let’s talk about the Blue Jackets… it’s bad.. real bad.

[Devils090]

The Devils aren’t that much better than Columbus, their early little success this season might not progress as they might very likely miss play offs again for 6th year in a row

Lmfao yeah minus that 7-1 game the other day where the Devils had one of the most dominant wins of the analytic era

 

[Jerzey Devil]

I see the Devil fans are a bit intoxicated after their good start this year, we will talk in April again

We got off the a relatively hot start last season too which is exactly why I’m not getting my hopes up again. They’re due to breakout though.

I’m not in favor of kicking a fanbase while they’re down though. Devils fans should have a little more empathy right now considering the product we’ve had to watch for the past 10 years.

 

[Devils090]

Hughes, yes. But Laine is significantly better than Hischier or Bratt.

Hischier is a good 2nd line center with strong two way play and Bratt feeds off of Hughes.

LMFAO

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Laine has five goals in his last twenty games

Have fun with a guy whos only skill is shooting and he cant even do that without two linemates doing all the other work for him

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

2 way play is overrated when compared to one of the best pure goal scorers in the league.

Hischier is a PPG with Fabian Zetterlund + Tomas Tatar as his wingers, please educate yourself before you talk about another team.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Hughes, yes. But Laine is significantly better than Hischier or Bratt.

Hischier is a good 2nd line center with strong two way play and Bratt feeds off of Hughes.

First off Bratt is three times the player Laine is so dont make us all laugh too hard

Second, Laine wont ever reach those goal totals in Columbus; a team with absolutely no locker room culture or stability from management or coaching for a player in Laine whos attitude is as bad as they come. And now he cant even do well next to their new ~10m man as the team is plummeting

Maybe if you luck into Connor Bedard or hire a real coach he can score 40+ again

 

[paragon]

It's not about the players. Coaching sucks and Jarmo needs to lose his job for failing to address the coaching situation for the 3rd straight season.

 

[majormajor]

Is age really a factor? Sabres are in fact the youngest team (not according to OP) and some early posts are blaming age on the Jackets bad start.

The problem is probably the locker room and team leaders: losing Foligno hurt big time.

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It's not an average age problem. It's having three teenagers in the lineup and a bunch of over the hill guys and not enough 23-30 aged glue guys.

In what world Hishier and Bratt are better than Gaudreau and Laine ?

In reality right now?

Gaudreau and Laine will start piling in goals soon but Hischier and Bratt are already doing that and have the skill sets to continue doing that.

Hughes, yes. But Laine is significantly better than Hischier or Bratt.

He is not.

Hischier is a good 2nd line center with strong two way play and Bratt feeds off of Hughes.

Those are out of date opinions.

2 way play is overrated when compared to one of the best pure goal scorers in the league.

Not when the 2 way guys are also outscoring the goal scorer.

 

[majormajor]

First off Bratt is three times the player Laine is so dont make us all laugh too hard

Second, Laine wont ever reach those goal totals in Columbus; a team with absolutely no locker room culture or stability from management or coaching for a player in Laine whos attitude is as bad as they come. And now he cant even do well next to their new ~10m man as the team is plummeting

Maybe if you luck into Connor Bedard or hire a real coach he can score 40+ again

I mean I'd prefer Bratt who like you say is his own driver but Laine is just as capable of scoring 40 or 50 as ever. He could not show up for months and then score 35 in half a season.

 

[ViD]

In reality right now?

Gaudreau and Laine will start piling in goals soon but Hischier and Bratt are already doing that and have the skill sets to continue doing that.

They might look better right this moment, but in no way they are better hockey players in general. They both had a good last season, but that’s about it. Similarly, Laine was PPG last year and Gaudreau had a season for the ages

 

[majormajor]

Did you listen to him on spittin chiclets?

The day of, I was only really talking to two (teams),” Gaudreau said during an appearance on “Spittin Chiclets.” “I was pretty much signed with a different team, most of the day I hadn’t heard from Columbus, and then all of a sudden they called at like 4 p.m., and I told my agent, ‘I want to go here. Just try to get this done. This is the spot I want to be right here.’

“I was super thankful Columbus called during that late hour in the afternoon,” he added. “I think I was trying to get a deal done with the Devils, and then Columbus called.”

Well then Gaudreau misrepresented what happened.

The Jackets, like several clubs, sent a formal offer to Johnny's agent at noon, and then heard nothing back from him.

Johnny talked to Gudbranson around 3pm, after Gudbranson signed there and Johnny told him that he wanted to go to Columbus too. Gudbranson sent that word along and the is how the Jackets knew that they had to call Johnny again.

What likely happened here is that Johnny and his wife decided together, they had some misgivings about living too close and wanted to start fresh and it took them most of the afternoon to figure it out, and Gudbranson going to Columbus (the wives are best friends) is what tipped the scales.

No player is going to tell the press "my wife decided this" but i think that's what happened here. And if a player wants to make his wife happy and thinks "I'm Johnny MF Gaudreau and I'll figure out the on ice stuff", then that should be respected over a guy who wants it easy on the ice and prioritizes that over family needs.

They might look better right this moment, but in no way they are better hockey players in general. They both had a good last season, but that’s about it. Similarly, Laine was PPG last year and Gaudreau had a season for the ages

I'd rank them Gaudreau > Hischier and Bratt > Laine.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Well then Gaudreau misrepresented what happened.

The Jackets, like several clubs, sent a formal offer to Johnny's agent at noon, and then heard nothing back from him.

Johnny talked to Gudbranson around 3pm, after Gudbranson signed there and Johnny told him that he wanted to go to Columbus too. Gudbranson sent that word along and the is how the Jackets knew that they had to call Johnny again.

What likely happened here is that Johnny and his wife decided together, they had some misgivings about living too close and wanted to start fresh and it took them most of the afternoon to figure it out, and Gudbranson going to Columbus (the wives are best friends) is what tipped the scales.

No player is going to tell the press "my wife decided this" but i think that's what happened here. And if a player wants to make his wife happy and thinks "I'm Johnny MF Gaudreau and I'll figure out the on ice stuff. And I think that kind of man should be respected over a guy who wants it easy on the ice and prioritizes that over family needs.



I'd rank them Gaudreau > Hischier and Bratt > Laine.

All of what you said doesn't change the fact that almost everyone in the hockey world had him signing in NJ.
When he says he was talking to 2 teams, it was NJ and NYI... not CBJ
Colombus wasn't even talking to him until they got word he wanted to sign there, I believe there is a video of them receiving his information and then getting to work on signing him.
He strung the Devils along all day, when he clearly didn't want to go there.
Fans are pissed because he did this, knowingly and intentionally and then has another quote about "thankfully Columbus called" which feels like a slight towards the Devils.

 

[majormajor]

All of what you said doesn't change the fact that almost everyone in the hockey world had him signing in NJ.
Colombus wasn't even talking to him until they got word he wanted to sign there, I believe there is a video of them receiving his information and then getting to work on signing him.
He strung the Devils along all day, when he clearly didn't want to go there.
Fans are pissed because he did this, knowingly and intentionally and then has another quote about "thankfully Columbus called" which feels like a slight towards the Devils.

It looks more like the Gaudreaus weren't sure what they wanted more so than stringing anyone along.

Also "thankfully Columbus called because it's a better fit for my family" shouldn't offend you. See it in that light.

Everyone keeps trying to think that every player is just trying to get on the best team possible and that's not how this works. Think about how it works for you when you move town or are in a job search. There are probably important people in your life that are a part of your decision making process.

The whole line of humor now "haha Johnny picked the wrong team" really betrays the misunderstanding.

 

[Zirakzigil]

With how Gaudreau dealt with the Flames and then the Devil, I have zero sympathy for him. Im not sure what most fans expected with the Jackets this year. Their defense did not look good and their goaltending looked worse. They were going to be a bad team.

 

[HugeInTheShire]

It looks more like the Gaudreaus weren't sure what they wanted more so than stringing anyone along.

Also "thankfully Columbus called because it's a better fit for my family" shouldn't offend you. See it in that light.

Everyone keeps trying to think that every player is just trying to get on the best team possible and that's not how this works. Think about how it works for you when you move town or are in a job search. There are probably important people in your life that are a part of your decision making process.

The whole line of humor now "haha Johnny picked the wrong team" really betrays the misunderstanding.

He didn't say the better fit for my family part, it didn't' offend me either way I didn't want him from the get go.
For me UFA contracts

I'm just stating him stringing the Devils along all day, making the fans feel as if they had him and then suddenly going to a 3rd team that had exactly zero interest in him until he called them is a pretty solid reason to get booed by fans.

I know CBJ fans probably weren't paying a whole lot of attention to where JG was going to sign as no body was saying them, but Devil fans sure as shit were. They were salivating at the thought of another big name free agent picking them and when he said F you and went to a division rival that hadn't bothered even making an offer. It stung

As for the Johnny picked the wrong team narrative, I personally couldn't care less how Columbus or Johnny do, I want the Devils to win hockey games and that's it. Columbus doesn't cross my mind unless they're playing the Devils.

 

[Crede777]

Not when the 2 way guys are also outscoring the goal scorer.

Ok but Jesper Bratt hasn't done that so.... We all love the scrappy undersized fan favorite wingers like Bratt and Gallagher but let's be realistic here. Even during a down season last year where he took a prolonged absence, Laine was at a PPG and Bratt was not.

 

[majormajor]

He didn't say the better fit for my family part, it didn't' offend me either way I didn't want him from the get go.
For me UFA contracts

I'm just stating him stringing the Devils along all day, making the fans feel as if they had him and then suddenly going to a 3rd team that had exactly zero interest in him until he called them is a pretty solid reason to get booed by fans.

The Jackets actually submitted an offer at noon.

I know CBJ fans probably weren't paying a whole lot of attention to where JG was going to sign as no body was saying them, but Devil fans sure as shit were. They were salivating at the thought of another big name free agent picking them and when he said F you and went to a division rival that hadn't bothered even making an offer. It stung

I was perhaps the only one on the Jackets board who was talking about Gaudreau as a realistic option. But everyone wanted him. UFA contract or not he fits a huge need.

As for the Johnny picked the wrong team narrative, I personally couldn't care less how Columbus or Johnny do, I want the Devils to win hockey games and that's it. Columbus doesn't cross my mind unless they're playing the Devils.

Ok good. There's a few Devils fans that I wish were less bitter. You have a good team so I don't know why they concern themselves with petty grievances.

He's also frankly not a huge need in NJ, more like an older version of Bratt, who you can just re-sign instead.

 

[Devils090]

Ok but Jesper Bratt hasn't done that so.... We all love the scrappy undersized fan favorite wingers like Bratt and Gallagher but let's be realistic here. Even during a down season last year where he took a prolonged absence, Laine was at a PPG and Bratt was not.

Bratt had 73 in 76 lol, and is at 15 in 9 so far this year

 

[ZachaFlockaFlame]

Ok but Jesper Bratt hasn't done that so.... We all love the scrappy undersized fan favorite wingers like Bratt and Gallagher but let's be realistic here. Even during a down season last year where he took a prolonged absence, Laine was at a PPG and Bratt was not.

Comparing Bratt to Gallagher is proof you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

I don’t even understand why anyone cares if NJ fans boo Gaudreau. Are you worried about his feelings? Get over it, fans boo players for less.

 

[thaman8765678]

Just remember, Johnny CHOSE to join that trainwreck lol.

 

[Viqsi]

Its only October, plenty of time to settle in and turn things around.

If it doesn't then please trade Werenski to Detroit where he belongs.

Okay. Werenski for Seider seems like a good basis. Although Werenski has more proven NHL experience so y'all might have to toss in a bit or two.

No, no, this isn't a negotiation. If you don't like that, then leave us the hell alone and stop trying to troll.

 

[Crede777]

Bratt had 73 in 76 lol, and is at 15 in 9 so far this year

Laine had 56 in 56 last year. And this year is quite young and Laine's been hurt.

 

[Clam Jensen]

Ok but Jesper Bratt hasn't done that so.... We all love the scrappy undersized fan favorite wingers like Bratt and Gallagher but let's be realistic here. Even during a down season last year where he took a prolonged absence, Laine was at a PPG and Bratt was not.

Just take the L, you’re embarrassing yourself.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

I am going to make a NJ Devils thread, so we can discuss the Blue Jackets.