OT: Let's talk about Movies and TV Shows, Part XXXI (now rated PG)

Runner77

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I could watch Yellowstone all day. Love it.
I’m so consumed by every episode that I am completely immersed — I don’t see the time fly and all those open air ranch scenes are captivating. Stellar writing and top notch performances, week over week — no other show delivers quite at this level of quality and consistency.
 

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We just saw a series called ''The Resort''. Mystery,suspense and comedy, It was worth watching,of course there is a cliffhanger though.
 

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Watched Everything, Everywhere, All at Once and while I salute its originality and amalgamation of styles, it lingers in futility for stretches and despite its convulated storyline, it was oddly predictable. Actors were great, filmography was great, scripting could've been better.
 
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Watched Everything, Everywhere, All at Once and while I salute its originality and amalgamation of styles, it lingers in futility for stretches and despite its convulated storyline, it was oddly predictable. Actors were great, filmography was great, scripting could've been better.
Liked the movie. Think JLC was great in it. But it's true that 25 years ago it would have been a small movie people would have caught on TMV free weekend. They would remember it today as a small movie they enjoyed as a kid on TV and would ask people for the name of that strange movie they watched when they were 10 but forgot the name. I mean it's competitors would have been Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption, Forest Gump, ... But the industry being what it is today it's almost a "masterpiece". A breath of fresh air in a sea of regurgitation.
 
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Liked the movie. Think JLC was great in it. But it's true that 25 years ago it would have been a small movie people would have caught on TMV free weekend. They would remember it today as a small movie they enjoyed as a kid on TV and would ask people for the name of that strange movie they watched when they were 10 but forgot the name. I mean it's competitors would have been Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption, Forest Gump, ... But the industry being what it is today it's almost a "masterpiece". A breath of fresh air in a sea of regurgitation.

It's as if Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension was elevated to the same status as 2001.
 

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It's as if Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension was elevated to the same status as 2001.
Yeah but it's a product of the American market. I mean i watch the release of movies in the theater and on disc/streaming on a weekly basis and the last time i was excited for a release was ... i can't remember honestly. Most okay movies i watched lately have been small indie movies with very small budget. They're good but in most case the budget prevent them from being great. Korean movies are often great though but there's not that many of them.

In 1994 the nomination for the best picture were Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemtion, Forest Gump, Four weeding and a funeral and Quiz Show. I can't think of a single movie in the last 10 years able to beat any of Forest Gump, Shawshank Redemption or Pulp Fiction. Any of those 3 movies would have won the last 10 years hands down.

The only big budget movies these days are Disney, Super Hero, Sequels or Christopher Nolan. It's as Cinema stopped existed around 10 years ago and the whole industry was replaced by Disney and Marvel. Some rogue directors like Nolan are able to do their own stuff outside of the bubble because of how good they are but the rest pretty much all the same copy pasted crap. Once upon a while a "12 years a slave" will be released. Some foreign movies here and there. But yeah sadly today i have to say EEAAO and The Northman are almost masterpiece compared to everything else. 25 years ago they would have been average at best.

[edit] oh and it's coming from someone who has a very varied taste in movies. Some of my favorite movies ever include Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Things, Alien(s), Terminator 2, Forest Gump, Good Will Hunting, Trainspotting, Snatch, City of God, lot of old Spielberg stuffs, big fan of Mad Max, Christopher Nolan obviously, The original Matrix movie, Sergio Leone, Scorsese...
 
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Yeah but it's a product of the American market. I mean i watch the release of movies in the theater and on disc/streaming on a weekly basis and the last time i was excited for a release was ... i can't remember honestly. Most okay movies i watched lately have been small indie movies with very small budget. They're good but in most case the budget prevent them from being great. Korean movies are often great though but there's not that many of them.

In 1994 the nomination for the best picture were Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemtion, Forest Gump, Four weeding and a funeral and Quiz Show. I can't think of a single movie in the last 10 years able to beat any of Forest Gump, Shawshank Redemption or Pulp Fiction. Any of those 3 movies would have won the last 10 years hands down.

The only big budget movies these days are Disney, Super Hero, Sequels or Christopher Nolan. It's as Cinema stopped existed around 10 years ago and the whole industry was replaced by Disney and Marvel. Some rogue directors like Nolan are able to do their own stuff outside of the bubble because of how good they are but the rest pretty much all the same copy pasted crap. Once upon a while a "12 years a slave" will be released. Some foreign movies here and there. But yeah sadly today i have to say EEAAO and The Northman are almost masterpiece compared to everything else. 25 years ago they would have been average at best.

[edit] oh and it's coming from someone who has a very varied taste in movies. Some of my favorite movies ever include Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Things, Alien(s), Terminator 2, Forest Gump, Good Will Hunting, Trainspotting, Snatch, City of God, lot of old Spielberg stuffs, big fan of Mad Max, Christopher Nolan obviously, The original Matrix movie, Sergio Leone, Scorsese...

Even Scifi has become dreary compared to back then with directors like Scott and Verhoven.

IMO, movies wouldn't be better without Disney and Marvel. They just filled a creative void that became ever bigger at the turn of the millenium. Sure, now that they've taken so much space, nothing else gets done to overtake it and that's simply because of that void. It has almost completely turned into being 100% about profit and naturally, with that came the ever growing need to apply formulas to recapture success. Formulas kill creativity. Everything becomes bland, without the risk of actually doing something f***ing new every once in a while.
 
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I was curious about how they could make a series from the Swedish gem "Let the right one in". I found out they couldn't. Such a shame.
 
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Even Scifi has become dreary compared to back then with directors like Scott and Verhoven.

IMO, movies wouldn't be better without Disney and Marvel. They just filled a creative void that became ever bigger at the turn of the millenium. Sure, now that they've taken so much space, nothing else gets done to overtake it and that's simply because of that void. It has almost completely turned into being 100% about profit and naturally, with that came the ever growing need to apply formulas to recapture success. Formulas kill creativity. Everything becomes bland, without the risk of actually doing something f***ing new every once in a while.
I don't think you'll see movies like Dark Star or Silent Running made anymore. It doesn't follow established Disney or Marvel formula.
 

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I don't think you'll see movies like Dark Star or Silent Running made anymore. It doesn't follow established Disney or Marvel formula.
Even a movie like Die Hard. If Die Hard was remade today McClane would be a super hero. Even though he did a lot of incredible stunts in the movie he showed human limitation a couple of times. It was a lot more grounded to earth for an action blockbuster than what we have today with movies defying the laws of physic on a regular basis. Old directors can still do it like Fury Road which was practical for the most part but new younger directors they got to do the green screen and forget the law of physics or they wont get to work on big budget movies.
 

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Even a movie like Die Hard. If Die Hard was remade today McClane would be a super hero. Even though he did a lot of incredible stunts in the movie he showed human limitation a couple of times. It was a lot more grounded to earth for an action blockbuster than what we have today with movies defying the laws of physic on a regular basis. Old directors can still do it like Fury Road which was practical for the most part but new younger directors they got to do the green screen and forget the law of physics or they wont get to work on big budget movies.

You're not even halfway there. John McClane would become Jane Juan McCarril, a non-binary pansexual part latino part afro all-american mary sue.

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Yeah but it's a product of the American market. I mean i watch the release of movies in the theater and on disc/streaming on a weekly basis and the last time i was excited for a release was ... i can't remember honestly. Most okay movies i watched lately have been small indie movies with very small budget. They're good but in most case the budget prevent them from being great. Korean movies are often great though but there's not that many of them.

In 1994 the nomination for the best picture were Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemtion, Forest Gump, Four weeding and a funeral and Quiz Show. I can't think of a single movie in the last 10 years able to beat any of Forest Gump, Shawshank Redemption or Pulp Fiction. Any of those 3 movies would have won the last 10 years hands down.

The only big budget movies these days are Disney, Super Hero, Sequels or Christopher Nolan. It's as Cinema stopped existed around 10 years ago and the whole industry was replaced by Disney and Marvel. Some rogue directors like Nolan are able to do their own stuff outside of the bubble because of how good they are but the rest pretty much all the same copy pasted crap. Once upon a while a "12 years a slave" will be released. Some foreign movies here and there. But yeah sadly today i have to say EEAAO and The Northman are almost masterpiece compared to everything else. 25 years ago they would have been average at best.

[edit] oh and it's coming from someone who has a very varied taste in movies. Some of my favorite movies ever include Shawshank Redemption, Pulp Fiction, The Things, Alien(s), Terminator 2, Forest Gump, Good Will Hunting, Trainspotting, Snatch, City of God, lot of old Spielberg stuffs, big fan of Mad Max, Christopher Nolan obviously, The original Matrix movie, Sergio Leone, Scorsese...

It's mostly because from 2012 to 2021 super hero movie have been almost sure shot top10 grosses, so they kept making them since it could not fail and, somehow, people kept asking for more of that stuff. The no risk whatsoever/High reward approach of the industry.

2012:
(1) The Avengers, $1.5B
(3) The Dark Knight Rises $1B
(7) The Amazing Spider-Man $758M

2013:
(2) Iron Man 3 $1.2B
(9) Man of Steel $668M
(10) Thor: The Dark World $644M
(15) The Wolverine $415M

2014:
(3) Guardians of the Galaxy $773M
(6) X-Men: Days of Future Past $746M
(7) Captain America: The Winter Soldier $714M
(9) The Amazing Spider-Man 2 $708M

2015:
(4) Avengers: Age of Ultron $1.4B
(14) Ant-Man $520M
(44) Fantastic Four $168M <-- One of the rare exception.

2016:
(1) Captain America: Civil War $1.1B
(7) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice $874M
(9) Deadpool $783M
(10) Suicide Squad $747M
(11) Doctor Strange $678M
(15) X-Men: Apocalypse $544M

2017:
(6) Spider-Man: Homecoming $880M
(8) Guardians of the Galaxy vol.2 $864M
(9) Thor: Ragnarok $854M
(10) Wonder Woman $822M
(14) Justice League $658M
(15) Logan $619M

2018:
(1) Avengers: Infinity War $2B
(2) Black Panther $1.3B
(5) Aquaman $1.1B
(7) Venom $856M
(9) Deadpool 2 $735M
(11) Ant-Man and the Wasp $623M

2019:
(1) Avengers: Endgame $2.8B
(4) Spider-man: Far from Home $1.13B
(5) Captain Marvel $1.12B
(6) Joker $1B
(25) Shazam! $366M
(35) X-Men: Dark Phoenix $252M

2021 (Not every movie got a wide release):
(1) Spider-Man: No Way Home $1.9B
(7) Venom: Let There be Carnage $507M
(9) Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings $432M
(11) Eternals $402M
(13) Black Widow $380M
(25) The Suicide Squad $169M

2022: Doctor Strange Multiverse Madness, The Batman, Thor: Love and Thunder, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever will finish top10. Black Adam top15 and Morbius top25.
 

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Dahmer — Monster — the Jeffrey Dahmer story: 7.8/10 Good show.

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever: 7.5/10 good blockbuster.

the english: 7.5/10 good western serie

Wednesday season 1: 7.3/10 good first season

the crown season 5: 7/10
 
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