GDT: Lightning @ Devils - 1:00 PM - MSG, TNT

[theoptimist]

Discuss what?

I don't see anything.

I was making fun of James Nichols. He tweeted the win o' meter graphic and wrote "Discuss ⤵". Confused why he would invite so much anguish to his @mentions.

 

[PizzaAndPucks]

Hughes is playing through what appears to be a shoulder injury where he will likely get surgery in the offseason.

He won’t/can’t take any contact with his upper body. The team obviously knows this but want him to play anyway. I’m guessing the shoulder is “healed” but they worry about a worse injury if he takes major contact.

So it’s a little hard to rag on a guy when he can’t play the way he normally would.

Let's just say we hypothetically are in a playoff spot. It seems like many players are hurt and can somehow sulk through it and be effective. This is like a precursor to him not being able to do that when the intensity is even lower.

 

[njdevils1982]

Nacho cheese Doritos are classic, but Cool Ranch man, what a chip….

yes cool ranch all the way....and some yellow gato and im back in high school

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Chip on the shoulder vibes coming next year.

I’m excited for the exit interviews.

Unless Jack / the players go into the offseason thinking they're an amazing team already they just need a goalie. I wonder what is up with Vanecek right now. I also wonder what kind of stuff got said behind closed doors about the goalies, even to their faces.

 

[Mgd31]

Trade Toffoli, Miller, Smith and Nosek. Shut down Hughes and Meier. Fire Lindy. Consider trading Siegenthaler. Get an upgrade on LD, goalie and bottom six speed and grit this Summer

 

[glenwo2]

I was making fun of James Nichols. He tweeted the win o' meter graphic and wrote "Discuss ⤵". Confused why he would invite so much anguish to his @mentions.

"HFBoards website issues" strikes again apparently.

 

[NjdevilfanJim]

Someone keep me up to date on ruff comments, im on train

Said same thing as last year that NJ fans are passionate and want a winner in regard to fire chants....started to say we have had to deal with a lot I'm going to assume injuries but cut it quick....Then when asked about job security he acknowledged with coaching there is no job security....Said he holds himself accountable for the results on the ice....

 

[Dylan9z9]

You don’t fire Fitz, but he gets next season to fix things and then he is gone.

Not a peep out of him all season on anything was he hurt this year too

 

[Devils Army]

Ironically when a normally combative coach become conciliatory it is because he knows he is done.

Agreed, he answered like a coach that knows his players gave up

 

[glenwo2]

Said same thing as last year that NJ fans are passionate and want a winner in regard to fire chants....started to say we have had to deal with a lot I'm going to assume injuries but cut it quick....Then when asked about job security he acknowledged with coaching there is no job security....Said he holds himself accountable for the results on the ice....

@jkrdevil made a good point, though.

Lindy being conciliatory here instead of defiant means he knows the fat lady has sung in his coaching tenure after this loss.

 

[Dylan9z9]

Agreed, he answered like a coach that knows his players gave up

He should have the balls to resign

 

[Bleedred]

Trade Toffoli, Miller, Smith and Nosek. Shut down Hughes and Meier. Fire Lindy. Consider trading Siegenthaler. Get an upgrade on LD, goalie and bottom six speed and grit this Summer

I don’t think anybody wants any of that crap other than Toffoli.

Smith and Nosek are basically Ryder and Havlat at the 2015 deadline, where no one wanted them.

I could see Miller bringing back a later round pick. Someone may want him, but they may also be turned off by the fact that he’s been a healthy scratch for Smith this year a few too many times lol.

 

[HoliksGhost]

I’m gonna get flamed for saying this but I miss Lou. Team was old when he left and he doesn’t know what a rebuild is but he knew goalies and how to create structure. With how young we are now I know he would be able to get things on track here.

And he fired coaches when he sensed they were losing the team

 

[Devils731]

Let's just say we hypothetically are in a playoff spot. It seems like many players are hurt and can somehow sulk through it and be effective. This is like a precursor to him not being able to do that when the intensity is even lower.

Shoulder injuries get progressively worse and more likely to re-injure until you get surgery.

Jack can’t take contact, isn’t shooting as hard, and can’t control the puck as well.

I wouldn’t say it’s a precursor to him not performing when intensity goes up. It’s just the reality of someone playing through an injury that is radically affecting his game.

Jack had no problem with the intensity and physicality of the playoffs last year.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

He should have the balls to resign

He'd be giving up potentially $1m+ if he did that right? If Fitz wants to let him "retire" to an upstairs position instead of getting canned he should do that. He's probably done coaching in the NHL at this point.

 

[Bleedred]

Said same thing as last year that NJ fans are passionate and want a winner in regard to fire chants....started to say we have had to deal with a lot I'm going to assume injuries but cut it quick....Then when asked about job security he acknowledged with coaching there is no job security....Said he holds himself accountable for the results on the ice....

He’s a class act and I wouldn’t even chant to fire him if I were in the building, even though I think it’s time.

I feel bad when they have to chant it.

Sucks but it’s time.

It wasn’t a total failure, but I don’t see how you can leave him here to start next year under any circumstances.

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

He’s a class act and I wouldn’t even chant to fire him if I were in the building, even though I think it’s time.

I feel bad when they have to chant it.

Sucks but it’s time.

It wasn’t a total failure, but I don’t see how you can leave him here to start next year under any circumstances.

Tough but it's sports, he's had more than enough track than most coaches have had in NJ. Guy would've been fired within 2 years if Lou was around.

 

[JimEIV]

Shoulder injuries get progressively worse and more likely to re-injure until you get surgery.

Jack can’t take contact, isn’t shooting as hard, and can’t control the puck as well.

I wouldn’t say it’s a precursor to him not performing when intensity goes up. It’s just the reality of someone playing through an injury that is radically affecting his game.

Jack had no problem with the intensity and physicality of the playoffs last year.

I tend to think that you are spot on.... we'll see if he has off season surgery.

All that said, there seems to be something else going on too. He seems irritated and not happy Jack... He also at times looks disinterested. Maybe all effects of not being 100% I don't know. But something is obviously not right.

 

[HughesCorporation]

whether they gave up, tuned him out or are trying hard to do what he says.. it makes no difference.. its just not working .. we are a "built to score team" and we dont score against good teams this year at least not nearly enough

 

[Normal Devil]

So, what is the status of our 1st round draft pick this year? Do we have it, or is it going to SJ as part of the Meier deal?

 

[My3Sons]

So, what is the status of our 1st round draft pick this year? Do we have it, or is it going to SJ as part of the Meier deal?

It only goes to SJ if NJ wins two playoff rounds so it will stay with NJ

Jinx thread

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

So, what is the status of our 1st round draft pick this year? Do we have it, or is it going to SJ as part of the Meier deal?

If it's a lottery pick, we keep it. It only goes to SJ if we made the ECF, I believe, which LOL

 

[glenwo2]

I tend to think that you are spot on.... we'll see if he has off season surgery.

All that said, there seems to be something else going on too. He seems irritated and not happy Jack... He also at times looks disinterested. Maybe all effects of not being 100% I don't know. But something is obviously not right.

Or maybe he's finally realized what Nico knew last season : That Lindy Ruff AIN'T IT.

 

[Bleedred]

Tough but it's sports, he's had more than enough track than most coaches have had in NJ. Guy would've been fired within 2 years if Lou was around.

Only Hynes got a fifth season here after missing the playoffs 3 of 4 seasons, He's the only Devils head coach to get that.

Much different times then.

We've already had a GM change since then due to lack of progress in icing a winning team.

 

[JimEIV]

It only goes to SJ if NJ wins two playoff rounds so it will stay with NJ

Jinx thread

See Fitz was brilliant.. we threw the season not to give up the pick.

Strateegery at it's finest.