OT: Let's Remember Some Guys

[Thordic]

So ... his brother without finishing?

Bigger than his brother, not quite as good defensively, but it's not a terrible comparison.

Marcel was a player you watched and didn't understand why he wasn't a star. He had all the tools to succeed except for a brain.

 

[Thordic]

I liked Jed

I don't think I've ever seen someone say anything bad about him. He was our first glimmer of hope before the dark ages came to an end (as far as effort, not skill clearly).

 

[CasusBelli]

Bigger than his brother, not quite as good defensively, but it's not a terrible comparison.

Marcel was a player you watched and didn't understand why he wasn't a star. He had all the tools to succeed except for a brain.

That seems to be the case with a lot of early first-rounders — the so-called “busts.”

 

[Good Intentions]

Speaking of Ortmeyer - Going back a decade (jesus), I jumped out of a car at 55th and 10th ave. Nearly colliding with Ortmeyer, Girardi, Callahan as they were walking their dogs. Pretty sure they had apts in the same complex in that area - they were all surprised I immediately recognized all by name.

Ortmeyer was well taken care of by Rod Gilbert, very comfortable gig within the organization.

 

[Mandar]

Per Djoos (Pear Juice)….

Igor Liba (a fav of mine...we hardly knew ya)

Milo Horava (awful, awful defenseman)

 

[Crease]

Speaking of Ortmeyer - Going back a decade (jesus), I jumped out of a car at 55th and 10th ave. Nearly colliding with Ortmeyer, Girardi, Callahan as they were walking their dogs. Pretty sure they had apts in the same complex in that area - they were all surprised I immediately recognized all by name.

Ortmeyer was well taken care of by Rod Gilbert, very comfortable gig within the organization.

Can you explain further? I know Orts is in player development -- I thought Rod is in a sort of fan ambassador role.

I used to see Rod all the time before I switched gyms. Very nice guy and always happy to talk hockey.

 

[Good Intentions]

Can you explain further? I know Orts is in player development -- I thought Rod is in a sort of fan ambassador role.

I used to see Rod all the time before I switched gyms. Very nice guy and always happy to talk hockey.

I'm under the impression, partially first-hand that Rod Gilbert really like Ortmeyer during his tenure in New York - and helped him solidify a spot in the organization after his final AHL rodeo in San Antonio.

Rod is always happy to talk. Different era guy, did well for himself after his playing years. His wife is the brains of that duo.

 

[will1066]

It was to Calgary.



I have a stick that once belonged to Eric Cairns. Nobody in my family, including me, can remember how I got it.

Eric Cairns simply happens, and when you least expect it. There's no logical explanation.

 

[will1066]

Kim Johnsson was to the Rangers what Stralman is to the Devils.

Not sure I follow.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Who remembers the goalie Matt Zaba?

 

[NYR Viper]

Andrew Yogan. The Floridian.

I saw Brodie Dupont play int he ECHL just last year

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Andrew Yogan. The Floridian.

I saw Brodie Dupont play int he ECHL just last year

Yogan tearing it up over here

 

[Raspewtin]

lean mean kyle jean is gonna be a 1lw someday

 

[PromNite]

Manny Malhotra was supposed to be amazing back in the day. Another dud

 

[Thordic]

Not sure I follow.

I get what he's going for but it's a weak analogy. Johnsson was ours and went on to a better career elsewhere. But we didn't just let him go, we traded him for Lindros, which was a pretty substantial trade at the time.

Stralman wasnt' drafted by the Devils though - he was a Toronto pick. He was traded a few times and was on a PTO with the Devils. He had some un-diagnosed medical issue (asthma or something) that Rangers doctors caught and treated, which led to him being a much more effective player.

 

[Thordic]

Manny Malhotra was supposed to be amazing back in the day. Another dud

Hard to call him a dud. He wasn't developed properly and had an injury that took him a while to recover from (ankle injury that impacted his skating for quite a while). His offense never materialized (again, he wasn't properly developed) but he still had a pretty good career. Almost 1,000 games as a top-tier defensive lower-6 guy. And it's not like the Rangers were reaching, he was highly coveted. Lastly, not a great draft. He was picked between Rico Fata and Mark Bell. Mike Rupp was picked #9.

 

[NCRanger]

Manny Malhotra was supposed to be amazing back in the day. Another dud

Manny Malhotra played in the NHL for over 10 years.

The problem with the Rangers, they expected him to be a scorer. Instead, he was a solid bottom 6 forward. He was a waste of a high draft pick, when he could have been drafted 60 spots lower and had the same career.

 

[Cruxial]

Paul Cyr.

Richard Zemlak & Willi Plett. Both were ours briefly during the summer, before being lost in the waiver draft if I recall correctly.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Manny Malhotra was supposed to be amazing back in the day. Another dud

He went on to have a pretty nice career. The way he was handled with the Rangers was a prime example of how F'd up the organization was at the time.

 

[will1066]

He went on to have a pretty nice career. The way he was handled with the Rangers was a prime example of how F'd up the organization was at the time.

See also:

Savard, Marc

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

See also:

Savard, Marc

Yup - Savard could be an equivalent to DeAngelo in some ways. I believe Savard had attitude issues as a younger player, but went on to have a very good career.

I get shivers thinking about those days 20 or so years ago. This current team stinks, but at least they are somewhat owning it and trying to rebuild. Those teams were run by fat-cat over the hill veterans and supplemented by a bickering coaching staff/management. It was a virus in every conceivable way.

 

[Good Intentions]

Manny Malhotra was supposed to be amazing back in the day. Another dud

From the simplification of your sentence, I'm going to assume he was before your time (which is fine)...and not sure what "supposed to be amazing" means...

Malhotra was drafted high, John Muckler seemed to have an agenda against him. Neil Smith refused to include him in the Pavel Bure trade, nevertheless his NYR career never took off. Still, an 18-year run in the NHL is nothing to cast off. Definitely not a 'dud' - he was a valuable veteran for many playoff teams.

 

[True Blue]

No love for Knucksie Nilan?

 

[mike14]

Adam Hall and our seemingly endless and fruitless search for 'secondary scoring'.
He had the most awkward/horrid skating style as well...

 

[will1066]

Yup - Savard could be an equivalent to DeAngelo in some ways. I believe Savard had attitude issues as a younger player, but went on to have a very good career.

I get shivers thinking about those days 20 or so years ago. This current team stinks, but at least they are somewhat owning it and trying to rebuild. Those teams were run by fat-cat over the hill veterans and supplemented by a bickering coaching staff/management. It was a virus in every conceivable way.

Savard was a bit of an enigma for a while