GDT: Locker cleanup and Final Season interviews: Bergvein Press Conference at 4:00pm EST

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Braun

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Where did i say that? I said most of them are not really good. There's something between good and bad.

You are right. I'm sorry, you didn't say that. There are definitely more than 3-5 good GM's in the league.
 

Whitesnake

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It pains me to say this, but I have to agree with bergevins assement on beaulieu. He was given a great oppourtunity to prove himself this year, but he fell flat on his face.

I still feel he can be a top 4 guy but he has to show that he wants more than every 4 games or so.

I have no problem for a GM to realize that finally this guy has plateaued and is no good. What I have AGAINST the same GM is that once he realizes it. TRADE HIM RIGHT ****ING now before you can get something interesting and before other GM's realized what you gave them so you can get some value for it.
 

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So in resume, everything is tough. Picking low won't make us get good players unless we are lucky. So signing Price (which means NEVER being able to tank), admitting that everything is tough to get, admitting that picks won't come and save us, MEANS that we are going to be average for the next 8 years.

And that the ONLY thing that would make us great are bounces and luck!

How are you feeling Habs fans? Rejuvenated? :laugh:

Life is not easy man give him a chance.

At my next evaluation at my job if my boss tells me i did a bad job i'll just tell him my job is hard hard and it's not my fault. I'll tell you how it went after losing my job.
 

Jabba11

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Do some of you guys think that Bergevin believes he has the hardest job in the world?

I think in his head, there's like, Mr. Molson, himself(the GM) and then a bunch of reporters that he thinks he's above everybody.

He's as cocky as equally dumb.

"Maman, mon travail est trop dur. Les centres #1 sont trop difficiles à trouver!"

Seriously, I'm finding it hard to believe that we can't find a #1C for the past 15-20 years.

Just imagine him being a teacher or a doctor....maman, it's too hard to treat patients...maman, the kids at school are so hyperactive!"
 

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I have no problem for a GM to realize that finally this guy has plateaued and is no good. What I have AGAINST the same GM is that once he realizes it. TRADE HIM RIGHT ****ING now before you can get something interesting and before other GM's realized what you gave them so you can get some value for it.

Other GMs don't even have to realize it Bergy just told it to everyone ;) We will get nothing for Brolieau and not a lot for AG. People need to let that sink in right now or else they will be disappointed.
 

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I have no problem for a GM to realize that finally this guy has plateaued and is no good. What I have AGAINST the same GM is that once he realizes it. TRADE HIM RIGHT ****ING now before you can get something interesting and before other GM's realized what you gave them so you can get some value for it.

Nate is as good as gone. He knows it. He will get traded for another similar defenseman who is stuck in no mans land.

A guy like joe morrow or derrick pouliot.

I also think he wanted to give Nate one more kick at the can, becuase he's shown he can do it, but at such an inconsistent level he is tough to watch some games.
 

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You are right. I'm sorry, you didn't say that. There are definitely more than 3-5 good GM's in the league.

I should have probably used great instead of good. But you see my point. Like the elite ones able to win multiple cups are not legion. There's not 30 of those like some people think.
 

hersky77

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Other GMs don't even have to realize it Bergy just told it to everyone ;) We will get nothing for Brolieau and not a lot for AG. People need to let that sink in right now or else they will be disappointed.

I don't think ag will be traded. Julien seems to like him, and wants to work with him. Plus the guys especially Weber like him.
 

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So in resume, everything is tough. Picking low won't make us get good players unless we are lucky. So signing Price (which means NEVER being able to tank), admitting that everything is tough to get, admitting that picks won't come and save us, MEANS that we are going to be average for the next 8 years.

And that the ONLY thing that would make us great are bounces and luck!

How are you feeling Habs fans? Rejuvenated? :laugh:

Tomorrow there will be those that say that they never expected Bergevin to reveal his cards in a press conference but to that I say huh? The last 5 years and today basically prove that he is very honest in his press conferences, he simply does not know what he is doing and is in way over his head and it is sinking this team. By the time he is eventually fired there will be nothing left for the new guy to work with, he is a complete moron.
 

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I don't know if I hate Bergevin more or Pierre Gauthier.

Probably Bergevin.He should get fired. It's not even funny. It's so pathetic everytime he's talking. Saying how #1C are too hard to find.

Tyler Seguin is probably a #3C then.

I hate Bergy more. Gauthier sucked but he was dealt a bad hand with injuries and didn't have the Price we have now. Bergy has had everything handed to him and still ****ed up. He is an arrogant loser. I've never disliked a GM like I dislike him.

The things I heard today are some of the dumbest **** I have ever heard from an executive at a press conference.

This is why you don't give out mega deals early...I'M TALKING TO YOU MOLSON! This guy has no plan aside from riding Price.

He's an embarrassment.
 

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Let's sum this up:

-MB knows you need a 1C to win a cup
-MB says it is impossible to trade for said 1C
-MB says we don't pick high enough to draft said 1C
-MB won't/didn't tank to get required picks
-MB will have the Habs stay in mediocrity for the remainder of his tenure

What I really don't get though is that there have been plenty of good centers traded (not necessarily #1's) that would have greatly helped the Habs. If you are going to be "creative" then maybe other options need to be explored. For example having 3 2nd line centers might not be so bad instead of having a #1, #2 and #3. There are ways around the problem.
 

Braun

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I should have probably used great instead of good. But you see my point. Like the elite ones able to win multiple cups are not legion. There's not 30 of those like some people think.

I believe there are other factors than a good GM that dictate who wins are not. Matchups, luck, hot streaks etc...
 

Whitesnake

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Life is not easy man give him a chance.

At my next evaluation at my job if my boss tells me i did a bad job i'll just tell him my job is hard hard and it's not my fault. I'll tell you how it went after losing my job.

Yeah, same for me. If my boss wonders why I'm often late, I,ll say "Well sir, sorry, I just have no luck. There are so many cars out there, and you know those friggin lights that always go red when it's not the time.....not my fault"

And when I erased an entire proposal, well that was pure bad luck. Clicked the wrong spot, bounces didn't go my way. I'M sure it will work out!
 

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Even worse some people wanted Gilbert Brule who was drafted aftre price.

I lived in Vancouver then and desperately wanted Brule. I think CBJ mishandled him and he had a toxic dad but since then I pretty much assume I am a draft idiot.
 

Whitesnake

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Did I miss the time when they said that OF COURSE, we are going to fire Daigneault, Lacroix and Jodoin? I missed it? :sarcasm:
 

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Pierre Mcguire was once quoted as saying..............what a monumental mistake, Montreal has made drafting Carey Price.

So, not much he says, has any credibility with most.........the guy is an absolute idiot.

Teams on the rise, sure Peanut...:shakehead

Max Pacioretty will become the next Mike McPhee. - Pierre McPeanuthead.
 

Jabba11

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Let's sum this up:

-MB knows you need a 1C to win a cup
-MB says it is impossible to trade for said 1C
-MB says we don't pick high enough to draft said 1C
-MB won't/didn't tank to get required picks
-MB will have the Habs stay in mediocrity for the remainder of his tenure

What I really don't get though is that there have been plenty of good centers traded (not necessarily #1's) that would have greatly helped the Habs.

Exactly! The guy is not fit to be our team's GM. He doesn't take any chances. His boldest move wasn't even a risky move. He actually traded away PK for the most sure defensemen in the league. (BTW, still not down for that trade. We will regret very soon).

Tyler Seguin
Jason Spezza
Ryan Kesler
Ryan Johansen
Eric Staal
Jordan Staal

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