Post-Game Talk: Leafs Stun the Bruins 4-3
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ODAAT
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Let's offer Florida a 2nd rounder...bring back Timmah
I`ll take Gudbranson if Tallon would allow for it??
"b's" should of won this game, immature team like the leafs with no experience just legs, slow the pace of the game take their legs away and they're done its that simple. Some great hits late in the 3rd was expecting more at the start of the game, great hit on JVR should of hit him harder and taken him out of the game or the rest of the season. I think theres one more match up with these teams I'm expecting a blow out win on the next one. Gosh its hard to stomach a lose against this team its one of the teams I hate most, bunch of childish losers.
Greek_physique
Caron - Legit SNIPER
While Rask wasn't dominate, with the exception Bozak's 1st goal....which other ones were his fault?
That Gardiner goal, while he was 1-1 with the shooter, the Leafs had great puck movement on that PP and Rask was hung out to dry IMO.
Rask can be better...but so can his teammates. Boychuk on that 2nd Bozak goal was lost!
MTaylorJ1
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So...you are now assuming we have reached or will reach the ECF/SCF?? hmm, I`m assuming you are viewing Brandon Sutter`s 16-17pts in almost 50 games as one baromoter, then I`ll have a peek at the Hawks as the other comparable who rotate Handzus as their 3rd, or have Pirri there (Pirri is an exceptionally talented player by the way if ya haven`t seen him), Handzus has 10pts in 30ish games.
Make no mistake about it, the success or production of the 3rd line is 100% dependant upon what the top 2 lines have done in the past when this 3rd has been at it`s most dangerous (been a while since we have said that)
When at it`s most productive, the B`s top 2 lines were big time handfulls to deal with, other teams scrambled to put a line out to stop them, then the B`s counter with a Kelly/Pevs/Ryder or whomever, and opponents had NOTHING to answer with. Last season was what last season was, a lockout year in which I put zero stock into anything. This season, Kelly was playing solid hockey (solid doesn`t = pts) with Sods and at that time, Smith, then Kelly`s injury happened.
What Spooner offers is an offensive threat up the middle out of the center position (nice), what Spooner is still working on, is his strength and defensive positioning (which aren`t where they need to be for CJ to be 100% trusting) which is hardly an issue with a young prospect still learning.
Again, many here scoff at the intangible aspect of what certain players bring, Chia (ya know, the guy making decisions
I`m not saying Kelly isn`t or won`t be replaced before the end of his contract, but the way he is undervalued here is silly IMO, much the way Seids was far too often. Chris Kelly isn`t Wayne Primeau or Steve Begin, Kelly is an exceptionally responsible player playing for a coach who loves responsible players, and when he produces, it`s considered a bonus, not an expected event.
When he returns, who knows what will happen.
Hawks also have Kruger, Kings have Stoll, Ducks have Koivu, Sharks can run Pavelski out there.
Kelly was generally a 30pt player pre lockout. He's been nowhere near that since, and I don't buy dismissing lockout numbers since plenty of players were able to produce last year. 30pts would be the minimum I'd expect from a 3rd line center on a contending team, and that's in addition to great defense and PK ability, and honestly, I've only seen him play good defense this year. It's also a matter of fit and linemates, Soderberg and Eriksson are gifted offensive players. Saddling them with Kelly is sub-optimal at best.
Seidenberg has been our 2nd best defenseman since his acquisition, Kelly probably between our 8th and 10th best forward depending on who is in the lineup, comparing how they're undervalued is kind of a stretch. Seids is a great example of a guy who does the little things AND produces. Kelly has become a guy who just does the little things. Which is great, useful and I want him in the lineup in the right spot as long as his cap hit isn't preventing us from improving elsewhere.
It's more about the body of his work lately, He's let in to many bad goals at bad times in games that have just killed this team.
As far as hung out to dry ? Dont wont to call you a rask apologist but, to many puck going under his glove and over his shoulders.
Rask needs to get his act together and soon
CombatOnContact
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Let's offer Florida a 2nd rounder...bring back Timmah
I'm not even joking... I would make a call to see if he's available if I were Chiarelli.
I'd also look at bringing back Khudobin and see what the cost would be there.
my view from last night's game...
PK
(miss you Seids)
PP
Like you Tuukka but 2 of those you should have stopped
Bergy line
I hope the B's solve the hole in the D soon. (miss you Seids)
It was nice to see PJ. We could have used him on the PK last night.
PK
(miss you Seids)PP
Like you Tuukka but 2 of those you should have stopped
Bergy line
I hope the B's solve the hole in the D soon. (miss you Seids)
It was nice to see PJ. We could have used him on the PK last night.
He did make a decent stop on that tweed kadri. Sometimes its the team as whole that motivates the goal tending it works as a unit. If the d is playing and the rest of the team is hustling it reflects on the goalies. A couple of big hits a few great defencive plays can be enough to spark the goaltending. Plain and simple they gave the leafs too much room out their last night, let them skate too much and you shut down the whole team.
Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
Would be fun if the 1st line show up on the scoresheet from time to time...
January stats:
Krejci 1pt
Iginla 2pts
Lucic 1pt
January stats:
Krejci 1pt
Iginla 2pts
Lucic 1pt
my view from last night's game...
PK
PP
Like you Tuukka but 2 of those you should have stopped
Bergy line
I hope the B's solve the hole in the D soon. (miss you Seids)
Was the crowd actually booing or was it when Kessel touched the puck ? I only ask because you seem to go to the games.
Jack (getting tired of his act) made it sound like it was raining boo birds all night.
Greek_physique
Caron - Legit SNIPER
This is a constant with the Bruins every year in the Regular Season...a different line carries this team.
Greek_physique
Caron - Legit SNIPER
I didn't even notice the crowd until late in the 3rd period after Boychuk killed JVR.
Scotto74
taking a break
that is what depth is all about. What if Chia put all his eggs into the first line and they go cold and there is no one else pick up the slack.
I agree they need to put points up but I thought the line looked pretty good last night. Lucic robbed on the doorstep of the crease on the PP and then he hit a post. Krejci hit a post as well didn't he?
Take a peak around the league and you wont find a 3rd line centerman being flanked my the likes of Eriksson and Soderberg.
I guarantee you no one expects that type 11/12 production from Kelly. This broken down 33 year old version of Kelly with multiple lower body injuries isn't even capable of being the 25-30 point guy the rest of his career suggests he is. That Chris Kelly is still under qualified to be centering two top-6 wingers. I'm sorry, but intangibles don't make up for the fact that he's virtually useless as an offensive player. He belongs with Paille and Campbell.
Spooner was trash last night. First time all season he's looked overwhelmed. If it starts to go down hill, maybe time to explore the option of Soderberg at C and acquiring a veteran winger.
rickizbruin
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Not worried just yet... over 82 games.. all teams go through a slump.
Now if they drop below the Habs... trade everyone !!!
my view from last night's game...
PK
PP
Like you Tuukka but 2 of those you should have stopped
Bergy line
I hope the B's solve the hole in the D soon. (miss you Seids)
It was nice to see PJ. We could have used him on the PK last night.
Great to see him on TV- he looked like he could still play
GloryDaze4877
Barely Irrelevant
Agreed
But I have long been on an island it feels in my man crush on Kelly and his value to this team
Like Kelly, but the F's were not the problem last night on the PK, the D was.
Chara and Boychuk not moving their feet and leaving JVR and Bozak uncovered in front was the issue (5 on 5 as well). Lately, it seems like every time the B's make a mistake, it winds up in the net (some due to Rask, others not), while on offense the B's are hitting posts and "just missing".
I realize Sides is out, but there is no excuse for some of the mental errors the D is committing. Physical errors, such as pucks bouncing over sticks, happen, but leaving guys uncovered should not.
Rask could/should have had the 3rd and 4th goals IMO, but the B's players (primarily the D) were also standing around, which is what allowed JVR to get into the slot to begin with.
My biggest concern is the PK and who can fill in with Seids out.
...I am a little worried about Tuukka but think he will be OK.
Mr. Make-Believe
The happy genius of my household
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Spooner plays a couple of sub-par games and people long for Kelly back on that line. Sounds about right.
If it's a trend that continues until "The Cage" is ready to go, then I'll agree. But overall, he's been real good and it's not a thought I'll entertain until he plays himself off of that line.
Spooner plays a couple of sub-par games and people long for Kelly back on that line. Sounds about right.
If it's a trend that continues until "The Cage" is ready to go, then I'll agree. But overall, he's been real good and it's not a thought I'll entertain until he plays himself off of that line.
Why don't you go and tell that to the rest of the team?
Yes, Tuukka has been bad lately, but he certainly isn't the only one.
Depends...do we get the post lockout version of Chris Kelly? Because that's not one I'm interested in depending on in a top 9 role.
Did you know there was only 1 series that Kelly didn't have a negative +/- last year? One. That was Pittsburgh, the team that we allowed 2 goals against.
He was -4 against Toronto, -1 against NY(not lying to you there), even vs. Pitt(also not lying to you there), and -1 against Chicago.
B's as a team? Significantly positive.
If it's not Spooner, then I believe it's a position that may need to be addressed at the deadline as well. Third line is just kelly out of position
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