Phion Keneuf
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He’s clearly a top 4 D based on his offensive presence alone. And he’s average defensively. At least compared to the abomination that is our D core.
He’s not close to Holl in his own end? That’s silly. Holl would constantly get hemmed in due to the fact he had no puck control and a poor first pass. A dman who plays <20mins per night needs to be able to pass the puck. That right there makes Klingberg stronger than Holl in his own end. I’d love to hear your take on what makes Holl a better defender than Klingberg.He's not close to Holl in his own end. The bias against Holl within this fanbase is nuts. He's much better with the puck on his stick though.
That save he made at the point(to keep the puck in) late in the third took A LOT of skill. When I seen that I said to myself "if this guy is playing at that level in the playoffs this team is going deep". Amazing.Rough to start Game 1 but showed his offensive prowess from the point after the second period.
Is it bias or facts, look how many goals he was on for in the playoffs, it wasn’t a mirage of our own making, we were watching pure ass on full display. Holl was garbage, he had spurts of decent play but would regress to awful. I couldn’t miss him less.He's not close to Holl in his own end. The bias against Holl within this fanbase is nuts. He's much better with the puck on his stick though.
He’s not close to Holl in his own end? That’s silly. Holl would constantly get hemmed in due to the fact he had no puck control and a poor first pass. A dman who plays <20mins per night needs to be able to pass the puck. That right there makes Klingberg stronger than Holl in his own end. I’d love to hear your take on what makes Holl a better defender than Klingberg.
And I’ve never been biased against Holl. The guy was overused here, not his problem. He was a good soldier for us, but was not particularly good at anything outside of the PK.
I feel like you’re underrating Klingberg here, he’s superior to Holl in basically every regard.
He's not close to Holl in his own end. The bias against Holl within this fanbase is nuts. He's much better with the puck on his stick though.
But that’s not his only role in the Dallas lineup. Klingberg has shown a new commitment to his defensive game that we have yet to see throughout his career. He’s quick to break up opposing offensive rushes, doesn’t lose his composure when in the defensive zone, and gives up minimal chances alongside partner Esa Lindell.
New head coach Ken Hitchcock is trusting the young defender in a lot of different situations, and it seems to be paying off in a large way. Klingberg owns a +14 rating on the season and is averaging 23:33 of ice time per game. Those numbers are impressive to find in a balanced Dallas defensive lineup. He plays smart and helps his team with each shift.
"Klinger, since the start of the round robin, has been emotionally involved," he said. "He's engaged, he's here to win. You can see his physical play, he had some fantastic hits. What's impressive from a coaching perspective is his willingness to take a hit to make a play. Defensively he's been rock-solid, he moves the puck well, skates so well with it, he's very confident and he's playing great two-way hockey here. He has bought in 100 percent to what we're trying to do here."
Largely overshadowed by Miro Heiskanen’s performance throughout the postseason, Klingberg has been clutch for the Stars, especially in the Cup Final, during which he has a goal and four assists. He has sneaked into the conversation as a potential Conn Smythe Trophy dark horse and has been a key cog for the Stars on the back end as they have asked for more offensive contributions from their defensemen.
Klingberg is strong in transition, moving the puck with long stretch passes. He is aggressive in pinching down in the offensive zone to keep possessions alive. Those traits have their drawbacks, particularly turnovers, but are a big net positive for the Stars. Klingberg is also one of the best defensemen in the league at getting pucks toward the net.
That's pretty optimistic.He is going to be a 65 point all-situations defenseman for the Leafs. They will be able to shield him from some of the tough minutes, and he will get massive ice time when the Leafs are down by a goal or two. He will end up being one of the best UFA (maybe the best after Bertuzzi) signings of the off-season amongst all teams. The Leafs won't be able to afford him after this season, but as with Samsonov it won't matter because he will have filled his purpose.
I don't think so. His last two seasons have been write-offs for various reasons. I think he will easily revert back to his 19/20 form where he was dominant for Dallas in the playoff bubble.That's pretty optimistic.
Health aside, I’d dump Brodie before I let Timmins go to waivers.
He's not close to Holl in his own end. The bias against Holl within this fanbase is nuts. He's much better with the puck on his stick though.
Yes, he’s just in the way of the young guys coming up. If Timmins could stay healthy, I think he’d be a top 4 D with some offense.Brodie is looking rough these days. Like he’s seen a few things.
Brodie is looking rough these days. Like he’s seen a few things.
Right? Guy has been our most reliable d the last 3 years. Underrated doesn't even begin to describe him. He's earned a wait and see approach. All these guys throwing him into trades or wanting to dump him are just gone in the Brain. Look at his advanced stats, guys a solid solid defenseman, hell even if drops off half he's still better than Gio (whom I think he carried when they were partners in Calgary) now...Literally 1 game and he didn’t even play most of the preseason. Brodie will be fine.
Literally 1 game and he didn’t even play most of the preseason. Brodie will be fine.