Post-Game Talk: Lightning VI + Rangers Appreciation Thread

[Machinehead]

Keep Panarin.

This team needs less skill like Greg McKegg needs to get less attractive.

@DanielBrassard made a good point. This team needs to get better at hockey this summer. Period. If you're on some other nebulous bullshit, you're on the wrong track.

Just stop sabotaging his line. He and Strome were toothpaste and orange juice and two coaches gaslit themselves into thinking it was peanut butter and jelly.

 

[Richard Banger]

You don’t see an issue with having multiple top picks thrown to the wind as if they were gum wrappers ? Which the benching will most likely be the finishing touches on Kakko out the door.

No it will not. Kakko is a humble person. He’s going to work hard this off-season and come back stronger and better. Same with Laf same with Chytil. This wasn’t just a run. This was the start of the marathon. Enough with this doom and gloom shit. This team will continue to get better. This core will win a cup.

 

[Brutananadilewski]

I'm crying because I have no life outside of watching playoff hockey. That actually not totally true ...maybe.

Life is good.

I euthanized my cat on Thursday, I got into a shouting match with my supervisor on Friday, Rangers season ended yesterday, and I started Sunday with the worst case of diarrhea.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Life is good.

I euthanized my cat on Thursday, I got into a shouting match with my supervisor on Friday, Rangers season ended yesterday, and I started Sunday with the worst case of diarrhea.

Nowhere to go but up! (sorry about kitty)

 

[DanielBrassard]

Keep Panarin.

This team needs less skill like Greg McKegg needs to get less attractive.

@DanielBrassard made a good point. This team needs to get better at hockey this summer. Period. If you're on some other nebulous bullshit, you're on the wrong track.

Just stop sabotaging his line. He and Strome were toothpaste and orange juice and two coaches gaslit themselves into thinking it was peanut butter and jelly.

Thanks for the shout out, but its just true. You look at the other top teams in the league and to me they are just way ahead of us in the fundamentals of the game, stick handling, skating, passing, body positioning on and on. The Rangers had zero answer all playoffs against every team they played when the puck was below their goal line. Pucks get in deep and it takes forever to get out. They just don't play a crisp brand of hockey. If we're honest, they should have lost to Pittsburgh, and then they get trounced by Tampa who didn't even have Point. It's hard to win when you are a 40 percent expected goal team and it's amazing they got as far as they did, thanks to Igor and some timely PP goals.

They need to fix 5v5, it is essential.

 

[huerter]

I had blocked it from my brain but Carlo and Whit are going back and forth about how Laf should get sussied. They're not wrong. That's gonna be annoying.

 

[GlasgowNewYorkRanger]

the team and young guys, definitely not us we already have experienced deep soul stabbing pain.
BUT WE GO AGAIN

Indeed, as always!

Let's hope Mr. Christmas gets his finger out and has a decidedly better off season than the last one.

 

[Boris Zubov]

Thanks for the shout out, but its just true. You look at the other top teams in the league and to me they are just way ahead of us in the fundamentals of the game, stick handling, skating, passing, body positioning on and on. The Rangers had zero answer all playoffs against every team they played when the puck was below their goal line. Pucks get in deep and it takes forever to get out. They just don't play a crisp brand of hockey. If we're honest, they should have lost to Pittsburgh, and then they get trounced by Tampa who didn't even have Point. It's hard to win when you are a 40 percent expected goal team and it's amazing they got as far as they did, thanks to Igor and some timely PP goals.

I keep banging the drum for a competent skills coach, a skating coach & an entirely new player development staff.

Plus we need a matchup line with a physical 3C who can win draws, kill penalties & take the heat off Zib.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

What a joke. Gallant wasn't the one getting owned all series and pushed around like two big bullies playing keep away from some young kid. The Lightning were better when they needed to be. They were better at every phase of the game and they deserved to win.

They were better and that's why they won. Gallant had nothing to do with the Rangers losing.

Gallant sat a healthy Kakko to play a clearly injured and inefective Strome for 2 periods not only breaking up the Rangers best possession line but making it so they couldn't be reunited in a game where the Rangers desperately needed possession. It was terrible game management, which has always been the rap on Gallant.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Fox, Mika, Laf

 

[Boris Zubov]

Gallant sat a healthy Kakko to play a clearly injured and inefective Strome for 2 periods not only breaking up the Rangers best possession line but making it so they couldn't be reunited in a game where the Rangers desperately needed possession. It was terrible game management, which has always been the rap on Gallant.

Might be time to swap the pic in your avatar. I say this as someone who is a Gallant fan, but he exposed a few warts on himself during this run.

 

[Machinehead]

Thanks for the shout out, but its just true. You look at the other top teams in the league and to me they are just way ahead of us in the fundamentals of the game, stick handling, skating, passing, body positioning on and on. The Rangers had zero answer all playoffs against every team they played when the puck was below their goal line. Pucks get in deep and it takes forever to get out. They just don't play a crisp brand of hockey. If we're honest, they should have lost to Pittsburgh, and then they get trounced by Tampa who didn't even have Point. It's hard to win when you are a 40 percent expected goal team and it's amazing they got as far as they did, thanks to Igor and some timely PP goals.

And while we continue to bring in quality players, I think we need to identify and address why the fundamentals never seem to come here.

You've been critical of the kids and like, sure maybe one of them ends up not being any good but both of them? Chytil still has annoying habits too. Why don't they skate any better than when they came up?

And even if you think they just aren't any good, it happens to veterans too. Panarin is worse than when he came here in a few aspects of the game.

I think there's not enough real accountability and too much "f*** you for being 21" accountability. Gallant and Quinn had that in common.

Every coach loves bad players, wants nebulous nonsense, and gets mad for no reason, that I can accept, but at least other teams look like they practice.

Isn't Gallant notorious for being light on practice? There's guys on this team I would have practicing twice a day, Panarin at the top of the list.

And it's not just the coach, we have improvements to make, like you said, but I wanna know why we're so bad at some things.

 

[Rongomania]

He said he wouldn’t address it now regarding the lineup and shot Vince down twice, said it wasn’t the time or place to discuss it now

Oh gawd f*ck that guy. Bench the kid before you even give him 3 more minutes of ice time or god forbid try him on the PP. Laf got chance after chance and honestly didn't do dick longer than Kakko went cold for.

I'm done crying about this. Love ya guys. Next season is gonna be 1,000,000x more fun because of how great this team is and is going to be for a long time.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Couldn’t have scripted a more fitting end.

Hunt taking shifts on the 2nd line.
Kreider complete ghost in every single facet of the game.
Another Toronto review against.

Dryden Hunt. What an add! Most memorable moment was pushing the fattest player in the league on top of the head of the NYR Hart candidate.

When he came out on the Panarin-Copp line in the 3rd period I admit it, I started cracking up. What great comedy. No more fitting way to end this season.

And that’s putting aside the moronic decision to start Strome. Ryan Strome was a sack of shit in the playoffs with 2 legs but yea, let’s send him out there with one.

Absolute galaxy brain decision making Gerard.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

Gallant is going nowhere. 110 points, 10 playoff wins, Jack Adams finalist.

He was exposed big time in this series. Being a players coach with zero tactical ability has its limits and this was it.

 

[Boris Zubov]

He was exposed big time in this series. Being a players coach with zero tactical ability has its limits and this was it.

Not his finest moments, thats for sure.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

He was exposed big time in this series. Being a players coach with zero tactical ability has its limits and this was it.

I still like Gallant. He's a good coach and he doesn't have zero tactical ability. The roster was hurt and he had limited options. We also don't know why Kakko wasn't in the game. He coached expansion Vegas to the SCF and he had a great season this year. Cooper may be the better coach but a few years ago people were crying for him to be fired when they were swept by Columbus.

 

[17futurecap]

The last time Dryden Hunt dressed was May 7th, and he draws back in of all nights tonight, you can't even make that shit up.

 

[DanielBrassard]

And while we continue to bring in quality players, I think we need to identify and address why the fundamentals never seem to come here.

You've been critical of the kids and like, sure maybe one of them ends up not being any good but both of them? Chytil still has annoying habits too. Why don't they skate any better than when they came up?

And even if you think they just aren't any good, it happens to veterans too. Panarin is worse than when he came here in a few aspects of the game.

I think there's not enough real accountability and too much "f*** you for being 21" accountability. Gallant and Quinn had that in common.

Every coach loves bad players, wants nebulous nonsense, and gets mad for no reason, that I can accept, but at least other teams look like they practice.

Isn't Gallant notorious for being light on practice? There's guys on this team I would have practicing twice a day, Panarin at the top of the list.

And it's not just the coach, we have improvements to make, like you said, but I wanna know why we're so bad at some things.

I don't disagree with most of what you are saying here. I have been critical of the kids without a doubt, but that doesn't mean there isn't also something fundamentally broken about the Rangers developmental process as well.

When you look at the Rangers roster there's really no rational reason for them to struggle in the areas they do but every single year the story ends up the same. And it's permeated how many different coaching staffs now? There's something wrong with how they view the game as an organization I think. Not sure exactly what that is but if they don't adjust their mindset we are going to get an instant replay of the past 15 years all over again.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

I still like Gallant. He's a good coach and he doesn't have zero tactical ability. The roster was hurt and he had limited options. We also don't know why Kakko wasn't in the game. He coached expansion Vegas to the SCF and he had a great season this year. Cooper may be the better coach but a few years ago people were crying for him to be fired when they were swept by Columbus.

All I know is, Cooper decisively reacted after G1&2. Took away the NYR speed with the neutral zone and blue line play. Taught his team how to play a greasy game with plenty of obstruction. Kept a hanger in the NZ/far blue line when Fox was on the ice to mitigate his involvement in the offensive zone.

Gallant inserted Rooney and Hunt into the lineup.

 

[17futurecap]

Igor should have given up like 5 goals at this point, but this was pathetic from Trouba.

 

[Chaels Arms]

One even strength goal over the last four games.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

All I know is, Cooper decisively reacted after G1&2. Took away the NYR speed with the neutral zone and blue line play. Taught his team how to play a greasy game with plenty of obstruction. Kept a hanger in the NZ/far blue line when Fox was on the ice to mitigate his involvement in the offensive zone.

Gallant inserted Rooney and Hunt into the lineup.

Cooper also had a team that had 9 days off and maybe some rust that factored into the Rangers winning games 1 and 2. I think as the series progressed we showed fatigue and had injuries, and that 9 days off then worked to their advantage. They also have a ton more experience and depth. Rooney played because of injuries and Hunt played because of something that happened with Kakko apparently. Gallant didn't have many options.

 

[DanielBrassard]

All I know is, Cooper decisively reacted after G1&2. Took away the NYR speed with the neutral zone and blue line play. Taught his team how to play a greasy game with plenty of obstruction. Kept a hanger in the NZ/far blue line when Fox was on the ice to mitigate his involvement in the offensive zone.

Gallant inserted Rooney and Hunt into the lineup.

Seemed like the Rangers gameplan was the same as they had against the Hurricanes, even though Tampa didn't really play anything like them. Against the Hurricanes the Rangers were able to take advantage of their aggressive puck pursuit and volume shooting strategy and turn them into odd-man rushes. Plus for whatever reason they had more success off the cycle when they did get the puck in the offensive zone. Tampa completely neutered the Rangers cycle game. It was hard to watch.

 

[DanielBrassard]

8 Million dollars for a defenseman who can't pivot.