Lefebvre Discussion

Cole Caulifield

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How much pesos did this venture (place Bell) cost? Who paid for it?

I guess there's more means behind it and it could possibly blossom but ... my perception of Montreal is that it's not a hockey town it's a habs town. I could be wrong.
 

Grate n Colorful Oz

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My money is on Ducharme being the next coach.

Bergevin is just trying everything he can to push his good friend into a NHL position somewhere. If he had already hired Ducharme it would make Sly look terrible so they're waiting before they announce the deal to give a chance to Sly to find something else. MB is a good friend like that. No way he's signing Lefebvre back.

That actually makes sense.

Problem is, does anyone want Lefebvre?
 

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I edited my post above to say this.. Habs have drafted low too many times in the first round in the last couple of years and traded too many early round picks for immediate help at the deadline.. At some point, thats the tag price to have a competitive team that makes the playoffs almost every year..

No offense, but that's a load of bull. You know which team has the longest current playoff streak in the NHL? The Pittsburgh Penguins. You know which team has the longest current playoff streak in the AHL? Wow, the Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins! Worth noting that the last two baby Pens coaches were Mike Sullivan and John Hynes, who both have some background in player development.

But okay, let's assume this is not at all on poor Sly. Let's say its on scouting. Then why has no one been taken to task? If the evaluation of talent is so poor, then when does it become a problem for the scouting team? What do they keep seeing that isn't reality?

Or how about the players themselves? What if it isn't talent evaluation OR player development, it's just that the Habs keep drafting people with zero character or the will to become better players? Well then, sounds like Bergy's ability to detect character has to come into serious question now, doesn't it? Habs interview a ton of players at the combine, and Bergevin will be a huge part of that process. What the hell are they missing on every time?

Or maybe, despite all these possible criticisms........Bergevin is still satisfied? Personally, I hope One Less Louise is right and that Ducharme is suddenly announced as the successor. Lefebvre was ready to move on, and I would not stick with such a coach at a position involving player development.
 
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pepperMonkey

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That actually makes sense.

Problem is, does anyone want Lefebvre?

I know nothing about Sly as a person or his skills/talents but there are a bizzilion different types of jobs that have nothing to do with coaching, that have no relation to coaching. Unless he's a terrible person, I can't see how he couldn't find a job doing something in the NHL industry (please let me be right, he can't be the coach again...)
 

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I edited my post above to say this.. Habs have drafted low too many times in the first round in the last couple of years and traded too many early round picks for immediate help at the deadline.. At some point, thats the tag price to have a competitive team that makes the playoffs almost every year..

So how come the AHL affiliates of teams like Pittsburgh, Washington, Chicago, Tampa Bay, San Jose, ect make the playoffs on a regular basis? Is not like those teams have had high picks to suppliment their AHL rosters.
 

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So how come the AHL affiliates of teams like Pittsburgh, Washington, Chicago, Tampa Bay, San Jose, ect make the playoffs on a regular basis? Is not like those teams have had high picks to suppliment their AHL rosters.

Stop making sense.
 

Wandering Maroon

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Maybe the guy just isn't cut out to be a head coach. He was good defenseman for the organization, a loyal foot soldier. Did a lot of the dirty work. Martin Lemay put Martin Lapointe on the spot on air and he said that when they took over the farm team was a mess. What does any of us really know about coaching and developing players? If they keep losing and not developing then eventually they will all get canned. Bring back the Nordiques, that will light a fire under them.
 

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Bergevin, what the hell are you thinking??????

I'm boycotting the egghead. Not attending any Rocket games while he remains at the helm.

Is it any wonder no one wants a part of this schmuck? Can only secure a job cause of a friend in authority. Sucks the bag big time.
 

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I'm boycotting the egghead. Not attending any Rocket games while he remains at the helm.

Is it any wonder no one wants a part of this schmuck? Can only secure a job cause of a friend in authority. Sucks the bag big time.

Like, sucking a bag of bags?

Can't believe they want to bring him back and are even ready to wait for him to make up his own mind. This is what happen when an organization suffers from rampant nepotism. Some unqualified **** start acting like he's entitled to a lot of things he doesn't deserve.

You know something's wrong when you're happy your team trades a 19 yo prospect (Sergachev) for a 22yo NHL ready guy (Drouin). I don't care about the age difference, I'm actually happy we skipped development on that one.
 

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You know something's wrong when you're happy your team trades a 19 yo prospect (Sergachev) for a 22yo NHL ready guy (Drouin). I don't care about the age difference, I'm actually happy we skipped development on that one.

Good point. We bypassed Lefebvre's mangling treatment on our best prospect by simply landing someone who didn't need to go through it. Maybe this is the path to future development.
 

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On the bright side when the habs fail next season and get a regime change, if won't be hard to can Lefebvre.
 

Skip Bayless

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Good point. We bypassed Lefebvre's mangling treatment on our best prospect by simply landing someone who didn't need to go through it. Maybe this is the path to future development.

non-development

Bergevin is a genius!
 

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i really do not get this

the guy is an obvious massive failure and our prospects seem to be damaged after being put in Berevin's "development program"

the more i think about this the angrier I am getting - let Julien bring people in FFS
 

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How does no one in the media even fight him on this

We have no media, they're all friggin' patsies and panderers.

They don't want to compromise their access to free hotdogs and suds.

And too many of them work for networks that own Hab broadcasting rights -- wouldn't want to upset Donald Beauchamp by speaking the truth. Paid propagandists are growing the brand under the auspices of acting like reporters and journalists. Well played, chaps. Never bite the hand that guarantees access to the buffet table.
 

habergeon

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This is frustrating.

As has been mentioned, Ducharme is out there but not for much longer.

I could see if Lefebvre was pumping out NHL prospects or winning in his program, but he's been doing neither.
 

Rapala

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The guy at the helm has zero talent for assessing talent.
Lord help us if this goes on much longer.
Lefebvre is not good enough to replace JJD as D coach FFS...
 

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