OT: Let's talk about movies (and TV shows)... Part IX

[DAChampion]

I'll take superhero films over phoney historically-inaccurate oscar bait films like Imitation Game and The King's Speech.

 

[groovejuice]

I'll take superhero films over phoney historically-inaccurate oscar bait films like Imitation Game and The King's Speech.

I'll happily accept to your comic book preference, but there's not a single "biographical" film ever that wasn't over dramatized and exaggerated.

And hyper exaggerated films depending entirely on CG and fairy tale stories are less objectionable?

If you want more truth and less fiction, watch a documentary. Unless it's by Leni Reifenshtal.

 

[DAChampion]

I'll happily accept to your comic book preference, but there's not a single "biographical" film ever that wasn't over dramatized and exaggerated.

And hyper exaggerated films depending entirely on CG and fairy tale stories are less objectionable?

If you want more truth and less fiction, watch a documentary. Unless it's by Leni Reifenshtal.

Your argument is circular. You are saying that we need to tolerate intellectually bankrupt films because other films are intellectually bankrupt as well. Sorry: no.

I'm also not arguing against dramatization in biography, which would be an absurd argument. I quite enjoyed The Wind Rises for example, whicu used dreams to illustrate the protagonist's journey. What I'm arguing against are phoney manipulations designed only to appeal to oscar voters. The King's Speech is cynical, The Wind Rises is not.

As for documentaries, I watch them. It is far less absurd to watch documentaries than your post implies. If you have a Netflix subscription there are a few thousand available at your fingertips.

Finally, comic book films are made to entertain and as expressions of their directors' passions (sometimes), they are thus intrinsically less cynical. Cash grabs like Amazing Spider Man 2 are transparent.

 

[groovejuice]

Your argument is circular. You are saying that we need to tolerate intellectually bankrupt films because other films are intellectually bankrupt as well. Sorry: no.

I'm also not arguing against dramatization in biography, which would be an absurd argument. I quite enjoyed The Wind Rises for example, whicu used dreams to illustrate the protagonist's journey. What I'm arguing against are phoney manipulations designed only to appeal to oscar voters. The King's Speech is cynical, The Wind Rises is not.

As for documentaries, I watch them. It is far less absurd to watch documentaries than your post implies. If you have a Netflix subscription there are a few thousand available at your fingertips.

Finally, comic book films are made to entertain and as expressions of their directors' passions (sometimes), they are thus intrinsically less cynical. Cash grabs like Amazing Spider Man 2 are transparent.

Perhaps you missed the implied sarcasm in my post. I don't necessarily disagree with you by the way.

I merely found it very funny you used a genre of total fantasy as foil for your criticism.

I love documentaries. Not sure why you'd have a different impression.

 

[Tabarouette]

I'll take superhero films over phoney historically-inaccurate oscar bait films like Imitation Game and The King's Speech.

Birdman understood that and combined both

 

[DangerDave]

Saw it tonight. Great movie. Lots of fun.

I'm sticking to my guns and saying as far as movie trends go, I'd gladly suffer through an over saturation of super hero movies than whatever other crap trends happen.

Even the bad ones aren't even that bad. They employ an obscene amount of people.

If you want films with more 'substance' route through the entire history of world cinema and you'll find enough there to keep you busy 5 lifetimes over. Even old Hollywood movies have more brains, heart and better acting in one scene then most critically acclaimed movies from the last 20-30 years. Let alone the last 5-10.

Very true. I prefer it to having a bunch of terrible horror movie or remakes of classic movie cash ins. At the very least they are entertaining. That quicksilver scene in Xmen was just pure fun. Only issue with them is that they have almost identical plots but at least they are generally well executed.

 

[MasterDecoy]

i know im probably late to this party, but listening to marty robbins, i stumbled on this



holy f-word

 

[DAChampion]

Damn, Inside Out is already gone from my local theatre. I missed it because I was ill.

Meanwhile, Ant Man is playing on three different screens.

I might stay home tonight and stream LA Confidential over Netflix.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Damn, Inside Out is already gone from my local theatre. I missed it because I was ill.

Meanwhile, Ant Man is playing on three different screens.

I might stay home tonight and stream LA Confidential over Netflix.

never gets old

and to think that titanic won the oscar over it

 

[DAChampion]

I liked LA Confidential but didn't love it.

It was weird seeing all those famous actors much younger. Russel Crowe ... lol.

 

[mitchmagic]

Ant Man was awesome y'all.

 

[GoodKiwi]

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries is where it's at IMO! I go through that stuff like popcorn.

 

[Redux91]

I liked LA Confidential but didn't love it.

It was weird seeing all those famous actors much younger. Russel Crowe ... lol.

yeah, russel with that haircut always makes me chuckle, hes such a great actor yet in this movie hes just a hot head that kicks peoples ***** and asks questions after lol

 

[Guilliam]

Any Fantasia Fest fan here?

I already went to see 9 movies so far. I'll probably go to 7 or 8 more.

That one was a lot of fun

 

[General Fanager]

Ant Man was awesome y'all.

I really enjoyed it too....although I made the mistake of leaving after the first secret scene.

there are 2 for those who didn't know......

 

[General Fanager]

Anyone checked out The Suicide Squad trailer? It looks intense. Leto is gonna make a terrific joker

He does look awesome but Heath Ledger is gonna be hard to beat as joker.....

 

[MXD]

I'll take superhero films over phoney historically-inaccurate oscar bait films like Imitation Game and The King's Speech.

Meh, as Oscar-bait as King's Speech was, it was a very good movie, bordering great.

I tend to dislike superhero movies, but that probably has to do with the setting of most of them.

Did watch Dracula Untold, which is, in a way, a historically-inaccurate superhero movie. Perfectly acceptable.

 

[DAChampion]

I watched Training Day tonight. I have no idea what it's supposed to be.

 

[Paul Dipietro]

Meh, as Oscar-bait as King's Speech was, it was a very good movie, bordering great.

I tend to dislike superhero movies, but that probably has to do with the setting of most of them.

Did watch Dracula Untold, which is, in a way, a historically-inaccurate superhero movie. Perfectly acceptable.

Which was ironically the most historically accurate of the Dracula movies (since it focused on the actual historical figure Vlad Tepes and not the character he inspired in the mind of Bram Stoker)

 

[Alex514]

I watched Training Day tonight. I have no idea what it's supposed to be.

It's a good cop/bad cop movie at it's core if you break it down.

You mean you never seen this flic before? WOW. I thought pretty much everyone has seen it by now.

Great script, direction and acting.

 

[Tim Wallach]

I watched Training Day tonight. I have no idea what it's supposed to be.

I absolutely hated that movie. Thought it was one of the most over-rated pieces of crap I've ever seen.

Found it very ironic Denzel won for that as it was one of his most cliched, over-wrought performances.

 

[Alex514]

That's the beauty of Music and Cinema.... what's crap to you, might be great for others.

But I enjoyed most of Antoine Fuqua & David Ayer work. I just love their gritty movies!

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I absolutely hated that movie. Thought it was one of the most over-rated pieces of crap I've ever seen.

Found it very ironic Denzel won for that as it was one of his most cliched, over-wrought performances.

Its a good movie from what I remember but yeah its definitely overrated.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Training day is ride a towe truck over my balls awesome

You also have to take into consideration that this is Denzel ****ing Washington and that this role turned his whole career upside down. Here is a good guy playing.,.. oh snap, a bad guy

 

[Lebowski]

I watched Snatch and Lock, Stock and two smoking barrels. Both are absolutely great, but coming from the same director in Guy Ritchie and watching both movies almost back to back, it almost feels like watching the same movie twice. The structure is awfully similar, the casting is awfully similar, and hell, some actors basically have the exact same role in both movies.

Would still highly recommend to anyone that hasn't seen either of the two to give it a shot. That kind of Crime/Comedy mix is right down my alley.

"It's been emotional"