Speculation: Lindholm seeking 8 years, north of 6M per

[ManUtdTobbe]

Lindholm > Ekblad, if his demands are under $7m then it's a no brainer, personally i'd pay up to 8x8 for him with no hesitation.

 

[Street Hawk]

That would be logical if were a 6 year deal like Jones or Rielly. On an 8 year deal the team is buying two extra UFA years of a top-pairing D in his prime. Considering that, his ask is a bargain, miles from "greedy".

Weird part is that dmen have historically been unpaid compared to forwards. MacKinnon, barkov, Forsberg, all get around $6 million and no one bats and eye. Lindholm asks for that much and it's deemed greedy.

I think compared to Reilly, Jones, and Hamilton, he is better than all 3 and thus deserving of getting in the $6 million per range.

If it's cause the ducks are rift up against the cap, they should work on moving stoner or someone else out.

Rackell is using Rask of Carolina at $4 million per as his comparable.

Plus you pay for potential, in terms of what you expect them to perform at over the term of the new deal. Use what they have done so far as your gage of whether they can hit that level. The better they have fared the more common.fort you have that they will perform to that level over the term of the contract.

 

[JetsHomer]

I think Lindholm is better than Ekblad right now. He was top 3 in shot suppressing and was unreal in playoffs. Who knows about the future.

Watching then I'm reminded of prime Suter vs prime Weber, they even have similar playstyles to those guys. I'm of the belief that Suter was better, I know most don't agree with that though

 

[Beerz]

I'd take Risto @ 8 years x 6.5

Ducks should be all over this

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Weird part is that dmen have historically been unpaid compared to forwards. MacKinnon, barkov, Forsberg, all get around $6 million and no one bats and eye. Lindholm asks for that much and it's deemed greedy.

I think compared to Reilly, Jones, and Hamilton, he is better than all 3 and thus deserving of getting in the $6 million per range.

If it's cause the ducks are rift up against the cap, they should work on moving stoner or someone else out.

Rackell is using Rask of Carolina at $4 million per as his comparable.

Plus you pay for potential, in terms of what you expect them to perform at over the term of the new deal. Use what they have done so far as your gage of whether they can hit that level. The better they have fared the more common.fort you have that they will perform to that level over the term of the contract.

I 100% thought I would see Anaheim players saying "open the cheque book" when talking about Lindholm.

Any time he was brought up in the trade forum, he was called:
A beast!
A true #1D!
Borderline Elite!

Now that it's time to pay him, $6.5+ is crazy talk!!!!

I think the dude is a beast and, if we traded for him, would not blink an eye if he was close to (or above) the 7 mark.

 

[dracom]

I 100% thought I would see Anaheim players saying "open the cheque book" when talking about Lindholm.

Any time he was brought up in the trade forum, he was called:
A beast!
A true #1D!
Borderline Elite!

Now that it's time to pay him, $6.5+ is crazy talk!!!!

I think the dude is a beast and, if we traded for him, would not blink an eye if he was close to (or above) the 7 mark.

Here's the thing, it's mostly non Ducks fan saying he's a #1 D. Ducks fans have been saying he could become one.

 

[Stephen Gionta]

8 years at 6.5 million per seems very fair.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Here's the thing, it's mostly non Ducks fan saying he's a #1 D. Ducks fans have been saying he could become one.

Nah. There's been plenty of instances where "Lindholm is a clear level about Trouba." and "Lindholm is already what Trouba aspires to be. A true #1D!"

I've seen it a lot since the Trouba stuff first started months ago.

Again, no knock on Lindholm. I think the dude is a beast and should get some serious coin soon.

 

[Ducks Nation*]

Lindholm is clearly better than Trouba it doesn't take a rocket science to see why.

 

[dracom]

Nah. There's been plenty of instances where "Lindholm is a clear level about Trouba." and "Lindholm is already what Trouba aspires to be. A true #1D!"

I've seen it a lot since the Trouba stuff first started months ago.

Again, no knock on Lindholm. I think the dude is a beast and should get some serious coin soon.

Well he is better than Trouba, most people would agree on that I think. That doesn't mean he's a #1D. And unless you can find a Ducks fan saying Lindholm is a already a #1 D, I'm going to keep saying Ducks fans don't think he is one right now, but easily could be.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Lindholm is clearly better than Trouba it doesn't take a rocket science to see why.

But can they tell why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Well he is better than Trouba, most people would agree on that I think. That doesn't mean he's a #1D. And unless you can find a Ducks fan saying Lindholm is a already a #1 D, I'm going to keep saying Ducks fans don't think he is one right now, but easily could be.

Yeah I am not trying to start a fight or anything, it's just that I have seen his tires constantly pumped (rightfully so) and just thought it was funny that (now that it's time to pay him) people are starting to pump the brakes on his value.

 

[TripleDekeGloveSide]

Theres definitely an argument either way between Lindholm and Ekblad and its determined by what is your teams need.

If you need a well-rounded, hard hitting PMD with a nose for the goal you chose Ekblad. If you want a game-controlling defense force with an amazing first pass and skating/fitness that is top notch you chose Lindholm. This doesnt mean their counterpart doesnt have moments of the other strengths, Im just saying both of these players are very good defenseman with slightly different preferred tools. They own every tool in the tool box, its just what tools the use more than others is what separates them.

And for number and term, I dont want the Ducks betting on what Lindholm can become like the Panthers bet on Ekblad. 6.45 x 8 with signing bonuses is my call as I sit at my desk.

 

[Duck Off]

I 100% thought I would see Anaheim players saying "open the cheque book" when talking about Lindholm.

Any time he was brought up in the trade forum, he was called:
A beast!
A true #1D!
Borderline Elite!

Now that it's time to pay him, $6.5+ is crazy talk!!!!

I think the dude is a beast and, if we traded for him, would not blink an eye if he was close to (or above) the 7 mark.

sounds like a pretty big exaggeration to me. Most Duck fans don't rate him near as high as many others on the board. Primarily because there's few that value advanced stats as much as some other fan bases do.

I have no doubt that most were saying he's better than Trouba and that we wouldn't trade him for Trouba. However "a true #1D" and "borderline elite"? Maybe a select few (probably the Duck fans from Sweden) but very few. Most Duck fans would say that he's shown #1 potential and has played like one before. He did play pretty elite in the playoffs, but one playoff series doesn't make you a #1 defenseman.

 

[bumblebeeman]

So if Trouba were to agree to a 6 year x 4 million $ contract to play for the ducks would that make it worthwhile for them to trade Lindholm for him? To save 2 or 2.5 million a year in cap space? (But also lose some ufa years)

 

[GoJetsGo55]

So if Trouba were to agree to a 6 year x 4 million $ contract to play for the ducks would that make it worthwhile for them to trade Lindholm for him? To save 2 or 2.5 million a year in cap space? (But also lose some ufa years)

Add in a 1st and a 2nd MAYBE!

 

[kxx]

Heard that Ducks are stacked at RHD and don't even need Trouba.

This has deflated my already outlandish hopes the Jets would somehow get Lindholm for Trouba+(something reaosnable not Laine!)

Thought they could but now I see why Ducks fans think this is asinine just like how people suggesting trading forwards to the Jets for Trouba is asinine.

I suspect Lindholm will chill in Sweden for a bit until they figure this out. I don't think theres as much, if any, bad blood in Anaheim/ Lindholm as it seems like there is in Winnipeg/ Trouba so wouldn't be surprised to see Lindholm sign.

Once something like this happens everyone goes haywire - happened with Jets except turned out to be true lol ****. Usually isn't the case though.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Heard that Ducks are stacked at RHD and don't even need Trouba.

This has deflated my already outlandish hopes the Jets would somehow get Lindholm for Trouba+(something reaosnable not Laine!)

Thought they could but now I see why Ducks fans think this is asinine just like how people suggesting trading forwards to the Jets for Trouba is asinine.

I suspect Lindholm will chill in Sweden for a bit until they figure this out. I don't think theres as much, if any, bad blood in Anaheim/ Lindholm as it seems like there is in Winnipeg/ Trouba so wouldn't be surprised to see Lindholm sign.

Once something like this happens everyone goes haywire - happened with Jets except turned out to be true lol ****. Usually isn't the case though.

Why don't they just move Trouba to....the.....le...ft.......darn

 

[KidLine93]

BM is offering a deal close to Reilly and Jones. Those aren't lowball offers. Lindholm or his agent is just being greedy.

if lindholm is actually as good as Ducks fans pump him up to be then yes that is a low ball offer

 

[Sojourn]

I 100% thought I would see Anaheim players saying "open the cheque book" when talking about Lindholm.

Any time he was brought up in the trade forum, he was called:
A beast!
A true #1D!
Borderline Elite!

Now that it's time to pay him, $6.5+ is crazy talk!!!!

I think the dude is a beast and, if we traded for him, would not blink an eye if he was close to (or above) the 7 mark.

You might be hearing that, but not from a lot of Anaheim fans, which makes your point pretty irrelevant.

 

[Sojourn]

if lindholm is actually as good as Ducks fans pump him up to be then yes that is a low ball offer

Show me all this pumping being done by Anaheim fans. Seriously. I keep seeing people suggesting Anaheim fans are hyping him up, but in actuality, from what I've actually seen? It's Anaheim fans trying to be more realistic about him. We're the ones saying he isn't a current #1.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Show me all this pumping being done by Anaheim fans. Seriously. I keep seeing people suggesting Anaheim fans are hyping him up, but in actuality, from what I've actually seen? It's Anaheim fans trying to be more realistic about him. We're the ones saying he isn't a current #1.

Its cause we think he is better then most players in his age group or comparable... so clearly we are hyping him up

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Here's the thing, it's mostly non Ducks fan saying he's a #1 D. Ducks fans have been saying he could become one.

Do you not think Lindholm is worth 6M over 8 years? Because earlier you were arguing that the was more valuable than Gaudreau, who is objectively worth like 7.5+ on the same deal.

 

[Sojourn]

Its cause we think he is better then most players in his age group or comparable... so clearly we are hyping him up

Yeah, well, they aren't #1's either.

 

[Ducksgo*]

This is just dumb. Sign em up already wtf is going on Murray