Prospect Info: Lias Andersson
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Sorry, but this is a horrible assessment.
Guys go through rough stretches regardless of what time of the year it is. Toews has had a rough go of it before in the playoffs too, ditto Crosby (who was considered all but done after he pulled a complete houdini against the Rangers a few years ago.)
The Price **** had nothing to do with his game. If that were the case, he should have been on fire during the Ottawa series.
LeetchisGod
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He was as passive as I've ever seen him play in that series. You think that was a coincidence?
Yeah, but I also think you're trying too hard to justify what you think you saw.
Take some random 6 game stretch from the regular season, and I'm sure you could say the same thing with the only difference being that he didn't play all of those games against the same team.
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I can't quite figure Kreider out. The only thing I can think of is that his game is so contingent on his physical attributes that he's only making a difference when he's going balls to the wall, and it's just impossible to go balls to the wall 100% of the time over the long NHL season.
He's frustrating because he has the capability to dominate, but he only dominates occasionally. The truly dominant players can dominate in a variety of ways and that leads to more consistency. If Kreider's legs aren't there on any given night, he's just a very regular player.
Oh, and Lias Andersson.
LeetchisGod
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Are you also saying that you think Kreider's mental game is up to par? He saw a sports psychologist in 2015 so he even realizes that it's an issue.
Tons of athletes see a sport shrink, it's not uncommon.
But thats not what I was saying at all. I just said that the Price talk being the sole reason for his ineffectiveness in that series was nonsense.
Lets get back on topic though. Don't want to derail this thread too much.
This is the problem..he does not have all the talent in the world. He simply doesn't. As I stated his skills aren't elite or all world. I'm not saying he's bad at all, he's a very good player, but people attribute talents to him that he doesn't have.
It's setting the guy up for failure
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I think Kreider had really good season. And I think he can still be a little better as he struggled to find his A-game for some time after injury he suffered after his amazing start to the season. He also played most of the time with Stepan who did not have very good season, had that long streak without a goal so his stats could have been even better.
Irishguy42
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Another goal. Wew.
Also, we knew Kings wanted Anderson. Custance, who is a writer for Detroit, thinks the Red Wings wanted him too at 9.
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Also, we knew Kings wanted Anderson. Custance, who is a writer for Detroit, thinks the Red Wings wanted him too at 9.
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Even McDavid went ten games without scoring a goal.
Kreider's year to year spreads (you know, an actual sample) are nearly identical. He's the definition of a consistent player.
Unfortunately not in the POs...
Was Kreider as involved in the POs as he was early in the year? Can't fault people for wanting more, he is capable of it....
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Thing is he dangles a lot more than Cody Glass and co also picked around where he was picked. In this WJSS he has dangled as much as Suzuki has. He is probably the player in the tournament that has dangled the most!! Like who else is picking up pucks in his own end and then regularly beating forecheckers 2-3 in a row? Literary.
The talk about his potential and unflashyness is non-sense. Pure non-sense. Had he played in the CHL he would have scored a ton and nobody would have thought about commenting on it. His dad was a 5'9 SHL HOFer and one of the best Swedish danglers ever. He has it in the genes.
Was it Pierre who said that he was unflashy? What did the scouting reports say? Did they report it? Or is everyone going by the live reaction on TV where Fast was mentioned, half because he is a Swede, half because he was from HV71, and no reason whatsoever based on reality?
OK I checked about ten scouting report and nobody mentioned bad hands, soft hands, good hands and such terms where however used. Lias played in the SHL last season and was one of very few first round picks who played in the U20 WJC, he didn't play in the U18 WJC like many of the picks.
95% of the bad hands/no flash talks comes from Pierre mentioning Fast and people only seing Lias playing against much better competition than most other picks, and hence not playing that 1.5 PPG in the CHL style.
I followed Suzuki closely in this game. There will be a lot of talks for years about if it was a good pick or not. Maybe Suzuki can become one of those kids who are really effective -- but I didn't like his overall motor much to be honest. If we picked him where he was picked I wouldnt have thought it was a terrible pick or something. But comparing the skill level, Andersson tops him in many areas. The CHL is never a bad place for young talent, but it's not peaking right now. Look at Canadas result in like the WJC, last years WJSS especially, it's been a lot better. Suzuki has some issues.
Where is Gabe Vilardi? Was he even picked?
95% of the bad hands/no flash talks comes from Pierre mentioning Fast and people only seing Lias playing against much better competition than most other picks, and hence not playing that 1.5 PPG in the CHL style.
I followed Suzuki closely in this game. There will be a lot of talks for years about if it was a good pick or not. Maybe Suzuki can become one of those kids who are really effective -- but I didn't like his overall motor much to be honest. If we picked him where he was picked I wouldnt have thought it was a terrible pick or something. But comparing the skill level, Andersson tops him in many areas. The CHL is never a bad place for young talent, but it's not peaking right now. Look at Canadas result in like the WJC, last years WJSS especially, it's been a lot better. Suzuki has some issues.
Where is Gabe Vilardi? Was he even picked?
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Lt's regroup and get back on the topic of Lias Andersson
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I guess it depends on your definition of what 'elite' is. When I use the term for an NHL player I'm thinking of guys who are heading to the HOF at the end of their careers--speaking of wingers they'd be like Patrick Kane or Ovechkin or younger guys who are often to great starts like Tarasenko--maybe Patrik Laine. I wouldn't put Kreider in their company. Kreider is very good but I'm thinking maybe he sneaks into the top 50 wingers in the league.
He's not elite by my definition. He's not going to the HOF--not unless his game takes a serious uptick. He is very good but I've got use to him being kind of a tease.
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Andersson plays like a complete player. He works the entire rink--is involved in all zones. On the offense he's always attacking the net and not afraid to get his nose dirty. Diligent defensively--good on face-offs--strong on the puck--focused and reads the game really well. He's strong and not shy about taking or delivering hits. There's not much more to ask--yeah maybe he could use another half step of speed but he's a damned good player and his maturity level for his age is pretty close to off the charts. He carries himself like a veteran already--not like a rookie.
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