Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign F Ryan Reaves (3 years, $1.3M AAV)

[Dreakmur]

Worked with Schenn last season?

Simmonds before?

I don't think it works.

It did in both cases, but to a lesser degree. They aren’t the same level of deterrence as Reaves.

 

[notbias]

It did in both cases, but to a lesser degree. They aren’t the same level of deterrence as Reaves.

Not sure how to have this convo because people all summer have been saying Knies was injured because we had no deterrent, and now you're saying more would have happened without Schenn?

Don't think it helped Rangers too much otherwise he wouldn't have been in the press box.

No way to argue this so, appreciate that you feel that way, not sure that is the case though.

The deterrent at least does not lead to more winning, that is factual.

 

[justashadowof]

With those hot heads we bruh on board.

I can't wait for Reaves to have his first fighting major. Me and my bruhs will have a beer drinking/chest thumping Bro-downnnnnn...

Sportsball, amirite?

 

[Nineteen67]

Since the beginning of time.

The only player that wasn’t deterred was board hero big tough Mike Johnson……. Granted he was playing shinny and had no clue the real players were doing.

 

[Dreakmur]

Not sure how to have this convo because people all summer have been saying Knies was injured because we had no deterrent, and now you're saying more would have happened without Schenn?

Unless you think I said the first thing, I’m not sure what makes this confusing.

The biggest misconception seems to be that a deterrent is going to prevent all incidents. Bigger deterrence will prevent more, but still not all.

Don't think it helped Rangers too much otherwise he wouldn't have been in the press box.

No way to argue this so, appreciate that you feel that way, not sure that is the case though.

The deterrent at least does not lead to more winning, that is factual.

You don’t need a physical deterrent to win, but you definitely do need some kind of intimidation to win.

 

[ACC1224]

What’s the thinking on why these types of players are added yearly all over the league if they have no value?

 

[shaner8989]

Reaves was brought in to add some spice to the locker room. The leafs room is well known for being extremely boring.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Ryan Reaves Toronto Fight Tracker:

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[Dekes For Days]

Worked with Schenn last season?
Simmonds before?
I don't think it works.

It doesn't work. It's a myth that gets perpetuated because some people prefer a more violent style of play, and want to justify that prioritization that hurts team quality.
If somebody who would do something wants to do something, they'll do something. They don't care who's on the other side.

 

[LeafChief]

It doesn't work. It's a myth that gets perpetuated because some people prefer a more violent style of play, and want to justify that prioritization that hurts team quality.
If somebody who would do something wants to do something, they'll do something. They don't care who's on the other side.

Anyone that's played any level of contact sports understands that it feels much easier to play the game when you have the toughest guy in the league on your team.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Anyone that's played any level of contact sports understands that it feels much easier to play the game when you have the toughest guy in the league on your team.

Maybe that's your personal experience in low level leagues, but that's not true at all, especially if one of the toughest guys in the league is also one of the worst players in the league. And it doesn't change that the dirty player on the other team doesn't care. He'll do what he's going to do, just the same.

 

[ToneDog]

It doesn't work. It's a myth that gets perpetuated because some people prefer a more violent style of play, and want to justify that prioritization that hurts team quality.
If somebody who would do something wants to do something, they'll do something. They don't care who's on the other side.

True for Dubas teams but now players need to think twice before taking cheap shots at our players because they know they will soon thereafter have to answer to Reaves. Reaves was not brought in to arrange parties as some have claimed, he knows his role.

 

[All Mod Cons]

True for Dubas teams but now players need to think twice before taking cheap shots at our players because they know they will soon thereafter have to answer to Reaves. Reaves was not brought in to arrange parties as some have claimed, he knows his role.

It is sickening how soft of a team we are.

 

[Dekes For Days]

True for Dubas teams but now players need to think twice before taking cheap shots at our players because they know they will soon thereafter have to answer to Reaves. Reaves was not brought in to arrange parties as some have claimed, he knows his role.

True for all teams. Nobody who would take cheap shots in the NHL is going to think twice before taking cheap shots.
And for the record, the source of Reaves being brought in to be a party planner is Reaves.

 

[ToneDog]

It is sickening how soft of a team we are.

Bert, Domi and Reaves help some. Hopefully Tre will add another mean dman soon.

 

[All Mod Cons]

Bert, Domi and Reaves help some. Hopefully Tre will add another mean dman soon.

Yeah, it is hard to undo all the destruction that has occurred over the past few years. It won't be a quick fix.

 

[ToneDog]

True for all teams. Nobody who would take cheap shots in the NHL is going to think twice before taking cheap shots.
And for the record, the source of Reaves being brought in to be a party planner is Reaves.

Once Reaves whispers sweet nothings in Stamkos' ear, you can bet Stammer does not try to bully Matthews.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Maybe that's your personal experience in low level leagues, but that's not true at all, especially if one of the toughest guys in the league is also one of the worst players in the league. And it doesn't change that the dirty player on the other team doesn't care. He'll do what he's going to do, just the same.

What's your personal experience?

Mmm...actually don't answer that.

 

[ToneDog]

Yeah, it is hard to undo all the destruction that has occurred over the past few years. It won't be a quick fix.

The stick boy tried to change it overnight at the TDL and it failed. Five wasted seasons.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Once Reaves whispers sweet nothings in Stamkos' ear, you can bet Stammer does not try to bully Matthews.

Stamkos isn't going to change a single thing he does, Reaves or not. Stamkos also isn't going to fight Reaves, or likely ever even be on the ice with him.
Heck, in that situation, Reaves would probably be in the press box anyway.

 

[LeafChief]

Maybe that's your personal experience in low level leagues, but that's not true at all, especially if one of the toughest guys in the league is also one of the worst players in the league. And it doesn't change that the dirty player on the other team doesn't care. He'll do what he's going to do, just the same.

Interesting of you to assume that I played 'low level' hockey. HFboards is not a place I care to tell people of where I played so I'll leave it at that.

We are allowed to have different opinions, that's fair.

 

[All Mod Cons]

The stick boy tried to change it overnight at the TDL and it failed. Five wasted seasons.

Yep. Piece by piece dismantling the team an making sure tomorrows problems were not going to be his.

 

[Dreakmur]

What's your personal experience?

Mmm...actually don't answer that.

His views on this show that he doesn’t understand basic human nature, let alone hockey.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Look at the players who left: O'Rielly, Acciari, Schenn and Bogosian, amongst others.

Look at the players who refused to sign here: Lucic and Gudas that we know of so far.

I think it's pretty clear why Treliving had to give Reaves a three year deal above league minimum. Because nobody else wants to babysit these sucks. The entire league knows this is the biggest collection of gutless hockey players in the world.

It's not like Treliving woke up one morning and said "Screw it, I'm gonna sign a guy who's 36 years old with 59 goals in over 800 games played to a three year deal paying a million bucks a year".

This was an act of desperation. The last resort after plans A, B, and C all fell through. This wasn't something Treliving did because he wanted to do it.

He did it because he didn't have any other choice.

O'Reilly said something about character issues in the room but he left because he didn't want to be in the spotlight. Hence Nashville.

Acciari wanted to come back but got 2M for the next 3 yrs. He likely wasn't getting that here.

Schenn wanted to come back but got 2.75M for 3 yrs in Nashville. He definitely wasn't getting that here.

Bogosian left because of the covid restrictions in Canada.

Lucic didn't sign here because of the rivalries from his Boston days. He said that on Spittin Chiclets in this week's episode.

Gudas didn't sign here or in Edmonton because of the Canadian media

 

[TML Dynasty]

Some dirty players will still be dirty. Some injuries will still happen. But there is definitely a lot of nonsense that won’t happen, knowing they’ll have to answer to Reaves after.