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Hags - Step - Nash
Clowe - Richards - Cally
?Dorsett? - Brassard - MZA
Pyatt/Asham - Boyle - Powe

Maybe? Who the **** knows.

EDIT: Just remembered Dorsett is hurt. Hm. Guess Pyatt is gonna stay in the lineup.
 
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I'd love Cally on the 2nd line, but it's been abundantly clear for a year and a half now, him and Richards can't play together. Maybe with Zuke on the left side, it could work. Shockingly, Zuke made Richards look pretty good the other night.
 
SoftEuro4thLiner said:
You know, with a 3rd playmaking center with good vision, it would've actually made sense to keep Kreider up. Just saying.
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Came here to say this. I feel like the biggest necessity for moving Gabby was that Kreider could somewhat fill that role. He hasn't looked bad to me since he's been up and we need a finisher for that Richards line. Kreider has been poorly managed this entire year.

Just hard to fit the pieces...but eventually I want this:

Nash-Stepan-Zucc
Kreider-Richards-Callahan
Hagelin-Brassard-Clowe (play RW?
Pyatt-Boyle-Asham
 
No guarantee Brassard or Moore will play tonight.

Nash-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin/Clowe-Richards-Zuccarello
Hagelin/Clowe-Boyle-Pyatt
Gilroy?-Powe-Asham

Would've kept one of Miller/Kreider up just for tonight.
 
absolutely love stepan-richards-brassard-boyle down the middle

boyle is in his place on the 4th line, can win defensive zone faceoffs and has no offensive role what so ever, thats a win in my book
 
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Nash-Stepan-Callahan
Clowe-Richards-Zuccarello
Hagelin-Brassard-Kreider
Boyle(center)

Pretty please. The fourth I dont care just put boyle there as a center with two whoevers
 
ViCiieux said:
Nash-Stepan-Callahan
Clowe-Richards-Zuccarello
Hagelin-Brassard-Kreider
Boyle(center)

Pretty please. The fourth I dont care just put boyle there as a center with two whoevers
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I like that. But that's what a good coach might do. We don't have one.
 
ViCiieux said:
Nash-Stepan-Callahan
Clowe-Richards-Zuccarello
Hagelin-Brassard-Kreider
Powe-Boyle-Asham

Pretty please. The fourth I dont care just put boyle there as a center with two whoevers
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Liked what you had going, that's what I'd do for the fourth. Looks like at least for tonight we're going to see Miller up where Kreider is though.
 
Nash-Step-Cally
Zucc-Richards-Clowe
Hags-Brassard-Pyatt/Dorsett
Powe-Boyle-Asham

yea basically what the guys above me said :shrug:
 
We got a bit of a logjam.

IMO Lines

When everyone is here in a couple of days:
Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Clowe-Richards-Zucc
Powe/Pyatt-Brassard-Callahan
Asham-Boyle-Pyatt/Powe

Going in to the POs/next season:
Hagelin-Step-Nash
Clowe-Richards-Zucc
Miller-Brassard-Callahan
Kreider-Boyle-Dorsett
Fasth
Lindberg

On the outside/13F:
Pyatt
Asham
Powe
 
Were gonna have one of the most expensive 4th lines in the NHL with pyatt, boyle, dorsett
 
MTrangers said:
What can one really do in 3 minutes? If he was given half the free reign that Miller has been given then I think he would be an asset to the team at this point this year.
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do you guys realize where we are in the standing?? so many clueless ****en people here!!! i feel you guys are like race horses with blinders on....

we're fighting for the playoffs.. this season suck bc of our poor play, torts is going to ride his big players.. we need to win and the only players doing anything out there is Nash, step, callahan and hags so torts will ride them to get scoring and win games or try.. what has miller and kreider done to warrant max playing time or play top 6.. wake up everyone please.. i love kreider want the kid to do amazing here.. i know torts shouldve maybe played him in different areas.. but if we're down 2-1 to Win a team were battling for playoffs we need our top offensive guys who play well to score and get us back in the game as well as keep the lead..They make mistakes and now isnt the time to make mistakes we need to win!!! its not hard to realize that is it?

but he never had the effort this season until he was recalled a week or so ago..give it time.. its a **** season anyway.. bet hes better next year and more consistent..
 
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Give it to Sather. Torts wanted jam. He got his jam.

Now... can this team be a force on the forecheck? I think they can. If that happens the team will do well.

I really think Kreider needs to be brought back up and be allowed to play Top 6 minutes on the wing.

EDIT: how many times since 05-06 did we think bringing in skill was going to spark the offense? Gomez, Drury, Gaborik, Naslund, Zherdev, Richards... never was it enough offense. Who knows, maybe this is the answer for the type of team the Rangers are?
 
After the Alamo... the surviving pieces

PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS 2013 (50)

NEW YORK RANGERS (25)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
1| D | McDonagh, Ryan (ELC) | $1,300,000* |RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 Montreal (2007)
2| F | Stepan, Derek (ELC)| $875,000 | RFA 2013 |New York Rangers/NHL|R2 #51 NYR (2008)
3| F | Hagelin, Carl (ELC) | $875,000* | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R6 #168 NYR (2007)
4 |D| Sauer, Michael (LTIR) | $1,250,000 | RFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL |R2 #40 NYR (2005)
5| F| Clowe, Ryan | $3,625,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R6 #175 San Jose (2001)
6| D| Hamrlik, Roman | $3,500,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #1 Washington (1992)
7| D| Eminger, Steve | $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #12 Washington (2002)
8| D | Zuccarello, Mats| $750,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
9| D | Gilroy, Matt| $650,000 | UFA 2013| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
10| D | Del Zotto, M. | $2,550,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #20 NYR (2008)
11| D| Moore, John (ELC)| $965,000 | RFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009)
12| G | Lundqvist, Henrik | $6,875,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #208 NYR (2000)
13| F | Callahan, Ryan | $4,275,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R4 #127 NYR (2004)
14| D| Girardi, Dan | $3,325,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
15| F| Brassard, Derick | $3,200,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
16| D| Stralman, Anton| $1,700,000| UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R7 #216 Toronto (2005)
17| F| Boyle, Brian | $1,700,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003)
18| F | Pyatt, Taylor | $1,550,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL| R1 #8 New York Isles (1999)
19| F | Powe, Darroll | $1,066,667 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | Undrafted
20| G |Biron, Martin | $1,300,000 |UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #16 Buffalo (1995)
21| F | Asham, Arron | $1,000,000 | UFA 2014| New York Rangers/NHL | R3 #71 Montreal (1996)
22| D | Staal, Marc (LTIR) | $3,975,000 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #12 NYR (2005)
23| F| Dorsett, Derek (LTIR) | $1,633,333 | UFA 2015| New York Rangers/NHL| R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006)
24| F | Nash, Rick (NMC) | $7,800,000 | UFA 2019| New York Rangers/NHL | R1 #1 Columbus (2002)
25| F | Richards, Brad (NMC) | $6,666,667 | UFA 2020 |New York Rangers/NHL| R3 #64 Tampa Bay (1998)[/table]

Assigned to AHL/ECHL/Europe (25)
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
26| D | Niemi, Jyri (ELC) | $700,000*| RFA 2013| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL| R3 #72 NYI (2008)
27| F | Ferriero, Benn | $700,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #196 Phoenix (2006)
28| D | Pyett, Logan | $600,000| RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #212 Detroit (2006)
29| F | Palmieri, Nick | $577,500 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL | R3 #79 New Jersey Devils (2007)
30| F | Mashinter, Brandon | $550,000 | RFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
31| D | Collins, Sean | $600,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
32| F | Segal, Brandon| $550,000 | UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #102 Nashville (2002)
33| D| Vernace, Mike | $525,000| UFA 2013| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R7 #201 San Jose (2004)
34| F | Kreider, Chris (ELC)| $1,325,000* | RFA 2014|Connecticut Whale/AHL | R1 #19 NYR (2009)
35| F | Jean, Kyle (ELC)| $925,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
36| F | Bourque, Ryan (ELC) | $900,000* | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R3 #80 NYR (2009)
37| G | Missiaen, Jason (ELC) | $750,000* |RFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL|Undrafted
38| G | Stajcer, Scott (ELC)| $700,000* | RFA 2014| Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL|R5 #140 NYR (2009)
39| F | Wilson, Jason (ELC)| $588,333 | RFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #130 NYR (2010)
40| D | McIlrath, Dylan (ELC)| $1,295,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #10 NYR (2010)
41| F | Fast(h), Jesper (ELC)| $900,000* |RFA 2015|Connecticut Whale/AHL| R6 #157 NYR (2010)
42| D | Bickel, Stu| $750,000| UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted
43| F | Newbury, Kris | $600,000 |UFA 2014 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R5 #139 San Jose (2002)
44| F | Haley, Micheal| $600,000 | UFA 2014| Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
45| F | Miller, J.T. (ELC)| $1,244,167* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R1 #15 NYR (2011)
46| F | Thomas, Christian (ELC)| $970,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| R2 #40 NYR (2010)
47| F | Yogan, Andrew (ELC)| $800,000 | RFA 2015 | Connecticut Whale/AHL| R4 #100 NYR (2010)
48| F | Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) | $760,000* |RFA 2015| Loaned to Skellefteå AIK/SEL| R2 #57 PHX (2010)
49| F | Hrivik, Marek (ELC)| $685,000* | RFA 2015 |Connecticut Whale/AHL| Undrafted
50| G | Talbot, Cameron | $562,600 | UFA 2015| Connecticut Whale/AHL | Undrafted[/table]

CONTRACTED PLAYERS THAT DO NOT COUNT against 50 contract limit in 2013
[table="head;width=4200]Nr |Pos| Player| Caphit| Status| Team| Drafted
+| D | Allen, Connor (ELC)| $1,775,000*| RFA 2016|Connecticut Whale/AHL?|undrafted
+| D | Hughes, Tommy (ELC)| $NA*| RFA 2015??|London Knights/OHL|undrafted
+| F | Nicholls, J. (ELC)| $709,167 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Saskatoon Blades/WHL |R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010)
+| F | St. Croix, M. (ELC S)| $665,000 | RFA 2016| Juniors - Edmonton Oil Kings/WHL |R4 #106 NYR (2011)
[/table]

Players still unsigned but with rights retained by NYR
[table="head;width=2500]Pos| Player|Team| Drafted
D |Pashnin, Mikhail| HC Lokomotiv Yaroslavl/KHL |R7 #200 NYR (2009)
F |Fogarty, Steven| Notre Dame Fighting Irish/CCHA| R3 #72 NYR (2011)
F |McColgan, Shane| Saskatoon Blades/WHL | R5 #134 NYR (2011)
D |Noreau, Samuel | Baie-Comeau Drakkar/LHJMQ |R5 #136 NYR(2011)
D |Čerešňák, Peter| Peterborough Petes/OHL| R6 #172 NYR (2011)
D |Skjei, Brady | Minnesota Golden Gophers/WCHA |R1 #28 NYR (2012)
F |Nieves, Cristoval | Michigan Wolverines/CCHA| R2 #59 NYR (2012)
D |Andersson, Calle| Malmö /HA | R4 #119 NYR (2012)
F |Spelling, Thomas| Oskarshamn/HA | R5 #142 NYR(2012)[/table]

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract
LTIR - denotes player placed on Long time injury reserve

NYR Draft picks in 2013
  • 3rd round Nashville (for NYR 3rd round pick 2012)
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 3rd round Columbus (in Nash trade 2012, conditional - that NYR do not go to SC finals in 2013)
  • 4th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR
  • 6th round Columbus (for Marian Gaborik)

  • NO 1st rounder (traded to Columbus for Rick Nash... 2012)
  • NO 2nd rounder (traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013)
  • NO 5th rounder (traded to Nashville for Nashville 5th 2012 - chose Tomas Spelling at #142)
  • NO 7th rounder (traded to Minnesota along with Eric "Crusher" Christensen for Casey Wellman 2012)
NYR Draft picks in 2014
  • 1st round NYR
  • 3rd round NYR
  • 4th round NYR
  • 5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
  • 5th round NYR
  • 6th round NYR

  • Eventually NO 2nd rounder NYR (conditionally traded to San Jose for Ryan Clowe in 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR or NYR get to ECF in 2013 - then San Jose gets the pick. It will be the Rangers' 5th-round pick in 2014 if neither condition is met.)
  • Eventually NO 7th rounder (conditionally traded to San Jose along with Tommy "horror-movie" Grant for Brandon Mashinter 2013 - condition being if he resigns with NYR then San Jose gets the pick)
 
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Our D with Moore and Staal looks nice.

Staal-Del Zotto
McDonagh-Girardi
Moore-Stralman

Easily a contender for best defense in the league. Especially if Moore becomes the two-way #3 defenseman he's projected to be.
 
Am I the only one that thinks our new roster resembles last years roster a ton now?

Its as if Sather noticed the problems with the Nash trade and restructured it to do it over again. In turn, were back with a similar roster and wasted a ton of draft picks in the process
 
Next year??

Something like this?

Asham is replaced by Haley
Pyatt is dealt in the offseason
Richards and Boyle need to rebound in a big way. Boyle is playing for his next contract...
McIllraith as a midseason callup to stay, likely replacing Strålman
Who is going to score???
Miller & Kreider?? Where do they fit in all of this?
This opens up lots of discussions and possibilities. And flaming discussions.
Does Sather have any idea what he is doing here???
Looks weird IMO

FORWARDS
Carl Hagelin ($2.000m) / Derek Stepan ($3.000m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.000m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
Mats Zuccarello ($1.500m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Jesper Fasth ($0.900m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Oscar Lindberg ($0.760m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Micheal Haley ($0.600m) / Darroll Powe ($1.067m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.200m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m) / John Moore ($0.965m)
Stu Bickel or VET UFA D($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $63,741,667
BONUSES: $200,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $758,333
 
When we're healthy.

Carl Hagelin - Derek Stepan - Rick Nash
Ryane Clowe - Brad Richards - Ryan Callahan
Mats Zuccerello - Derek Brassard - Chris Kreider
Derek Dorsett - Brian Boyle - Darroll Powe

Ryan McDonagh - Dan Girardi
Marc Staal - Michael Del Zotto
Anton Stralman - John Moore
 
Khris Creider said:
When we're healthy.

Carl Hagelin - Derek Stepan - Rick Nash
Ryane Clowe - Brad Richards - Ryan Callahan
Mats Zuccerello - Derek Brassard - Chris Kreider
Derek Dorsett - Brian Boyle - Darroll Powe

Ryan McDonagh - Dan Girardi
Marc Staal - Michael Del Zotto
Anton Stralman - John Moore
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I think Miller and Kreider are going to stay in CT to develop. Training camp they will earn spots

I have a feeling Torts will put Brassard on the wing but I hope its the below

Clowe, Stepan, Nash
Zuccarello, Richards, Callahan
Hagelin, Brassard, Dorsett
Powe, Boyle, Pyatt/Asham
 
Khris Creider said:
When we're healthy.

Carl Hagelin - Derek Stepan - Rick Nash
Ryane Clowe - Brad Richards - Ryan Callahan
Mats Zuccerello - Derek Brassard - Chris Kreider
Derek Dorsett - Brian Boyle - Darroll Powe

Ryan McDonagh - Dan Girardi
Marc Staal - Michael Del Zotto
Anton Stralman - John Moore
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Like it...... Possibly stick Dylan in Stralmans spot next season...
 
As far as forward lines here on out this is what I would like to see.

Nash-Stepan-Hagelin
Kreider-Richards-Zuke
Clowe-Brassard-Callahan
Powe-Boyle-Pyatt/Asham (depending on who we are playing against)
 
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