News Article: Lebreton project

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GCK

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EM already has demonstrated he doesnt have the money to run the team,let alone build an arena...The billboards arent the reason as to why EM is in hot water,its because he isnt the billionaire he claims to be
Unrelated. EM is a drunk fool who is in over his head and neeeda to go. The billboard crew are petulant children who were acting out.
 

swiftwin

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Would you not be interested in seeing what he could with an actual owner who can back an NHL team?
He has shown his creativity with the small resources he has, it could be something to see if he had full autonomy.

Agreed. Firing Dorion would be a huge mistake.
 

GCK

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Fans have all the power. They're the customers, and can decide to spend or withhold their money. A business is only a business because of customers, and the NHL, alongside every other owner, knows this.

There's a reason why "the customer is always right" is a common phrase.
The trick is making the customers/fans feel as they are empowered without actually empowering them.
 

BonkTastic

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Dorion needs someone above him that's respected and experienced in hockey ops, at the very least. Someone who's not Melnyk.

If we could somehow retain him as an AGM, I would be thrilled. There's almost no way that happens, but regardless I'd be A-OK with that scenario.

He's not bad at ALL of the duties required of a GM. Just enough that he shouldn't sit in the big chair. He's really good at SOME things. If he were allowed to just focus on those things and let someone else take over the drivers seat, it would probably be very beneficial for everyone.
 

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If we could somehow retain him as an AGM, I would be thrilled. There's almost no way that happens, but regardless I'd be A-OK with that scenario.

He's not bad at ALL of the duties required of a GM. Just enough that he shouldn't sit in the big chair. He's really good at SOME things.

i'd be more keen on a 're-location' to head scout. he's always been great at assessing young talent.
 
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Even AGM in charge of scouting, drafting, and player development.

He's excellent in those fields. No shame in being a specialist.
He would be great as the director of player development/personnel.

Not so great as a guy making decisions on the direction and implementation of moves for an NHL team.

If we do get a new owner/s, it's more likely then not, without even taking into account what he has/hasn't done, that they will want their own guy in as GM. I highly doubt that Dorion is that guy for a new owner.
 
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He would be great as the director of player development/personnel.

Not so great as a guy making decisions on the direction and implementation of moves for an NHL team.

If we do get a new owner/s, it's more likely then not, without even taking into account what he has/hasn't done, that they will want their own guy in as GM. I highly doubt that Dorion is that guy for a new owner.

Oh, absolutely 100% agreed.
 

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Well, the current situation is not helping with keeping the core either...so #MelnykOut

My biggest takeaway from today is resignation that the uncertainty and financial issues will destroy what is left of the core. Just a gut feeling
 
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I posted this on May 24th of this year, in the previous Lebreton thread:

"For the record, I still don't think this arena is going to get built as long as Melnyk owns the team.

I fully expect a soft PR campaign over the next 1-2 years extolling how great the Kanata arena is (regardless of the truth of those claims), and the NCC will eventually move on to another developer to build the Lebreton site
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I didn't think my prediction would come true so soon, though I expect that "soft PR campaign" will extend to the usual crowd around here as well.
 

GCK

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My biggest takeaway from today is resignation that the uncertainty and financial issues will destroy what is left of the core. Just a gut feeling
And even 18K average attendance won’t change that if Lebreton is off the table.
 

GrantLemons

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This is a city issue, so yes. Melnyl has a perfectly suitable arena in Kanata.

Gary Bettman has literally gone on record saying the Sens need a new arena. So no, it's not suitable. It's at the end of it's lifespan (~20 years), and it's in a garbage location.

The Senators need to move. The team won't survive long term in this city anywhere but Lebreton.
 
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Coladin?? Ice-Tray?? Count?? Formenton? MySens?? You guys are rather quiet? No inside scoops you wanna share?
Some actually have to work out in the field and are not tied to a computer all day, or, logged on to HF all day to cry and vent.
It is very obvious that when you are dealing with a project worth north of 4 billion, you will have every little hand that needs to be greased and fingers all over the pot or finish line. This is nothing unusual in the high stakes business of development and especially one of this magnitude. This does not worry me one bit. EM holds this paper, and if any one of you had your sticky little fingers on a winning lottery ticket worth billions, you too would exercise every option available and you would NOT leave anything on the table. Trinity (John Ruddy) has a very established reputation in our business community that if you do not watch your back, you will get skinned. So, EM is still doing his due diligence on if he can work and co partner with Trinity. He has other offers on the table as I stated long ago and which was also tweeted this afternoon. I think everyone needs to breath and calm down a little.
 
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