Confirmed with Link: Lias Andersson asks for trade. No longer with NYR.

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

According to Freidman, Rangers looking for a North-South player for Lias.

Who fits the bill?

virtanen

 

[aufheben]

virtanen

Maybe a Virtanen jersey.

 

[JimmyG89]

Still think Andersen holds value around the league. Teams are viewing it like some here, rushed over and new eyes and voices probably is what he needs.

He's also still outpacing a lot of his fellow peers in his draft class. The return might be better than we think

 

[egelband]

This video really doesn't show much. Was it at the end of a shift? Because if so it's entirely reasonable to understand why he was caught.

I was totally joking. Not even thinking if the video.

 

[Doctyl]

Part of this is Lias never getting a real shot in the NHL. He earned 2nd and 3rd line minutes over Strome and Howden in camp.

part of this is Lias not doing anything in the NHL or AHL with the minutes he was given.

regardless, I’m shocked by this. I didn’t think he was that kind of guy

 

[NoQuitInNewMexico]

According to Freidman, Rangers looking for a North-South player for Lias.

Who fits the bill?

The NHL or NHL-ish player from the farthest down south is definitely the Australian Nathan Walker. Northernmost, I'm looking at a map and I can see a few ex-NHLers were born in the city of Murmansk, Russia. Get one of them to coach him.

ed: Yan Kuznetsov was born in Murmansk too, and he'll get drafted next year. So Nathan Walker + about a third round pick

 

[Levitate]

Part of this is Lias never getting a real shot in the NHL. He earned 2nd and 3rd line minutes over Strome and Howden in camp.

part of this is Lias not doing anything in the NHL or AHL with the minutes he was given.

regardless, I’m shocked by this. I didn’t think he was that kind of guy

Mehhhhhhh I'm not the biggest Strome fan but Andersson was probably never going to "win" a spot over him. Strome is a legit NHLer who produces points one way or another

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

 

[Doctyl]

Mehhhhhhh I'm not the biggest Strome fan but Andersson was probably never going to "win" a spot over him. Strome is a legit NHLer who produces points one way or another

In camp and preseason though, Lias clearly looked better. He never got to be stapled to Panarin the way Strome did.

 

[Levitate]

In camp and preseason though, Lias clearly looked better. He never got to be stapled to Panarin the way Strome did.

Yeah but not many NHL coaches are gonna go "this rookie who looked OK in camp earned a chance over this guy who scored 40 points last year"

 

[OKR]

Not shocked, his options pretty much were:

A) Play a very minor role/being a injury call-up in a poor team that has stalled his development, till he goes back to Europe

Or

B) Demand a trade, possibly end up in somewhere where he gets a constant NHL role and/or he takes the next step on his development and atleast try to salvage his NHL career

 

[Mikos87]

Just get an NHLer. A north-south player may be a good 4th liner.

Whatever it is you get, you make sure it's an NHLer. Doesn't matter if it's a lesser prospect.

You are correcting a mistake. Make sure you get value. There is no positive optic to be had here.

 

[Kakko Schmakko]

I think a trade and fresh start makes a lot of sense. I think this was a frustrating situation both for him and the Rangers. Hopefully we get decent return back or a player in a similar situation and it works out good for both teams.

Would be great if we can get a physical young forward/prospect in return.

Would not be surprised at Lias + Georgiev for 2nd rounder + Pooljarvi

 

[Elliman]

Make an example out of him. Sit his ass until the summer. Move him at the draft. Don’t need Kravtsov and Igor following suit.

 

[egelband]

Wonder if Gorton and Lamorello could break the general not trading to rivals thing and deal Anderson for Hosang

I think Ho-Sang went through waivers. I’d think he’s on a lower value level at the moment. I do find Ho-Sang to be very intriguing though. Rangers should get Ho-Sang and Puljujarvi and any other reclamation project out there. For cheap.

 

[egelband]

So, no Puljujarvi for Andersson as per Friedman.

Going to be interesting if they are going to try and net another pick or if this will be a propect for prospect trade. If there is another Lemiuex type out there, they should be the target. Even if they are older. They mentioned wanting a more north-south type player in return.

We talked a lot about Josh Anderson. I wonder if he'll be available and Andersson could be part of a package to get him. He is hurt, but he would provide some of that size and physicality that they are looking for. JD knows the team well and would know if Columbus had Lias on their radar when they drafted in 2017.

Let's not even mention that Columbus has a HUGE need in nets. Korpisalo and Merzlikins do not seem like answers. Shesty is gonna come up soon. Georgiev+Andersson to Columbus for Josh Anderson+? Would hate to have Geo in division, but while there is no rush, there is an opportunity to get a 25 year old winger that has pedigree of scoring (been roughly a 20 goal guy since making the NHL full time) and an add, maybe a draft pick or another prospect, in return.

I could see Gorton, with all the Rangers prospect capital, “overpaying” to get “their guy”. Makes sense. Gorton seems to be pretty happy to pay whatever it takes to get the guys he sees as proper fits.

 

[egelband]

Make an example out of him. Sit his ass until the summer. Move him at the draft. Don’t need Kravtsov and Igor following suit.

I’m not sure if “a” that’s the Ranger style, “b” it’s appropriate, or “c” even feasible these days. Its more of a players’ world than ever before. For better and for worse. Just my opinion, anyhow.

 

[egelband]

Please elaborate on the Denmark part

Hamlet Quotes - Something is rotten in the state of Denmark with explanation

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

Why is that more likely?

Because there is nothing gained by Andersson leaving the team without permission.

In any case, that's just my guess. There's no way to be sure given that there is one sentence about it. We'll see what happens tomorrow--although the organization is so tight lipped about everything we may not know anything until he is actually traded.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

And does anyone have actual clarification on if LA being away from the team means he walked out on hfd OR if he asked for a trade and the organization told him to stay away from the team bc they didn't want a player that's checked out on the org to be cancerous to the ahl team, especially with kratsov back there now?

Nope, none out there. Just one line saying he's no longer with the team.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

In camp and preseason though, Lias clearly looked better. He never got to be stapled to Panarin the way Strome did.

Strome became stapled to Panarin because the pairing worked. Neither Anderson nor Howden were able to accomplish that. If you'd asked me early in the year, I would have bet the ranch that Strome was on his way out. Now look.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

I think DQ's problem is far far far more the coaching of his defense and their scheme than the offense and playing north/south vs east/west

I dunno if it's all blame it on Ruff or how much input Quinn has but the defensive approach is just terrible. It's a passive system that also seems to confuse the players and multiple times per game you see players confused about who is supposed to be covering who and the gap control in general is atrocious. There are some issues with how well forwards cover for pinching D and how aware pinching D are with putting their teammates in trouble, but a huge issue is just the system they try to play defensively and it's killing them almost every game

As I've stated before, it looks like and is as effective as every other "scheme" they had since the lockout (not counting the Torts years).

The JJ years weren't examples of defensive wizardry (especially with the likes of Not So Rozy and the Leak as the number 1 pair). While I wasn't fond of Tort's circle the wagons approach, it was effective as long as the players stayed out of the ICU. With the Advent of AV and his "swarm", the defense fell totally apart and has been that way ever since.

What I'd like to know is who is REALLY running the defense....from what I can see it ain't Ruff and it ain't Quinn.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

Nope, none out there. Just one line saying he's no longer with the team.

This indicates that it was a mutual decision. IF LA had walked out, he would be subject to suspensions, fines, etc. and I doubt the Rangers would be so active with the phones so early.

ON the other hand, it's possible that he walked out but Rangers are keeping mum on the subject in hopes of putting together a deal quickly....but that doesn't fit Gorts' MO.

 

[Rempe73]

Brett Howden's still in the NHL.

We can debate Lias' play at a lot of points and he certainly needed to be better. But not once was he given a legitimate chance. Brendan Smith made it off line 4 this season and he couldn't. Brendan Smith!

Smith produced more than Lias on the 4th line. As a washed up d-man

 

[Rempe73]

Thanks Quinn. You ****.

Yea totally Quinn when he’s produced 5 points in 13 AHL games. Yupp. And got outplayed by Smith and Haley on the 4th line. He should have been in Hartford since the beginning. And yes, Howden too.