Amazing Kreiderman
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Does anyone remember Steven Delisle? He is playing tonight for Sparta Praha against Mlada Boleslav. This arena is f***ing insane. 18.000 seats and the roof looks like MSG
In reminiscing on all this, some of my old hates come back. I used to and still do detest the Islanders. That never stops. Same with Philly. Pens I have detested from go and it is all Maryo's fault. Crosby is marginally less of a cry baby. Though I will say that I could not stand Mike Flockheart at all.For some reason, the Devils have never rose to the level of "detest" that I have for the Isles or Philly.
I remember also disliking the Caps a lot. Bondra, Druce, etc. Clearly recall a fight between Barry Beck & Rod Langway. Utter slugfest.
Don't forget players like Tinordi, who had a fine career in Dallas or Ian Lapperiere who had a fine career as a third line center or a Marchant, who also had a fine career. Singin is right. Keenan did have some of his own demands, like Noonan .I still feel like Smith missed out on creating a dynasty by panicking, starting with the Weight for Tikkanen deal. You had a top 9 that could have had Messier/Weight/Nemchinov down the middle, with Graves, Amonte, Kovalev, Gartner on the wings, plus players like King and Turcotte in the mix. You also had Leetch, Zubov, Beukeboom, Karpovtsev and later Nordstrom on D. You could have still added Lowe and MacTavish for the minimal cost you paid. But, Smith ended up panicking after bowing out in 1992. There’s an alternative universe where Richter doesn’t allow the 90-footer to Ron Francis, and the Rangers win the Cup that year, and are set up for the rest of the decade.
Crosby is a bit better, but he is a lot like his mentor. Always hated that about him and Maryo. Just absolute whiny bi$%^^The Pens have always been whiners. Whining about needing a stadium. Whining about how unfair the economics were. Whining and being gifted Crosby.
Don't forget players like Tinordi, who had a fine career in Dallas or Ian Lapperiere who had a fine career as a third line center or a Marchant, who also had a fine career. Singin is right. Keenan did have some of his own demands, like Noonan .
Not to mention that he gave away good role players. There was no need to trade Domi & King. NONE.He gave up too much talent for role players.
Crosby is a bit better, but he is a lot like his mentor. Always hated that about him and Maryo. Just absolute whiny bi$%^^
Not to mention that he gave away good role players. There was no need to trade Domi & King. NONE.
And that is the entitlement he gets from his mentor. That feeling that he can get away with anything because he knows Bettman will protect him.Agreed about 66. And the BS that was thrown at Adam Graves was always total garbage.
Crosby, to me, has always been a dirty player. Partly because he knows he will never held accountable for anything.
And then spend over spend money trying to reproduce them. Wash, rinse, repeat. Hoping that cycle breaks with Gorton.This organziation seems to have a bad habit of overpaying for role players (either in trades on in free agency). All the while, they never seem to develop them.
Agreed about 66. And the BS that was thrown at Adam Graves was always total garbage.
Crosby, to me, has always been a dirty player. Partly because he knows he will never held accountable for anything.
Agreed. If it was up to Keenan, both Leetch and Richter would have dealt, too. But, Smith started it with the trades for Tikkanen (who was a disaster that year) and Olczyk. They weren’t even a year away from winning the President’s Trophy. He gave up too much talent for role players.
I also think Smith got a little seduced by the success that came from the many moves at TDL and fell in love with making big changes at the deadline. The Norstrom et al/Kurri et al move demonstrates that.
I still feel like Smith missed out on creating a dynasty by panicking, starting with the Weight for Tikkanen deal. You had a top 9 that could have had Messier/Weight/Nemchinov down the middle, with Graves, Amonte, Kovalev, Gartner on the wings, plus players like King and Turcotte in the mix. You also had Leetch, Zubov, Beukeboom, Karpovtsev and later Nordstrom on D. You could have still added Lowe and MacTavish for the minimal cost you paid. But, Smith ended up panicking after bowing out in 1992. There’s an alternative universe where Richter doesn’t allow the 90-footer to Ron Francis, and the Rangers win the Cup that year, and are set up for the rest of the decade.
A bit lost in history is how good TGO's first two seasons here were.
Jason BlakeIt isn't a guy, but remember when we had that line brawl with the Isles and Messier choked a dude?
He was turning purple.
That is why there will never be another like him. Heck, in his last season he still put up 62 points in 70 games.A bit lost in history is how good TGO's first two seasons here were.
Hindsight is 20/20. In many ways, that 92 team was better than the 94 team. I was rather young, but it's difficult to describe the pressure that gathered on the Rangers after that debacle in the 92 playoffs, followed by an utter disasterous season in '93. People thought the organization was legitimately cursed, and they had every right to do so. Point being, I won't blame Smith for what he did leading up to '94 in lieu of the longshot potential of a dynasty because it worked. They won it all. Almost every decision he made after that, however, was disgraceful. The team chased the dragon for almost 10 years after that and paid severely for it.
You are talking about the 92 team that was heading for greatness were it not for Maryo whining and dropping to the ice following the "slash" by Graves? That still gets me mad. Though Richter giving up a 150 goal to Francis did not help matters.That 92 team should have won the Cup.
You are talking about the 92 team that was heading for greatness were it not for Maryo whining and dropping to the ice following the "slash" by Graves? That still gets me mad. Though Richter giving up a 150 goal to Francis did not help matters.
This organziation seems to have a bad habit of overpaying for role players (either in trades on in free agency). All the while, they never seem to develop them.