Post-Game Talk: Leafs take it 3-2!

[ACC1224]

This is incorrect. I don’t see why people do this.

A hockey game is 60 min of 5 on 5 hockey

At the end of 60 minutes. You are tied. This is how it was for like 50 years.

Then they added 4 on 4 and 3 on 3 ot.

Those took away ties.

You didn’t lose if you aren’t behind after 60 minutes. Baseball doesn’t have a loss column because they keep playing the same game over and over until someone wins.

Baseball was decided by a home run derby or basketball by a game of horse. They would have a seperate category

However the record is formatted it shouldn’t be seen as good enough.

 

[Darcy Tucker]

They already have that so there is no hope then?

For playoff success? Or for the players to play with their hearts and not their wallets in mind?

 

[ACC1224]

For playoff success? Or for the players to play with their hearts and not their wallets in mind?

If money is their greatest motivator, all of the above

 

[willmma]

When we refer to .500, we are referring to point %.

Saying we are 3 games above .500 is technically and absolutely correct.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

However the record is formatted it shouldn’t be seen as good enough.

Isn't the bottom line that, based on the system they have in place right now, the Leafs are near the top of the standings? Maybe they'd try harder for a regulation win in some of those games if the system was different? It's kinda like people dismissing election results because of first-past-the-post or electoral colleges. The candidates may have used entirely different strategies if they were competing in a different system and won anyway. "Don't hate the player, hate the game."

 

[Nineteen67]

Can someone tell us why they will not take the puck to he net when they’re in close and there’s a path open for them? Quit trying to score highlight goals, because they’re getting them in the playoffs.

Engvall eventually scored after he circled the net and carried the puck back towards the blue line ( which he should never do the way he handles the puck), but prior to that he had a path where he could have cut out front and created a scrum.

Kerfoot, same thing in the 3rd.
Malgin or Kampf, same deal
Marner does it 10 times per game.

 

[Twine Tickler]

That was for the complete legend Borje. Wish I were old enough to have gotten to see you play. It's abundantly clear how much you care about our beloved Leafs. It's something I think our current group could learn a thing or 2 about. As hard as playing in Toronto may be, we are the most loyal fanbase in pro sport. Once a Leaf, always a Leaf.

T's a P's to the Salming family, it has been heartbreaking for all of us to see Borje's health decline so rapidly right before our eyes. Hopefully he can make it to June and our current players can win a mug in his honor.

Good on Sheldon for starting an all Swede lineup. Makes more sense now to give Kallgren the nod on the second half of the B2B. It's a subtle thing to do, but you know the boys in the room knew how big this mid November game was when the coach puts that narrative on the line before puck drop. Slow start, but the boys came to play for Borje in the end.

I'm proud of that showing personally, they should be as well.

ALl the best Borje, we are all thinking of you!

 

[KPower]

When we refer to .500, we are referring to point %.

Saying we are 3 games above .500 is technically and absolutely correct.

23 teams are .500, 9 are below.

It’s ridiculously flawed to prop up garbage teams.

 

[Gary Nylund]

That was for the complete legend Borje. Wish I were old enough to have gotten to see you play. It's abundantly clear how much you care about our beloved Leafs. It's something I think our current group could learn a thing or 2 about. As hard as playing in Toronto may be, we are the most loyal fanbase in pro sport. Once a Leaf, always a Leaf.

T's a P's to the Salming family, it has been heartbreaking for all of us to see Borje's health decline so rapidly right before our eyes. Hopefully he can make it to June and our current players can win a mug in his honor.

Good on Sheldon for starting an all Swede lineup. Makes more sense now to give Kallgren the nod on the second half of the B2B. It's a subtle thing to do, but you know the boys in the room knew how big this mid November game was when the coach puts that narrative on the line before puck drop. Slow start, but the boys came to play for Borje in the end.

I'm proud of that showing personally, they should be as well.

ALl the best Borje, we are all thinking of you!

Once a Leaf, always a Leaf. Well said my good man, and wouldn't that be great if our current group learned how special a hockey town this is. Win in the playoffs, become immortal. GLG, and god bless you Borje!!

 

[Puckstuff]

When we refer to .500, we are referring to point %.

Saying we are 3 games above .500 is technically and absolutely correct.

No it's not. If you're going by points percentage then you could say 1.5 games above .500 because you get 1 point for OTL not 2.

 

[BigGulpsEh]

When we refer to .500, we are referring to point %.

Saying we are 3 games above .500 is technically and absolutely correct.

its factually and mathematically incorrect

How does it even makes sense to say 3 games above .500 when referring to point %

They have 19 of possible 32 points. Thats 3 points above .500. Not 3 games.

 

[Habs10Habs]

The Salming tribute has been the best this franchise has done. Usually they find a way of goofing this stuff up but it was pure class this time. I'm reading all over the place about rival fans crying their eyes out.

Knowing there was going to be a tribute to Salming before the game. I purposely missed the beginning of my own teams game. Something I've rarely done in the past.

I did my best to keep my emotions in check. While they showed some of the Leafs past greats reactions. Though I have to admit, once I saw Sittler in tears. I couldn't hold back after that. Seeing Salming's wonderful reaction to the crowd. The flood gates were wide open.

Salming was one hell of a player. More importantly he's a wonderful human being. As difficult as it is to see him going through this. Being able to see how happy and appreciative he was. Turned my tears into happy tears.

Great job Toronto!

 

[Gary Nylund]

The 3 point games have made everything a bit confusing. Simplest to say that PTS% is what counts, and we're 11th overall.

 

[willmma]

its factually and mathematically incorrect

How does it even makes sense to say 3 games above .500 when referring to point %

They have 19 of possible 32 points. Thats 3 points above .500. Not 3 games.

For example. A team played first game of the season and lost. Now they have 0 points in 1 game. They are one game below 500. 1 point is equivalent to one game.

The team played 2 more games and won both. They have 4 points in 3 games. Essential the first win puts them at 500, and the other win puts them at 1 game above 500. 1 point above 500 is one game above 500.

Say a team played 12 game. 6 wins and 6 losses. 500. Then they win the 13th game. Now they played 13 games. They get 2 points. First point puts them at 13 points in 13 games. The second point puts them at 14 points in 13 games.


1 point above or below 500 is 1 game above or below 500

 

[Cap'n Flavour]

I mean... they barely friggin won against a team who is held together with bandaids with an AHL goalie.

No, the Canucks lost.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Meh. We've won 8 games, and we've lost 8 games. Yes, we're "technically" 3 games up due to otl's, but we all know that in reality, we're a .500 team right now. Not a good start to the year. I'm not too worried, though as injuries will do that and we've had a lot of those so far. Should improve so that we can soon have an INDISPUTABLE winning record. Regular season should be fine. Post season is a different story.

That's a really dumb way of looking at it. You don't anything for otl's, you get a point for achieving a tie in regulation.

 

[willmma]

No it's not. If you're going by points percentage then you could say 1.5 games above .500 because you get 1 point for OTL not 2.

Listen, They played 16 games and have 19 points. They are 3 points above 500.

I'm upset about all the losses including the OTLs. But that doesn't change the math. By making it to OT they earned a point. It counts whether we like it or not.

You can say they have 8 wins and 8 losses but you can't say they are not 3 above 500.

 

[Obo]

Also good for marketing when the OTL system makes all teams look more successful than they are.

As of this morning...

20 teams have more points than gp
3 teams have the same number of points as gp
9 teams have fewer points than gp

Easier to sell tickets when almost two-thirds of the league is "above average".

 

[Gary Nylund]

LOL. Nice. You kiss your mother with that mouth?

Anyway, a loss is still a loss. Getting an OTL "tie point" while giving up 2 points doesn't change that.

Nope. There's a big difference between a regulation loss, and a game that ends in a tie earning both teams one point before the nonsense starts and one team gets a gimmick point.

 

[Puckstuff]

Listen, They played 16 games and have 19 points. They are 3 points above 500.

I'm upset about all the losses including the OTLs. But that doesn't change the math. By making it to OT they earned a point. It counts whether we like it or not.

You can say they have 8 wins and 8 losses but you can't say they are not 3 above 500.

I'm not sure if you're yanking my chain now. You're not actually serious right?

You said their 3 games above .500 which they are not. A game = 2 points. Three games above .500 would mean they are 6 points (3 wins) above .500 which they are not.

2 points = 1 win/ 1 game.
1 point = 0.5 wins/0.5 games.

The leafs are 3 points above .500.

3 points = 1.5 wins.

The leafs are 1.5 games above .500

 

[Gallagbi]

its factually and mathematically incorrect

How does it even makes sense to say 3 games above .500 when referring to point %

They have 19 of possible 32 points. Thats 3 points above .500. Not 3 games.

Its been the common phrasing in the NHL forever. Wins over losses back when ties were a thing and now its wins over regulation loss. Not worth arguing over the semantics when everyone who follows the sport knows that x number of games over .500 doesnt account for OTLs.

 

[Stephen]

The Salming tribute has been the best this franchise has done. Usually they find a way of goofing this stuff up but it was pure class this time. I'm reading all over the place about rival fans crying their eyes out.

That was a very emotional and heartfelt ceremony.

 

[WillyC]

Jordie Benn for the Norris

 

[Legion34]

No it's not. If you're going by points percentage then you could say 1.5 games above .500 because you get 1 point for OTL not 2.

Ok soooo if a team lost 82 games in the shootout.
0-0 for 82 games

Are they 500? Or 0? Or 41 games below 500?

Can a goalie never let in a goal and be 0-82? Or are they now 0-41?

 

[willmma]

I'm not sure if you're yanking my chain now. You're not actually serious right?

You said their 3 games above .500 which they are not. A game = 2 points. Three games above .500 would mean they are 6 points (3 wins) above .500 which they are not.

2 points = 1 win/ 1 game.
1 point = 0.5 wins/0.5 games.

The leafs are 3 points above .500.

3 points = 1.5 wins.

The leafs are 1.5 games above .500

I'll try one last time

If a team plays 3 games and wins 2. That means they won 2 games and lost 1. That means the won 1 game more than they lost. 1 game above 500

In that scenario they have 4 points in 3 games. Every point they have more than the games played is a game above 500.

Yes, each win earns 2 points but it also adds 1 game played. So the win only nets 1 new point above games played.

3 points ABOVE GAMES PLAYED is three wins.