Player Discussion Leo Carlsson
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The Mighty Duck Man
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How is it rushing if he’s ready for the NHL? I swear some of you would’ve wanted Bedard sent back to Regina, too.
Anaheim4ever
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I'm only worried about rushing Dmen or Sniper/PowerForward Wingers like Slaf, Kakko, Laf, Puljijarvi.
Guys like Carlsson and Fantilli usually have 40+ points as rookies like Nico Hischier.
Guys like Carlsson and Fantilli usually have 40+ points as rookies like Nico Hischier.
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If he’s ready he’s ready…. Not really rushing him…. But we won’t know until camp/preseason
TheGoodShepard1
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On the ice? Sure. But I can't imagine a better mentor to help him adapt to North America.
Anaheim4ever
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True about the mentoring part. Coach Sweden was smart to not have them on the ice together at all.
The Midnight Burrito
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I think we might be looking at the next comment that gets analyzed into oblivion.
ducks8
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If he wants to play Center, SHL may not be the place for him. He's been playing wing there obviously, but why would they all of sudden change their minds? SHL doesn't care about his development, they'll put him where they see fit. The only way I'd consider sending him back is if he's guaranteed a center position
ESPN panel said 40 goals next year for him, if he doesn't hit that, I'm going to label him a bust
Hockey Duckie
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I have more faith in the known (Orebro, SHL) than the unknown (new HC in Anaheim and new HC San Diego).
It seems odd to trash the team that developed Carlsson as a 16 and 17-year old in Sweden's top tier men's league into the #2 OA pick and believe both the Ducks and Gulls situation are more established, considering we're ushering in new head coaches using the same assistant coaches that helped their respective teams to finish last in their respective leagues.
When team Sweden made Carlsson it's 1C at the WC, then that probably should have nudged his SHL team to probably start using him at center as well. There's a possibility that Carlsson could be centering 2022 first round pick RW Lekkerimaki! If Carlsson isn't playing center full time in the SHL, then I would put him in the AHL. We want him to be developing as a center as the pre-requisite.
McTavish was playing mostly wing in his D-1 and D+0 seasons, but played center at the WJC-18. I'm glad we sent him back to juniors to play center than to fight for ice time as a 3rd line winger as an 18-year old in the NHL. It's an interesting coincidence that McTavish and Carlsson played wing for two seasons, but were drafted to play center.
duckaroosky
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Leo Carlsson kind of looks like that woman that tries kombucha and isn't sure if she likes it or not:
That's all I got to say about this pick for now; I'm still mad we lost out on Bedard.
That's all I got to say about this pick for now; I'm still mad we lost out on Bedard.
The Mighty Duck Man
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There isn’t going to be any nudging going on, it’s not like Orebro had no clue Carlsson could play center, they just didn’t want him there. It isn’t really comparable with the World’s team, as it’s two different coaches with different rosters and different outlooks. Maybe that’s exactly where they want him to play next year, but if they think playing him on the wing gives them a better chance to win that’s exactly what they’re gonna do and that’s part of the issue. That’s the difference from San Diego where winning isn’t the primary objective from a front office perspective.
I’d also just rather him be in San Diego regardless, if that’s the choice. They’re similar leagues but one has NA ice and has the team entirely in control of the process. But I suspect that won’t be the choice.
Because it's not enough to have your game be NHL ready. When you're not physically ready for the NHL, you're exposed to significant injury risk. Not saying injuries guaranteed but there is a risk.
Hockey Duckie
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It's hilarious to think developing players doesn't exist with Orebro - where Carlsson has spent the past two seasons as a 16 and 17-year old. His development was good enough to be productive as a center at the WJC-18, WJC-20, and WC. But hey, you can keep trashing Orebro for not developing players while also trying to win. It's not like we didn't start Zegras or McTavish at wing at the pros before moving them to center.
The pre-requisite is for Carlsson to play center. Anaheim and Orebro can figure this out. With Carlsson proving he can play 1C with men as well as be productive at the WC, it's time that Carlsson to move to center permanently. If Orebro can't guarantee it, then off to San Diego. San Diego is plan B. Not a difficult logic to follow.
As for San Diego, last year winning wasn't in their sights and most of our returning prospects didn't improve from their previous year. We're returning the same assistant coaches from last year's last place team.
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San Diego prob a really good spot for him. Easier to monitor him
Blue line should be good
Goalies should be solid
We kinda have a say on team around him.
I wouldn’t mind seeing if he can spark perreault a bit, or see if him and pastujov have any chemistry…. Put a high scoring AHL vet with them
Deuce22
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I don't think it's saying Orebro can't develop players. It's saying when we pick a guy at #2 we want to control his playing time, position, skills development, conditioning, and systems learning. Perhaps Ducks are fine with him helping an SHL team try to win a championship, or maybe they want to shorten the time until he's in a Duck uniform.
The Mighty Duck Man
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Good grief what a strawman. I don’t think I said anything remotely close to what you’re implying.
The Mighty Duck Man
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When I say that I mean that too, I mean ready in every instance. When it comes to being physically ready I easily think he’s that. This isn’t Nugent Hopkins coming in at a buck fifty, he should be 200 pounds by the time camp opens, maybe even 205-210. It’s a fairly similar frame to what Getzlaf had when he entered the league.
I posted this once or twice. Funny now you want to hear it… maybe you and robbieboy can watch it together… oh no wait, he gone.
Why the unnecessarily jerky response? Yes, I saw it before the draft and winced but it's good info that I'm sure people would like to hear to balance the perspective. Good for you for posting it previously. Next time just don't respond. Thanks in advance.
I'm not sure if you Ducks fans caught this, but Orebro HC Johan Hedberg sees Leo Carlsson as a center.
Carlsson impresses with versatility ahead of 2023 NHL Draft | NHL.com
Top-ranked International skater plays wing, center, models game after Backstrom, Forsberg
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They're not changing their minds, because it was never in doubt that he is a center. They were just starting him on wing when he moved up to SHL so it would be easier, less to learn. He's probably at center next year.
The big takeaway for me in that article was "Carlsson was only 5-foot-8 in his U-16 season, but now is 6-foot-2, 194 pounds." He got his big growth spurt later than his peers so he's probably still figuring out how to work with his huge body and who knows if he's even done growing yet. He's probably got a lot of room to add muscle still and as he does that he's going to get even stronger on his skates. That's some pretty huge upside.I'm not sure if you Ducks fans caught this, but Orebro HC Johan Hedberg sees Leo Carlsson as a center.
Carlsson impresses with versatility ahead of 2023 NHL Draft | NHL.com
Top-ranked International skater plays wing, center, models game after Backstrom, Forsberg
They're not changing their minds, because it was never in doubt that he is a center. They were just starting him on wing when he moved up to SHL so it would be easier, less to learn. He's probably at center next year.
I guess I'm the slightest bit traumatized over how Vegas handled Cody Glass. If Carlsson isn't physically ready I don't think he should be in the NHL. We'll see how he looks at camp. I think there's certainly a benefit to getting the kid a head start on adapting to the pace and space of the NHL or at least hockey on North American ice but I don't think there's a harm in continuing to play top line minutes in the SHL. I mean a lot of D+1 and 2 kids are still stuck in juniors before they can move onto the AHL.
