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Love to see the energy behind his celebration last night, and to see Swayman mouthing “wow” before their hug, too.

It’s nice that they genuinely cheer for eachother and aren’t threatened when one plays well. It has and will continue to flip flop but they’re both great goalies and we’re lucky to have both. We’re so spoiled with goaltending over the past decade+.
 
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first I want to point out that the people you'd expect, the wisest on this board, totally understood the Linus signing at that cap hit and term. Literally none of the most knowledgeable posters on this forum got that wrong. It was a very level headed and sound assessment of how hard it is for a young tender (Sway) to just jump into an NHL starting role. It happens, but statistically it's very rare.

But my GOODNESS, I went back to look at some of your other takes. You know who you are! Here's a fraction of what the upper deck posted on here:

"$5M backup. Sway my opinion.

I watched Youtube videos on this guy for 20 minutes after the signing and could see problems in lateral movement. I hope the Bruins know what they're doing here.

Linus deer in the headlights ullmark

horrible contract when the Bruins could have saved immensely at goal. Typical Sweeney

Nothing against Linus, but I kinda wish we went with the two rookies.

Linus is a buffalo backup goalie who just won the lottery

Breaking the bank for Ullmark is not the correct safety net.

Ullmark..what a mistake

I would have preferred holtby

Ullmark 5 million full time back up . Ouch."

Moral of the story. When EVERY experienced wise poster on this board is saying the exact same thing (and it's truly not that often), then maybe they're on to something.
 
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goldnblack said:
first I want to point out that the people you'd expect, the wisest on this board, totally understood the Linus signing at that cap hit and term. Literally none of the most knowledgeable posters on this forum got that wrong. It was a very level headed and sound assessment of how hard it is for a young tender (Sway) to just jump into an NHL starting role. It happens, but statistically it's very rare.

But my GOODNESS, I went back to look at some of your other takes. You know who you are! Here's a fraction of what the upper deck posted on here:

"$5M backup. Sway my opinion.

I watched Youtube videos on this guy for 20 minutes after the signing and could see problems in lateral movement. I hope the Bruins know what they're doing here.

Linus deer in the headlights ullmark

horrible contract when the Bruins could have saved immensely at goal. Typical Sweeney

Nothing against Linus, but I kinda wish we went with the two rookies.

Linus is a buffalo backup goalie who just won the lottery

Breaking the bank for Ullmark is not the correct safety net.

Ullmark..what a mistake

I would have preferred holtby

Ullmark 5 million full time back up . Ouch."

Moral of the story. When EVERY experienced wise poster on this board is saying the exact same thing (and it's truly not that often), then maybe they're on to something.
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His lateral movement was a problem though. Maybe that was injuries or something but he has worked on it. And if you watched the Washington game, he went post-to-post to stop a one-timer that he wouldn't have gotten a couple years ago. In Buffalo, he got eaten alive on the PK on plays just like that. So credit to Essensa or whoever is helping him with that.

And I can understand the other takes because everyone thought Tuukka would be back.

That said, the genius of this move was looking a couple years out into the goaltender market and realizing that there's nothing there. July 1, 2021 was the only time to get a goalie for years. This offseason showed a total lack of goaltending talent and next year is even worse. There are going to be 5-6 good teams in the next few years who are utterly desperate for a goalie.

What's also continuing to puzzle me is Minnesota leapfrogging the Bruins in 2022. They swapped with Edmonton to move to 20 from 22 (the Bruins were 21) and picked a goalie. The only reason they would have done that is a belief the Bruins were going to pick him (Jesper Wallstedt).

And the more I look at the goalie market, the more I think the Bruins were planning to pick Wallstedt. Because Sweeney realized that goaltenders will soon start trading for major, major returns. Like I'm thinking that if Ullmark is good this year (and so is Sway), he could go for something like a 1st rounder ++.
 
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His lateral movement was a problem though. Maybe that was injuries or something but he has worked on it. And if you watched the Washington game, he went post-to-post to stop a one-timer that he wouldn't have gotten a couple years ago. In Buffalo, he got eaten alive on the PK. So credit to Essensa or whoever is helping him with that.

And I can understand the other takes because everyone thought Tuukka would be back.

That said, the genius of this move was looking a couple years out into the goaltender market and realizing that there's nothing there. This offseason showed a total lack of goaltending talent and next year is even worse. There are going to be 5-6 good teams in the next few years who are utterly desperate for a goalie.
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If you listened to Razor talk about him all year long on the podcast, all you heard was praise for his technical abilities. It was rather impressive to listen to. In that spot truly I just decided to listen to Razor. Btw I don't include myself in the wisest posters thing obviously. But the Dom's and company all were aligned.
 
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If you listened to Razor talk about him all year long on the podcast, all you heard was praise for his technical abilities. It was rather impressive to listen to. In that spot truly I just decided to listen to Razor. Btw I don't include myself in the wisest posters thing obviously. But the Dom's and company all were aligned.
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Yeah, technically he's great. When he's squared up to the shooter, he's awesome. The question was his athletic ability, which is the issue with lateral movement. Linus is the David Krejci of goalies: he's not an elite athlete so he has to do it with technique and IQ (and size)
 
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Yeah, technically he's great. When he's squared up to the shooter, he's awesome. The question was his athletic ability, which is the issue with lateral movement. Linus is the David Krejci of goalies: he's not an elite athlete so he has to do it with technique and IQ (and size)
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His scouting report was literally "A conservative, yet athletic, reactionary-type goalie"
 
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Love to see the energy behind his celebration last night, and to see Swayman mouthing “wow” before their hug, too.

It’s nice that they genuinely cheer for eachother and aren’t threatened when one plays well. It has and will continue to flip flop but they’re both great goalies and we’re lucky to have both. We’re so spoiled with goaltending over the past decade+.
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We sit right next to the Bs backup net minder and our two goalies interact all during the games. I believe they sincerely like each other. It is always fun to watch.
 
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If you've watched Linus Ullmark for the last year and think he's a great athletic and side-to-side moving goalie, then I don't know what to tell you.

It's not something new: Ranking the 30 NHL Starting Goalies
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There's only 1 nhl goalie 6'5 or taller that I can think of who is a GREAT side to side goalie. He'll go to the HOF. So sure, Ullmark isn't GREAT at it. But he's definitely not bad.
 
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He is locked in. Looks fantastic to start the season. Very happy for him.

And not worried about Sway. Its why they are both here. To pick up the slack when the other struggles. Also, to challenge each other.

Plus, the hugs are wholesome.
 
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Linus caught fire at the end of last season after a rough start, you could see the improvement in his game. This year he has picked up where he left off & then some. He's been outstanding.

Now Swayman can continue to develop without as much pressure he would experience if Ullmark was struggling or was just mediocre. It's a win-win for everybody including us fans.
 
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goldnblack said:
first I want to point out that the people you'd expect, the wisest on this board, totally understood the Linus signing at that cap hit and term. Literally none of the most knowledgeable posters on this forum got that wrong. It was a very level headed and sound assessment of how hard it is for a young tender (Sway) to just jump into an NHL starting role. It happens, but statistically it's very rare.

But my GOODNESS, I went back to look at some of your other takes. You know who you are! Here's a fraction of what the upper deck posted on here:

"$5M backup. Sway my opinion.

I watched Youtube videos on this guy for 20 minutes after the signing and could see problems in lateral movement. I hope the Bruins know what they're doing here.

Linus deer in the headlights ullmark

horrible contract when the Bruins could have saved immensely at goal. Typical Sweeney

Nothing against Linus, but I kinda wish we went with the two rookies.

Linus is a buffalo backup goalie who just won the lottery

Breaking the bank for Ullmark is not the correct safety net.

Ullmark..what a mistake

I would have preferred holtby

Ullmark 5 million full time back up . Ouch."

Moral of the story. When EVERY experienced wise poster on this board is saying the exact same thing (and it's truly not that often), then maybe they're on to something.
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Well he bombed in the play-offs and has rebounded with a stellar three game stretch to start the season, he really showed us.

Trust me I get what you are trying to say but come on, it's three games Last year he proved he was the goalie he was on Buffalo, with a better team in front of him, and his quality save percentage was even down (I know, these type stats are only good when they make your case)

I do think we may have not seen the best from him yet, but it's a little early to be taking victory laps IMO
 
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Ullmark has been great while Sway is trying to find his game.

At some point, this will most likely be reversed. I like Ullmark a lot but it's a long season and he hasn't proved he can go out and start 50-60 games and play at a high level for 80-90 percent of those starts like the elite goaltenders in the league can. That's ok, that's what having a 1A and 1B goaltender tandem is for, both act as safety nets for each other when one needs to sit down and rebound after a couple of bad outings before they fall into a deeper hole and the team suffers for it.

The Bruins goaltender situation is fantastic, both from a cap value standpoint and development for where each are in their current career trajectories.
 
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