinnon (the #1 centre we've been dreaming of) and b) Brian Burke/Dave Nonis fired.

The leafs finished closer to a playoff spot than picking #1 last year.

 

[Warden of the North]

Sportsnet had a cheesy little segment of hockey players playing hockey set to uplifting epic type music. Not gonna lie, I almost cried.

 

[zeke]

also, what's the chance of amnesty'ing komisarek before the 2013-14 season if his play is insufficient again this year?

100%

 

[Leaf Rocket]

The Leafs are no where neae challengers for playoffs.

Just like every other year.

What I am personally hoping for is a result that gets a) Nathan MacKinnon (the #1 centre we've been dreaming of) and b) Brian Burke/Dave Nonis fired.

I don't understand why people aren't aware of the fact that the leafs in the past two season have been in the upswing rather than a slide. We go from a 70% of the season in utter failure a year back and then going insane in a full fledged playoff rush for the last spot. The year after we go from a 30% of the season as a playoff team to 70% and collapse with our young core which left several people perplexed, yet people still fail to see our team is on the rise.

Yea I get the idea of getting a Mackinnon, a drouin, a lindholm, a monahan or a barkov is amazing. I've been following them since day one however it doesn't change the fact a team's main and ultimate goal is to win the stanley cup. Only way that it would be worth to get it would be if we found a freaking sidney crosby from this draft and frankly be told there are none as of yet. For the love of god even he didn't change the team in his first year or second year as well. It took him, Evengi Malkin, M.A. Andre Fleury and so many more pieces.

You are talking about burke and nonis being fired but honestly tell me do you think Sather should be fired from the rangers?

 

[DaveT83*]

Shortened Season will do wonder for the Leafs and their horrid lack of conditioning.

 

[KuleminFan41]

The Leafs are no where near challengers for playoffs.

Just like every other year.

What I am personally hoping for is a result that gets a) Nathan MacKinnon (the #1 centre we've been dreaming of) and b) Brian Burke/Dave Nonis fired.

No where near challengers? Obviously you missed last season and don't give me this ******** about we still didn't make it. We played exceptionally well, a competent coach would have gotten us into the playoffs and not fail so hard. Anybody that knows sports knows this. We deserved playoff hockey last year but sadly we didn't make it

Anyways, its about time they get a deal. Lets get hockey up and running ffs lets do this!

 

[Bomber0104]

Picks from a team that had finished in the #7 range two years running would obviously be worth much more under these new rules than they were before, as they would be much more likely to turn into top 3 picks.

this is obvious, which is why you really have to stop.

No they aren't.

Because you seem to be confused that 1st/2nd/3rd last placed teams have the same probabilities as they do NOW (which are worse) to garnish the 1st overall pick than before.

Do you know what probability is? It's very simple mathematics actually.

Allow me to demonstrate:

(Former setup)

1st - 40% 2nd - 30% 3rd - 10% 4th - 5% 5th - 3% .. etc.

(Current setup)

1st - 20% 2nd - 15% 3rd - 12% 4th - 10% 5th - 9% ... etc.

What it means is that the Leafs would have been better off WAITING until NOW to trade multiple first rounders .

 

[Bomber0104]

The leafs finished closer to a playoff spot than picking #1 last year.

Who cares.

They finished closer to 30th place than 15th place in the standings.

That's why they were 5th last.

 

[Bomber0104]

You call it meddling, I( and most people) would call it improving.

Nope.

Have to give to get.

 

[zeke]

Who cares.

They finished closer to 30th place than 15th place in the standings.

No they didn't. in fact, they finished as close to 13th as 30th.

And you should care, if you're arguing that they were "nowhere near" the playoffs, and then start talking about the 1st overall pick.

 

[Bomber0104]

No they didn't.

And you should care, if you're arguing that they were "nowhere near" the playoffs, and then start talking about the 1st overall pick.

Yes they did.

5th last is closer to 1st last than 16th last.

Because that is just simple math.

11 teams were better than the Leafs.

Simple math.

 

[bradbirtch]

woo Finally!!!!! go leafs!!

 

[Rare Jewel]

Nope.

Have to give to get.

Well you think everything we have is crap anyway.

 

[Kessely Snipes]

Finally!! Good to be back!

 

[Bomber0104]

Zeke is attempting to tell me that a 40% chance at 1st overall should be valued less than a 20% chance at 1st overall.

Again...math is a very core subject in Canadian curriculum.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Be polite

 

[Budsfan]

Too much money involved, for them to have cancelled this year.

Here is some of the CBA agreed upon.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412844

- A player contract term limit for free agents will be seven years and eight years for a team signing its own player.

- The draft lottery selection process will change with all 14 teams fully eligible for the first overall pick. The weighting system for each team may remain, but four-spot move restriction will be eliminated.

 

[Bomber0104]

Be polite

I will.

I can only demonstrate addition and subtraction so far before I get a tad frustrated with the failings of the Ontario schooling system.

Coffee break!

 

[zeke]

Zeke is attempting to tell me that a 40% chance at 1st overall should be valued less than a 20% chance at 1st overall.

Again...math is a very core subject in Canadian curriculum.

Making up numbers is not math, btw.

 

[Bomber0104]

Making up numbers is not math, btw.

Attempting to tell me the Leafs are better than opponents they aren't isn't factual.

What the numbers tell us is that the Leafs finished 5th last.

What numbers in the most general of senses tells us is that 5 is closer to 1 than it is to 16. I learned this many years ago.

So the Leafs should just strive to be 1, pick up a wicked prospect like Nathan MacKinnon, and try to be 16 NEXT YEAR

Keep in mind though that being in last place today does not guarantee the same outcome as it did before (key stipulation and change to the CBA)

 

[shakes]

Great. The Leafs are back for another disappointing year. Hooray?

 

[The Blue Devil]

Yes they did.

5th last is closer to 1st last than 16th last.

Because that is just simple math.

11 teams were better than the Leafs.

Simple math.

Maybe you should check the point totals instead of the standings alone...

 

[King Mapes]

Are we allowed 2 buyouts? If so, who goes? Komi? Who else? I can't think of many I'd buy out. Dion is overpaid but I doubt we buy out our captain.

 

[Leafs For Life*]

Yes they did.

5th last is closer to 1st last than 16th last.

Because that is just simple math.

11 teams were better than the Leafs.

Simple math.

16th last is 14th, but you are talking about simple math? Take out the 'last' part.