Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Canada4Gold]

I'm sure Blue Jays excutive is talking about the team in the 3rd person and randomly leaking their intent for no reason whatsoever. This obviously came from elsewhere

 

[Stephen]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1857263273856410038

The Boras camp leaking this so the Yankees pay up.

Jays want Soto but Soto doesn’t want the Jays.

The Jays first offseason priority might be to acquire some dignity before anything else.

 

[Discoverer]

.214 is not average in any league. Sorry, it never has been and never will be average.

More. Than. Just. Batting. Average.

 

[Beaumaris]

f*** me, I can't believe people are still posting stuff like this in 2024.

Varsho is a starter for basically every team in baseball. It isn't even debatable. He's a league-average hitter and the best fielder in the game at a premium position.

Absolutely

f*** me, I can't believe people are still posting stuff like this in 2024.

Varsho is a starter for basically every team in baseball. It isn't even debatable. He's a league-average hitter and the best fielder in the game at a premium position.

You couldn’t be more correct

 

[MS]

He is an average hitter but on the last page, two places away from the bottom of the league of qualified hitters on mlb.com for batting average... your definition of average and the dictionary's definition are clearly different. .214 BA is not "average". https://www.mlb.com/stats/batting-average?page=6

Using batting average to determine who is an effective MLB hitter is like using goal totals to determine who is an effective NHL defenseman.

His OPS+ was 99. He's a league average hitter.

 

[GreytWun]

Using batting average to determine who is an effective MLB hitter is like using goal totals to determine who is an effective NHL defenseman.

His OPS+ was 99. He's a league average hitter.

He had a 98 OPS+ last year. The year before he had a 84 OPS+

100 is average.

 

[MS]

He had a 98 OPS+ last year. The year before he had a 84 OPS+

100 is average.

He's a tiny smidge below average both last season and for his career, which is 'average' to any reasonable definition.

 

[saska sault]

Varsho is not a concern. If he stays what he is, he is still a great asset. Hopefully his bat picks up a hair, I'm sure no fan will complain.

Get Vlad signed now!!! I feel any serious impact player with term wants an idea of how this team will look in a few years. You have what your entire rebuild was based on ready to walk into free agency... Vlad and Bo.

I'd put Soto chances at 15%... Likely we are used to bring the price up, but always a chance. Really think the chances increase substantially if you get Vlad here long term also.

 

[phillipmike]

The Jays first offseason priority might be to acquire some dignity before anything else.

 

[landy92mack29]

Yeah Soto would be awesome but I'd rather have some clarity on Guerrero+Bichette's future with the team....hopefully both signed to long term deals with us

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Just don't understand why its taken so long for these clowns to sign Vladdy and perhaps Bo.
Were not getting Soto.
Its gonna be another lousy season season with a lousy farm club.

Excuse my negative attitude today. I'm in a "Shane" pissed off mood.

 

[Hellcat]

Using batting average to determine who is an effective MLB hitter is like using goal totals to determine who is an effective NHL defenseman.

His OPS+ was 99. He's a league average hitter.

Terrible analogy on two fronts the Norris tends to go to the Defenceman who generates the most offence and OPS+ not a pure hitting metric.

OPS+ is not a good measurement to gauge the quality of a hitter, OPS+ is an offensive metric not a hitting metric per se. He is not a league average hitter, he is league average with a offence metric.

If you feel .214 is an average BA, would you take a lineup 1 through 9 who hit at a .214 pace?

Just don't understand why its taken so long for these clowns to sign Vladdy and perhaps Bo.
Were not getting Soto.
Its gonna be another lousy season season with a lousy farm club.

Excuse my negative attitude today. I'm in a "Shane" pissed off mood.

You and many other Jays fans.

 

[MS]

Terrible analogy on two fronts the Norris tends to go to the Defenceman who generates the most offence and OPS+ not a pure hitting metric.

OPS+ is not a good measurement to gauge the quality of a hitter as OPS+ is an offensive metric not a hitting metric per se. He is not a league average hitter, he is league average with a offence metric.

If you feel .214 is an average BA, would you take a lineup 1 through 9 who hit at a pace .214?

He's a league average batter, if you want to argue semantics.

Using batting average to evaluate hitters is nearly useless. There are better statistics. Use those.

 

[Hellcat]

He's a league average batter, if you want to argue semantics.

Using batting average to evaluate hitters is nearly useless. There are better statistics. Use those.

Which ones do you prefer?

 

[Amadeus]

We are extremely excited about the possibilities of success our team can achieve objectively and subjectively - Ross Atkins