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[Nick Lang]

No new information because it’s made up.

However, not unrealistic with concerns about Tkachuk. Canucks would need to retain or take back salary. Panthers currently have around 2.5m in cap space and that’s expected to grow to around 3.5m by the deadline. Panthers could LTIR Tkachuk to create space, however.

Panthers don’t have any picks this season but do in 2026. Their prospect pool is pretty empty too.

Really we should be retaining on Boeser as much as possible and trade him for the best assets we can get. Use our cap space as a tool and increase that return. Any team will do and Tkachuk being out only helps in that it increases demand. If not Florida then perhaps to a team that is trying to keep pace with Florida if they make another trade. Ottawa may be a good partner if they decide to go for it.

 

[theguardianII]

I swear if Allvin and Co let Boeser walk without recouping any valuable assets, then Allvin should be fired on the spot. Canucks don't have enough in their cupboards to just let assets go without without getting any value back via trade. Being a borderline playoff team and having this mentality is very Benning-esque.

He is building up that cap space for a reason no doubt.
He might trade for expensive players.
He will trade away draft picks and prospects because they can't help the team today.
Another demonstration of "do anything to keep Hughes here", why I don't know? This isn't the year they have to worry about.

Boeser's asset return will be less than fan favorite expect.
He is a FA so a rental and not really in Rantenen's class.
They couldn't trade him at all 2 years ago and they tried, even let his agent try.

Allvin getting Benningish? I think that ship has sailed. Some of his deals are just crazy. That OEL buyout was a mind bender and will hurt for years yet. They paid OEL to play for Florida and win a cup and now with TO. On both teams he has been a key player.
Pettersson,s deal eclipses Eriksson's by double. How many years did it take for EVERYONE to realize Eriksson wasn't rebounding? One! EP will have one and a half! And people are saying just give him more time just in case he does rebound? The myriad of manufactured excuses is right into fantasy land. A bad summer, that was last year, a knee injury that doesn't require intervention or cause any other issues, an emotional conflict with a STUD player, too much social media pressure, too much fan pressure, not old enough, .... c'mon we idiot fans will bite on something else too, maybe he is unhappy because his pet gerbil died?

Boeser wants to go, that should be obvious to all. Allvin can keep him, have his marketing media leak that they were close and then blame him for a poor return.
Allvin will trade away the farm to end up wasting 8 days after the season ends and feel good about it.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Florida traded for and signed all of Bennett, Reinhart, Verhaeghe, Tkachuk, Rodriguez, Tarasenko, Mikkola, OEL, Kulikov, Bobrovsky, Stolarz, Lomberg, Luuosterainen, Montour, Forsling, Cousins, Stenlund etc.

The only drafted players they had were Barkov, Ekblad, and Lindell (Kulikov was an OG draft pick but he was signed in FA).

Vegas’s entire team is comprised of UFA signings and acquired players.

You can definitely build a cup contending team without having to go scorched earth if you make the right trades and signings. Florida bet on Bennett, Mikkola, Reinhart, Verhaeghe, Forsling, and Montour becoming good contributing players. These were all once castoffs and deemed expendable by their prior teams. We need to make similar moves.

 

[Bobby9]

Hughes for Dahlin +?

Depends on who you think has the potential to be a #1D. Dahlin is to old.

I personally would do:

Hughes retained
Boeser

For

Nikishin
Jarvis
Rantanen

And then flip rantanen at the TDL for a prospect and a pick. Maybe Winnipeg? They have Yager or that other prospect that is 18 but looks 30. Edit: Barlow

Something similar to that package.

A back end of :

Nikishin, DPetey, Willander, Hronek and possibly Mancini with most of them being under 21 is a brighter future

 

[LemonSauceD]

Mercer, Cozens, Sillinger, Kyrou, Hayton, Batherson, Crouse, Maccelli, etc should all be the types of players we should be targeting

 

[Bobby9]

Florida traded for and signed all of Bennett, Reinhart, Verhaeghe, Tkachuk, Rodriguez, Tarasenko, Mikkola, OEL, Kulikov, Bobrovsky, Stolarz, Lomberg, Luuosterainen, Montour, Forsling, Cousins, Stenlund etc.

The only drafted players they had were Barkov, Ekblad, and Lindell (Kulikov was an OG draft pick but he was signed in FA).

Vegas’s entire team is comprised of UFA signings and acquired players.

You can definitely build a cup contending team without having to go scorched earth if you make the right trades and signings. Florida bet on Bennett, Mikkola, Reinhart, Verhaeghe, Forsling, and Montour becoming good contributing players. These were all once castoffs and deemed expendable by their prior teams. We need to make similar moves.

Who would be our Barkov to build around and who would be our Hub to trade for Matty T?

 

[Fatass]

Depends on who you think has the potential to be a #1D. Dahlin is to old.

I personally would do:

Hughes retained
Boeser

For

Nikishin
Jarvis
Rantanen

And then flip rantanen at the TDL for a prospect and a pick. Maybe Winnipeg? They have Yager or that other prospect that is 18 but looks 30. Edit: Barlow

Something similar to that package.

Dahlin too old? He’s the same draft class as Hughes.

 

[Bobby9]

Dahlin too old? He’s the same draft class as Hughes.

Yes. You’re essentially abandoning this cores players and age group.

 

[Fatass]

Yes. You’re essentially abandoning this cores players and age group.

With Boeser soon to be gone and Demko too, who from the previous core is left other than Hughes and Pettersson?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Not going to happen but I’d want want Lundell from the Panthers somehow.

 

[Bobby9]

With Boeser soon to be gone and Demko too, who from the previous core is left other than Hughes and Pettersson?

Just those 2.

Keeping Hughes on this team and watching him walk is like winning the lottery but never cashing it in.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Just those 2.

Keeping Hughes on this team and watching him walk is like winning the lottery but never cashing it in.

i highly doubt theyre gonna let Hughes walk. and theyll probably learn quickly whether or not he intends to stay well before the 2027 deadline.

 

[Fatass]

Not going to happen but I’d want want Lundell from the Panthers somehow.

Panthers are likely to move Bennet aren’t they? Boeser for Bennet? Bad idea?

 

[Bobby9]

i highly doubt theyre gonna let Hughes walk. and theyll probably learn quickly whether or not he intends to stay well before the 2027 deadline.

Do you really want to watch Hughes on the Canucks if they’re a mid team who has no chance of winning?

Bad for the team and the player.

 

[Fatass]

i highly doubt theyre gonna let Hughes walk. and theyll probably learn quickly whether or not he intends to stay well before the 2027 deadline.

Does the potential return for Hughes diminish as time clicks closer to his UFA year?

 

[VanillaCoke]

Lundell & Bennett really rather unlikely but I'd be interested in Luostarinen +

 

[andora]

For all the boeser trade stuff

Objectively flip to the other teams perspective and look at what he is and then what you would spend

While he typically doesnt hurt you he as dependant a winger as you can get when supplying offense

What do you pay for that? You can negate any premium based on him not able to drive offensive play on his own like some Wingers can so then what do you end up with and all this talk about getting assets to Parlay into other players (which basically is only draft picks) are you getting a first round pick? Or would you pay a first round pick Plus for him

Lundell & Bennett really rather unlikely but I'd be interested in Luostarinen +

Very underrated player that has high potential to turn into something more in the right scenario

 

[Vector]

 

[B-rock]

Does the potential return for Hughes diminish as time clicks closer to his UFA year?

I think to an extent yeah it could, but at the same time teams would be fighting to get access to the best offensive dman in the nhl, so you could easily get into bidding wars.

Saying that, I’d want no part of trading him. I feel optimistic that Alvin can figure something out provided he’s learning from his mistakes and is willing to make the hard choices earlier rather than after the fact.

 

[Fatass]

I think to an extent yeah it could, but at the same time teams would be fighting to get access to the best offensive dman in the nhl, so you could easily get into bidding wars.

Saying that, I’d want no part of trading him. I feel optimistic that Alvin can figure something out provided he’s learning from his mistakes and is willing to make the hard choices earlier rather than after the fact.

Hughes is a hockey nerd. He’s likely thinking about the team beyond just this season and what moves make the club better. I wonder if he is thinking about the value of keeping Boeser v trading for futures? How much confidence does he have in Allvin considering the return for Horvat and then Miller?

 

[B-rock]

Hughes is a hockey nerd. He’s likely thinking about the team beyond just this season and what moves make the club better. I wonder if he is thinking about the value of keeping Boeser v trading for futures? How much confidence does he have in Allvin considering the return for Horvat and then Miller?

100%.
I personally think Alvin got good value on those trades. But he does need to pull the trigger on those hard decisions earlier. From the sounds of it, he was looking to trade ep40 before signing him to his deal but balked. If he had made that move we’d be further ahead.

I think though hindsight is always 20/20. There’s always considerations to be made about how a trade will impact the team and the culture of the team. Easy to say they should do, or should have done this after the fact but never so easy in realtime.

 

[Nick Lang]

For all the boeser trade stuff

Objectively flip to the other teams perspective and look at what he is and then what you would spend

While he typically doesnt hurt you he as dependant a winger as you can get when supplying offense

What do you pay for that? You can negate any premium based on him not able to drive offensive play on his own like some Wingers can so then what do you end up with and all this talk about getting assets to Parlay into other players (which basically is only draft picks) are you getting a first round pick? Or would you pay a first round pick Plus for him


Very underrated player that has high potential to turn into something more in the right scenario

As an available top notch goal scorer with pretty good size I think he would be a fairly sought after asset as a playoff rental. If I'm an acquiring team I would probably pony up a first rounder and a prospect of some sort. He's also on a pretty decent expiring contract if we retain or bring back salary with our abundance of cap space for the rest of the season.

He's also a good PP option for a team needing a goal scorer and net front presence. I really hope we're able to convert him into some good pieces. I'm ready to turn the page and hopefully get younger and faster at the same time.

 

[VanillaCoke]

Mercer, Cozens , Sillinger, Kyrou, Hayton, Batherson, Crouse, Maccelli, etc should all be the types of players we should be targeting

 

[andora]

As an available top notch goal scorer with pretty good size I think he would be a fairly sought after asset as a playoff rental. If I'm an acquiring team I would probably pony up a first rounder and a prospect of some sort. He's also on a pretty decent expiring contract if we retain or bring back salary with our abundance of cap space for the rest of the season.

He's also a good PP option for a team needing a goal scorer and net front presence. I really hope we're able to convert him into some good pieces. I'm ready to turn the page and hopefully get younger and faster at the same time.

And that's a very fair way to look at them, I wonder if teams are seeing if he's doing enough to justify that analysis of them and how much they believe he can get to that. We all know he can be all of that. And then with the team showing interest do they have the right fit, I just have a feeling it's a very situational Market forum if the scouting is done correctly

 

[supercanuck]

In a weird sort of way, I wish we were out of the playoffs already. Just tell EP, Demko, Hughes to just sit as long as you need to get 100%. Joshua probably won't be his full self until next season. Evaluate everything based on next season where you can hopefully get your #1 C, #1 D, and #1 G back. Also, you get a nice little consolation prize of a high draft pick.