Post-Game Talk: Leather Jackets @ The Powerhouse | 4/5/19 - 7PM - MSG PLUS

[apoptygma]

Rebuilds are boring - I wish it was done and hopefully some world class D prospects in our farm.
We need some meaningful hockey soon - this is our second season without playoffs.

Just try to change focus when looking at the games from the result to focusing a on the young guys and their progress. We got to watch new faces ever so often during thos rebuildt, and for the younger they often have a nice game to game development.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Thats a ton of if's, a lot of this was said before this year too when I was assured by many that this team was better than they were getting credit for and were going to surprise everyone.

You say that like it's not true that they were better and did surprise.

We had to lose a bunch of guys to injury late, trade Hayes and Zucc to bottom out or we'd have been around the 12th pick. Instead, after a very late bottoming out we're looking at 4-6. This team was significantly better and fought significantly harder than many thought they would. Most thought we were guaranteed a bottom 4 pick BEFORE trading away people.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

You say that like it's not true that they were better and did surprise.

We had to lose a bunch of guys to injury late, trade Hayes and Zucc to bottom out or we'd have been around the 12th pick. Instead, after a very late bottoming out we're looking at 4-6. This team was significantly better and fought significantly harder than many thought they would. Most thought we were guaranteed a bottom 4 pick BEFORE trading away people.

I don't think this is true.

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but this was commonly viewed as a bottom 10 team which would slip post deadline, thats exactly what they were.

 

[Metranger]

Another loser point. Unbelievable. I can't wait to drop 3 spots in the lottery and pick 9th

Or move up to second.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Or move up to second.

That's the dream.

 

[Shesterkybomb]

If we’re spending an AAV of 11+ mil on one player in our 2nd year of rebuilding (officially), he better ****ing be a surefire superstar. If it turns out he isn’t and we overpay, it will seriously set back the rebuild. I have a bad feeling about Panarin, even though I really like him. Anything more than an AAV of 8.5-9 mil is not a great idea.

It won't do anything to the rebuild.... we are 4-6 years away from having to invest big money into keeping our drafted players. We will more likely have a problem getting to the floor if we don't sign some outside players than the upper level of the cap

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

It won't do anything to the rebuild.... we are 4-6 years away from having to invest big money into keeping our drafted players. We will more likely have a problem getting to the floor if we don't sign some outside players than the upper level of the cap

Teams also get to the floor to be low in the standings.

Signing Panarin would make the team go from bad to topping out average, and that would encourage other dumb spending and increase mid tier draft picks, which would kill the rebuild

 

[LORDE]

I cannot believe they tied that damn game.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?????

 

[leetch99]

WIN WIN WIN....try as hard as possible should be the goal of every pro . Yes...would be nice to have lost in regulation but I still like watching my team try as hard as possible not to lose and as fans we should be proud of them for not giving up ....I see lots of good things happening out there with the kids...baby steps !!! If we lose next season so be it....but at least we go down fighting and clawing and scratching and at least let the other team know it won't be an easy 2 points . Cheer up everybody...we are going in the right direction .

 

[yrrebbor]

I for one can’t wait for this season to be a hazy memory.

 

[ThirdEye]

I for one can’t wait for this season to be a hazy memory.

Not me. Despite where we stand A LOT of good things happened this season:

- Quinn has shown that he's the right coach for this rebuild
- Zib had his best seasons yet
- Buch has turned into a beast
- ADA has established himself as a premier offensive D in the league
- We've seen lots of promise from our young kids (Chytil, Howden, Hajek, and even Andersson to an extent)
- Georgiev has establish himself as a solid backup going forward
- Strome trade

 

[NernieBichols]

the worst part when we finish 6th is having to listen to all the anti-tank people say all summer 'see I told you that we'd never be bad enough to be a bottom 5 team and it would never happen'

The rangers were gonna try to win as many games as possible, which naturally means a lot of tie games, bc of the losers point, teams may not say it, but you see it across the NHL in how games are played when it’s a tie game with 10mins left in the 3rd. Both teams want the point and the game normally gravitates towards no one giving anything up and making sure there isn’t grade-A chances against and it goes into OT.
And that’s just what it is. So if the anti-tank guys were saying the beginning, look they aren’t gonna finish in the bottom 5 bc they are in too many games and naturally it leads to OT and a point. It’s zzz backwards to act like fans get to use it as a crutch for their predictions as opppsed to be the determining factor used to come up with the prediction

 

[will1066]

He isn't coming here to play for a team that has literally been the 2nd worst team in all of hockey since Feb 25th.

That's barely more than a month's sample size

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

I cannot believe they tied that damn game.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?????

Why?

Spoiler: Cuz...

 

[NernieBichols]

In fairness we screwed ourselves with our usual last minute push for loser points. Not like we went in as the favorites and underachieved.

We just find creative new ways to share the misery.

That’s not the right way for athletes and competitors to roll. They are gonna play to tie every game they’re down in and they are gonna play to hold to the lead in every game they are up. Otherwise your Edmonton buffalo of Arizona from years back

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I don't think this is true.

I don't want to speak for anyone else, but this was commonly viewed as a bottom 10 team which would slip post deadline, thats exactly what they were.

This was seen as a bottom team in the league (not just bottom 10) that could surprise people and be around 10. Being around 10 was always considered to be a possibility, albeit a slightly surprising one. Which is my point. This teamw as at or above ten for most of the season. This was absolutely a surprise. How close they were in games was ALSO a surprise. You're ignoring that to talk about the record alone

We are 4 wins away from the 11 spot after bottoming out

We were well on track to finish near a playoff spot before trading away key guys, losing others to injury and bottoming out. People remarked on how much better this team was playing compared to expectations all season. Idk how you could pretend like this isn't true

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

For such an astute guy you don’t get the way athletes and competitors roll. They are gonna play to tie every game they’re down in and they are gonna play to hold to the lead in every game they are up. Otherwise your Edmonton buffalo of Arizona from years back

Na @Edge gets it. He just insists on being diplomatic.

He's just dying to tell these noobs to GTFO OMG pls KYS

 

[will1066]

I cannot believe they tied that damn game.

WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY?????

Last night I predicted you going crazy.

 

[NernieBichols]

Anyway, if you guys really wanted them to tank, Quinn should have been playing hank more down the stretch and not riding and letting Georgie build a hot streak. You guys blaming anything else is really hfboards. They weren’t tanking obviously or else they would have kept playing hank under the guise of letting him go for 20.

Real talk

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

That’s not the right way for athletes and competitors to roll. They are gonna play to tie every game they’re down in and they are gonna play to hold to the lead in every game they are up. Otherwise your Edmonton buffalo of Arizona from years back

You failed hard to read between the lines there. He's talking from a fan perspective. This does not indicate that he fails to understand that athletes try hard to win

 

[ReggieDunlop68]

Anyway, if you guys really wanted them to tank, Quinn should have been playing hank more down the stretch and not riding and letting Georgie build a hot streak. You guys blaming anything else is really hfboards. They weren’t tanking obviously or else they would have kept playing hank under the guise of letting him go for 20.

Real talk

Idk...

Maybe they really wanted to tank for first, but remember the Rangers are the "40 year old virgins" of First OA draft picks. They've never had one, so maybe they feel intimidated, or are just holding out for the right one.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Anyway, if you guys really wanted them to tank, Quinn should have been playing hank more down the stretch and not riding and letting Georgie build a hot streak. You guys blaming anything else is really hfboards. They weren’t tanking obviously or else they would have kept playing hank under the guise of letting him go for 20.

Real talk

You're right. Letting a young G play on a team that is developing youngsters certainly shows that they are NOT tanking

Trading their best players away for 2 seasons in a row? Compared to letting a young G play on a developing team? Bah. Practically meaningless. Clearly the G playing outweighs trading away all of your best vets

 

[NernieBichols]

You failed hard to read between the lines there. He's talking from a fan perspective. This does not indicate that he fails to understand that athletes try hard to win

This isn’t directed it you or edge. But that first sentence is like calling the tea kettle black. This board fails to read between the lines on everything and wastes energy bc of it. Becomes unreadable bc of it. I find myself instead actually going In the post history of mikos, Bobbop, BBKers, rangersboy, and yes edge. Bc that’s where the good stuff lies, that and the responding posts that come from theirs posts or the posts they are responding to in the first place.

Reading through these boards is an exercise in not getting hooked by something that makes me want to instantly respond to like wtf are you talking about

 

[NernieBichols]

You're right. Letting a young G play on a team that is developing youngsters certainly shows that they are NOT tanking

Trading their best players away for 2 seasons in a row? Compared to letting a young G play on a developing team? Bah. Practically meaningless. Clearly the G playing outweighs trading away all of your best vets

Talk about failing to read between the lines. Geez

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

Talk about failing to read between the lines. Geez

This is the internet. What's more it's HF. If you don't think you need a then you have a way higher opinion of thisplace than you should.

That said, I should've considered the "real talk" line.