Post-Game Talk: Leafs win in regulation. Woll Hurt

[Evilhomer]

You're not obligated to read or comment on every post.
It doesn't take long to figure out who's posts to selectively ignore and just scroll past.

Fair point.

 

[therealkoho]

He played tonight?

Not really, but the guy wearing his sweater did a fairly meh approximation!.

 

[therealkoho]

Plus 2 and an assist.

Id say your posts are way more embarrassing than 91

Yeah I don't get it, almost as baffling as the Marner haters.

^^^^^^^^^<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>^^^^^^^^^

 

[MilkofthePoppy]

If Nylander wants 11 million sit him down and show him the tape of his two pathetic clearing attempts yesterday. Pathetic.

 

[therealkoho]

I wouldn't mind a coaching change or a trade. I just don't trust Treliving to do either.

Figures Woll would get injured after doing his best Cujo impression .

Ugly win, but i still think we'll have a better shot in the playoffs than these Steelers.

That was Belfour level tending!

 

[Auston Marlander]

This thread is about the game not peoples posting style.

Why not discuss the game like everyone else instead of whining about their opinions of it?

It is about the game. They won one thanks to a teammate..the goalie. That's a good thing and it's painful to see "fans" bitch and conpalin about everything. It makes this place miserable.

 

[ACC1224]

It is about the game. They won one thanks to a teammate..the goalie. That's a good thing and it's painful to see "fans" bitch and conpalin about everything. It makes this place miserable.

Don't know what to tell you, seems kind of childish to hope that those you find painful will change just to make you happy.
Any place I find miserable, I don't visit. That's always an option.

Yes, Woll played great, many have said that.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Not sure how unlikely it is. They are currently on pace for 107 points despite their issues.

We're now a .500 team in regulation with a goal differential that's barely positive, and the reason we have so many points is that we've been on the positive side of variance in OT. Does this seem sustainable to you?

Check their record since I sent they would go on a run.

I have no interest in digging through your posts to find your predictions and they're pretty much all the same anyway. I do admire your everlasting optimism though.

 

[Da Mash]

https://x.com/watchmyreview/status/1733147829160362125?s=46&t=VgEtxxkCOAdmAtKdMrg7oQ

This is such a true quote from a Leaf player:

"Toronto is a funny team. Before losing to Boston in a crazy overtime last Saturday, the Maple Leafs were 6-1-1 in their previous eight games. A couple of players were half-laughing, half-rolling their eyes at the perception of their group.

“Any other team with that record missing three defencemen would be praised for finding a way,” one said. “Here …

 

[egd27]

Remember all the times we played well and lost because of a goalie getting hot?

Of course.
That's when the usual suspects tell us about how crappy the team with the hot goalie is and that they were incredibly lucky to get the win.

 

[therealkoho]

My problem is we lose a game where we absolutely dominated and people are upset, we win a game where we're outplayed and people are still complaining. This site is basically for complainers, posititive people have no place here, kinda disgusting and not really for me tbh.

Although I find the site a little hard to take sometime as long as you don't take any of it seriously, you soon find out if your anti-depressants are working or not.

Well that's depressing.

See above

Do be you watch other NHL games not involving the Leafs? I ask because I suspect if you did you would see all of the same things you are complaining about. This is what the league is now. Lots of scoring chances, generally poor defensive play, etc. All of things you are moaning about when it comes to the Leafs are the same things other fans are complaining about. Just look at any of the games from the last few nights. Show me all of the defensively dominant teams. The difference is that the Leafs keep winning, to the point of having one of the best winning percentages in the league. Every team, including the one you are complaining about, will tighten up defensively in the playoffs.

I for one watch a lot of games, and you sir are wrong. Either that or you're setting up a false narrative to drive the LeaFlanders batty. You and I both know out of market Dmen never ever make poor decisions in their own ends. Forwards and even top 6 forwards never give away pucks.

Furthermore if you've ever watched teams such as Edmonton, Colorado, LA, the Rags and possibly Florida you'd come to the inescapable conclusion that the Matthews legend is largely deserved and that he is the greatest living shinny player on the planet and alive today! It is also more than likely that he is way underpaid and has done the Leafs a huge service by taking as much as a 40% discount or more on his services. I can't even begin to count the players that have won huge contracts by merely being close to his beneficence.

 

[All Mod Cons]

https://x.com/watchmyreview/status/1733147829160362125?s=46&t=VgEtxxkCOAdmAtKdMrg7oQ

This is such a true quote from a Leaf player:

"Toronto is a funny team. Before losing to Boston in a crazy overtime last Saturday, the Maple Leafs were 6-1-1 in their previous eight games. A couple of players were half-laughing, half-rolling their eyes at the perception of their group.

“Any other team with that record missing three defencemen would be praised for finding a way,” one said. “Here …

I like this one, and I'm glad he is aware of it:

Treliving pointed out during his interview with Justin and Nick that Toronto has spent a lot of assets chasing the Stanley Cup the last few years. It wasn’t a criticism, simply a recognition of what the organization was trying to accomplish. Eventually, the well runs dry. That’s a hint. Toronto is trying to be careful, particularly for a rental

 

[Jojalu]

If Nylander wants 11 million sit him down and show him the tape of his two pathetic clearing attempts yesterday. Pathetic.

I am not advocating for Nylander to get 11 million, but you can break down tape of every player on the planet and find the same mistakes.

 

[Suntouchable13]

https://x.com/watchmyreview/status/1733147829160362125?s=46&t=VgEtxxkCOAdmAtKdMrg7oQ

This is such a true quote from a Leaf player:

"Toronto is a funny team. Before losing to Boston in a crazy overtime last Saturday, the Maple Leafs were 6-1-1 in their previous eight games. A couple of players were half-laughing, half-rolling their eyes at the perception of their group.

“Any other team with that record missing three defencemen would be praised for finding a way,” one said. “Here …

In Toronto we know that celebrating a few shootout wins in November/December means nothing come playoff time. Everybody is missing guys too, not just Toronto. 6-1-1 propped up by shootout wins is not really indicative of the playoff preparedness of this group. Everybody knows it’s all about playoffs. If you want to build statues for some shootout wins, the go ahead. Tonight was actually a good win despite being out chanced and outplayed.

 

[therealkoho]

A+
Joe Woll, Domi line

A
Knies, Reilly

B
JT, MM, McCabe

B-
Will, Timmins, Benoit

C-
4th line, Bert, Matthews, Lajoie

D
The rest of the D(you know who)

 

[Da Mash]

In Toronto we know that celebrating a few shootout wins in November/December means nothing come playoff time. Everybody is missing guys too, not just Toronto. 6-1-1 propped up by shootout wins is not really indicative of the playoff preparedness of this group. Everybody knows it’s all about playoffs. If you want to build statues for some shootout wins, the go ahead. Tonight was actually a good win despite being out chanced and outplayed.

Don’t you think it’s still to early? We still have 50 games to play to prepare for playoffs.

Statues? Isn’t Tie Domi and Tucker icon in Toronto ? And they won squat.

I rather be positive then doom and gloom 23 games in the season and 7 pts behind the almighty Bruins with 2 games in hand

 

[A1LeafNation]

Torn Labrum out 6 months is what it could be

 

[Gary Nylund]

In Toronto we know that celebrating a few shootout wins in November/December means nothing come playoff time. Everybody is missing guys too, not just Toronto. 6-1-1 propped up by shootout wins is not really indicative of the playoff preparedness of this group. Everybody knows it’s all about playoffs. If you want to build statues for some shootout wins, the go ahead. Tonight was actually a good win despite being out chanced and outplayed.

People are making way too much of our injuries. Funny how a year ago our injury issues were much worse and we had a record breaking November anyway.

This time around, Liljegren is the only missing player of consequence. Gio is old and not that good any more and losing Klingberg improves our D if anything. Now if Woll is out for an extended period of time, that's a different story and the smart thing to do if that's the case is probably to write off the season and sell off our pending UFA's (except Nylander).

Last year's team finished with a regulation PTS% of .628, so far this season we're at .500.

Last year's team finished with a goal differential of +57, this season we're on pace to finish with +12.

It's hilarious that so many people are bamboozled by our place in the standings which is all smoke and mirrors. Even after winning last night, our goal differential is still worse than bottom feeder Ottawa's FFS. Like O'Dog said - this is not a serious hockey team.

Enjoy our unsustainable positive run in OT/Shootouts while you can people but don't kid yourself, it won't last and in the playoffs, regulation hockey is all there is.

 

[Larcos_Unal]

If he "gets going," will he be on pace for more than 57 goals?

Some people look at the stat line, I like to watch the games. This year's Matthews is nowhere close to the Matthews we're used to.

The fact he's scoring that much while half-assing it is a testament to his skillset. He's got way more to give though, he's not at his best.

 

[All Mod Cons]

I'm getting the feeling that a large group of fans are suddenly coming to the realization that this team isn't good enough to win the Stanley Cup. Which is simply shocking to me, because it implies that up until now, they did.

 

[Hellcat]

Remember all the times we played well and lost becuase if a goalie getting hit? Sometimes the team will have bad games. Infact they have only had a few great games and are at a 100+ point pace. They haven't played in almost a week and the Sens are playing the best they will all year.

People are looking for issues vs being happy we finally had a goalie steal one for us. I have a feeling we could go 82-0, sweeping the playoffs and people will complain that they won't do it again next year.

This place is so mentally fragile it's pathetic. Enjoy the fact we won and move on to the next one.

The issue is not that he stole a game, the issue is that he HAD to steal a game and we have looked like shit in almost every game but the Minny game. This team is better than a team, that just/only relies on a goalie to steal every game. Players will have career nights, players will overachieve but that cant be the game plan, there has to be puck management, there has to be some sort of control. Fans are not bitching about an 82-0 team, they are concerned a Stanley cup contender does not look like a Stanley cup contender.

 

[Sypher04]

People are making way too much of our injuries. Funny how a year ago our injury issues were much worse and we had a record breaking November anyway.

This time around, Liljegren is the only missing player of consequence. Gio is old and not that good any more and losing Klingberg improves our D if anything. Now if Woll is out for an extended period of time, that's a different story and the smart thing to do if that's the case is probably to write off the season and sell off our pending UFA's (except Nylander).

Last year's team finished with a regulation PTS% of .628, so far this season we're at .500.

Last year's team finished with a goal differential of +57, this season we're on pace to finish with +12.

It's hilarious that so many people are bamboozled by our place in the standings which is all smoke and mirrors. Even after winning last night, our goal differential is still worse than bottom feeder Ottawa's FFS. Like O'Dog said - this is not a serious hockey team.

Enjoy our unsustainable positive run in OT/Shootouts while you can people but don't kid yourself, it won't last and in the playoffs, regulation hockey is all there is.

No we aren’t. If people don’t understand how our defense, which at the onset of the season was already thin and needing to be upgraded, now missing 3 of their to 6 guys is significant then that’s purely on them.

Yes, they found a way to win through issues last year. They are doing the same this year, albeit differently and more pronounced issues.

Saying Gio missing is of little consequence is laughable. He’s still a good defender when he’s not being overused. And Klingberg while he was hurt and never found his game, he may not be missed for those reasons, but the role he was supposed to fill remains noticeably vacant, so it’s still highly relevant.

Nobody thinks we look as good as last year right now, so not really going to argue any of the last part. There’s still 60 games left almost for us to sort out our issues and upgrade the personnel.

No one is bamboozled by our standings. We’re well aware of the issues. It does say something about the group however they are still finding ways to win. That should be encouraging as much as we should also be concerned in other areas.

 

[Gary Nylund]

No one is bamboozled by our standings. We’re well aware of the issues. It does say something about the group however they are still finding ways to win. That should be encouraging as much as we should also be concerned in other areas.

There seem to be many, many people bamboozled by where we are in the standings.

Finding ways to win in regulation hockey, that's always a positive thing. Finding ways to win in 3on3 OT and shootouts is nothing more than positive variance and means absolutely nothing.

 

[Hellcat]

People are making way too much of our injuries. Funny how a year ago our injury issues were much worse and we had a record breaking November anyway.

If one is being honest with themselves, we are missing our #5, #6 and #7 d-men, a goalie who has played exceptionally poorly, a goalie who has not found his game this year and a #3/#4, that d-man we have not had for over a year. TBH if you were going to pick the guys you would be OK with if they got injured, you couldn't do it any better, Muzzin hurts but everyone else, who cares? Our core has been healthy, they are who drives the bus, not bottom the pairing d-men.

The problem is and will always be a coach who is not able to manage the details of the game. We are a sloppy team, a team that cannot, will not execute on the coaches plan. Coach Q please.

 

[Sypher04]

If one is being honest with themselves, we are missing our #5, #6 and #7 d-men, a goalie who has played exceptionally poorly, a goalie who has not found his game this year and a #3/#4, that d-man we have not had for over a year. TBH if you were going to pick the guys you would be OK with if they got injured, you couldn't do it any better, Muzzin hurts but everyone else, who cares? Our core has been healthy, they are who drives the bus, not bottom the pairing d-men.

The problem is and will always be a coach who is not able to manage the details of the game. We are a sloppy team, a team that cannot, will not execute on the coaches plan. Coach Q please.

I don’t think anyone is really talking about injuries in the forward group, for the reasons you cited. They’ve been pretty healthy. Just D & now G. Nobody is trying to make them into the biggest deal in the world, but for a team that was on paper already not very good on the backend at full health, losing even a 5, 6 and 7 and some of the roles they served in the lineup is still fairly noteworthy.