Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign F Auston Matthews to extension (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[Legion34]

Who Had The Most Goals Under The Age Of 26 | StatMuse

Wayne Gretzky has recorded the most career goals by a player younger than 26, with 529 scored.

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He is probably a top 4 or 5goal scorer All time at this age.

Gretz. Mario. Bossy. Ovy. Matthews

I would say having him locked up during his prom for 14-15%
Is pretty good

 

[ACC1224]

Who Had The Most Goals Under The Age Of 26 | StatMuse

Wayne Gretzky has recorded the most career goals by a player younger than 26, with 529 scored.

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He is probably a top 45 goal scorer All time at this age.

Gretz. Mario. Bossy. Ovy. Matthews

I would say having him locked up during his prom for 14-15%
Is pretty good

Agreed but he'd look pretty creepy at the prom.

 

[Legion34]

Agreed but he'd look pretty creepy at the prom.

Hahaha screen is cracked. I’m not catching all my spelling. Waiting for the school specials for my new phone lol

 

[WillyC]

He uses his size but he doesn't play mean.
It just doesn't seem to be in his dna.

The next 5 years are when Auston will be at his most physical strength as a hockey player… it’s still possible he develops more grit to his game and becomes the playoff warrior we need.

 

[Al14]

After sleeping on AM's signing for a few days, I'm finally ready to comment.

This new deal is disgusting for me in 3 ways.

First off, it is too big of an increase that IS NOT justified by AM helping our Leafs to win a Stanley cup championship. One single playoff round win should not mean any of our core 4 deserve any increases in remuneration.

Secondly, the term is once again too short and only reflects that AM is only interested in getting more money sooner, especially if the cap goes up. He is more committed to getting more money than helping our Leafs to win any SC championships.

And thirdly, the only leadership he is showing is to himself. Nylander now knows that it's every man for himself and he should hold out for every penny himself. This sets the example for every other player on the team too.

Good luck on re-signing Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg, to reasonable deals next year should they prove themselves this coming season. Marner will want a substantial raise when his deal ends as well.

AM is once again showing that he is in it for the money. He surely is not showing any leadership towards making our Leafs SC winners. He can't win anything all by himself and taking money off the cap prevents our Leafs from surrounding our core with better supporting players.

This is just my humble opinion right now. Our Leafs could sway this opinion by doing something miraculous and winning it all this coming season.

 

[ACC1224]

The next 5 years are when Auston will be at his most physical strength as a hockey player… it’s still possible he develops more grit to his game and becomes the playoff warrior we need.

Anything is possible and it would certainly be welcome but tough to see at them moment, love the optimism though.

If he could just get mad enough to snap one night and just lay into someone it would do massive things for himself and this team. I know he did it once but we haven't seen it since.
Always thought he could turn into a Lindros type but it just doesn't seem to have it in him.

 

[Mess]

Doesn't McDavid have the higher cap %?

Nope because a players AAV (average annual value) = their Cap hit and so the higher the AAV the > the CH% because CH% = Players AAV (Cap hit) / Salary Cap Ceiling for that year.

Next year when Matthews contract starts in 2024-25 the cap ceiling is projected to increase to $87,500,000.

Therefore

Matthews @ $13.25 mil AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 15.14 % while McDavid @ $12.5 mill AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 14.28 % & MacKinnon @ $12.6 mil AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 14.40 %

Auston Matthews $13.25 mil AAV will consume the most Cap hit % of any NHL player for any NHL team of their teams Salary Cap ceiling. The higher the AAV the more of a teams salary cap it consumes.

 

[ACC1224]

Nope

Next year when Matthews contract starts in 2024-25 the cap ceiling is projected to increase to $87,500,000.

Therefore

Matthews @ $13.25 mil AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 15.14 % while McDavid @ $12.5 mill AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 14.28 %.

Percentage when signed. Matthews percentage will go down over time as well. I don't believe the cap was 87.5 when McDavid signed.

 

[Legion34]

Nope

Next year when Matthews contract starts in 2024-25 the cap ceiling is projected to increase to $87,500,000.

Therefore

Matthews @ $13.25 mil AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 15.14 % while McDavid @ $12.5 mill AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 14.28 %.

I used to by a can of coke for a quarter at zellers!

After sleeping on AM's signing for a few days, I'm finally ready to comment.

This new deal is disgusting for me in 3 ways.

First off, it is too big of an increase that IS NOT justified by AM helping our Leafs to win a Stanley cup championship. One single playoff round win should not mean any of our core 4 deserve any increases in remuneration.

Secondly, the term is once again too short and only reflects that AM is only interested in getting more money sooner, especially if the cap goes up. He is more committed to getting more money than helping our Leafs to win any SC championships.

And thirdly, the only leadership he is showing is to himself. Nylander now knows that it's every man for himself and he should hold out for every penny himself. This sets the example for every other player on the team too.

Good luck on re-signing Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg, to reasonable deals next year should they prove themselves this coming season. Marner will want a substantial raise when his deal ends as well.

AM is once again showing that he is in it for the money. He surely is not showing any leadership towards making our Leafs SC winners. He can't win anything all by himself and taking money off the cap prevents our Leafs from surrounding our core with better supporting players.

This is just my humble opinion right now. Our Leafs could sway this opinion by doing something miraculous and winning it all this coming season.

1.) you want klingberg back?
2.) you think Auston Matthews getting a 1% raise from his last cap hit changes things? After 2 rockets and a hart?

 

[Gallagbi]

Nope

Next year when Matthews contract starts in 2024-25 the cap ceiling is projected to increase to $87,500,000.

Therefore

Matthews @ $13.25 mil AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 15.14 % while McDavid @ $12.5 mill AAV / $87,500,000 = CH% 14.28 %.

How the f*** do they still let you post here, let alone moderate?

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Percentage when signed. Matthews percentage will go down over time as well. I don't believe the cap was 87.5 when McDavid signed.

The whole point of a long term contract is that it's player friendly at the beginning and team friendly at the end.

Matthews has positioned so that his contracts are always player friendly and never team friendly.

Every other superstar player could do this. They just are less greedy and choose not to.

 

[KPower]

It’s a me first contract but Dubas set him up for this contract.

Tre had no choice but give him whatever he wanted.

It’s not an anchor of a contract so we have to live with it and move on.

 

[Mess]

When Matthews new contract kicks in 2024-25 the Leafs will have 3 of the top 9 highest Cap Hits in the NHL, including the highest paid player now.

Matthews @ $13.25 mil + Tavares @ $11 mil + Marner @ $10.9 mil = $35.15 mil combined of $87,500,00 Cap Hit % = 40.17% (no team is going to come anywhere near that for 3 players)

PS this doesn't included Nylander and his next contract expected to also increase by +$2 mil from present and also going to impact the 2024-25 season.

 

[Bomber0104]

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AM is once again showing that he is in it for the money. He surely is not showing any leadership towards making our Leafs SC winners. He can't win anything all by himself and taking money off the cap prevents our Leafs from surrounding our core with better supporting players.

This is just my humble opinion right now. Our Leafs could sway this opinion by doing something miraculous and winning it all this coming season.

What's hilarious is even the odd time Matthews performs well in the playoffs (not often) and our bargain/dumpster-bin depth fails us, that's still more-or-less Matthews' fault indirectly as well because of all that cap-space he's hogging up.

 

[Peasy]

When Matthews new contract kicks in 2024-25 the Leafs will have 3 of the top 9 highest Cap Hits in the NHL, including the highest paid player now.

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Matthews @ $13.25 mil + Tavares @ $11 mil + Marner @ $10.9 mil = $35.15 mil combined of $87,500,00 Cap Hit % = 40.17% (no team is going to come anywhere near that for 3 players)

PS this doesn't included Nylander and his next contract expected to also increase by +$2 mil from present and also going to impact the 2024-25 season.

I mean they have 3 of the top 9 highest cap hits right now even without the extension. That was never going to change with his deal lmao.

 

[Legion34]

The whole point of a long term contract is that it's player friendly at the beginning and team friendly at the end.

Matthews has positioned so that his contracts are always player friendly and never team friendly.

Every other superstar player could do this. They just are less greedy and choose not to.

Connor Mcdavid singed for 8 years. 100 million total at 16.7% of the cap when he signed.

He just came out and refused to commit to another contract. He could easily leave after 8 years for nothing

Auston Matthews signed for
14.3% of the cap x5. always said we would re sign
Did it again

And signed for 15.1% of the cap (gauranteed by CBA)x 4

Ultimately even ignoring that the leafs got to have a lower cap hit during lower times. Combining gauranteed contracts when they signed

Mcdavid signed for 16.67% for 8 yeas
Matthews signed for 15.12% for 9 years.

Mcdavid is clearly the better player. 1.5% AAV less and an extra year is about fair

 

[notbias]

The whole point of a long term contract is that it's player friendly at the beginning and team friendly at the end.

Matthews has positioned so that his contracts are always player friendly and never team friendly.

Every other superstar player could do this. They just are less greedy and choose not to.

Most star players do a 5/6 year deal off their ELC.

This 4 year deal doesn't happen often because for the second contract after their ELC, it is more beneficial to get an 8 year deal since it is more years past their prime being bought.

 

[Roo]

Wondering what it means from a NMC perspective. He has one for this year, does it carry into the extension or is it gone? Thats probably a bigger factor than 5the years and aav.

 

[notbias]

Wondering what it means from a NMC perspective. He has one for this year, does it carry into the extension or is it gone? Thats probably a bigger factor than 5the years and aav.

NMC every, pretty standard with star players.

 

[Gallagbi]

Wondering what it means from a NMC perspective. He has one for this year, does it carry into the extension or is it gone? Thats probably a bigger factor than 5the years and aav.

Its negotiated as part of the new deal, NMC through all 4 years of the new deal and this coming season.

 

[IPS]

Connor Mcdavid singed for 8 years. 100 million total at 16.7% of the cap when he signed.

He just came out and refused to commit to another contract. He could easily leave after 8 years for nothing

Auston Matthews signed for
14.3% of the cap x5. always said we would re sign
Did it again

And signed for 15.1% of the cap (gauranteed by CBA)x 4

Ultimately even ignoring that the leafs got to have a lower cap hit during lower times. Combining gauranteed contracts when they signed

Mcdavid signed for 16.67% for 8 yeas
Matthews signed for 15.12% for 9 years.

Mcdavid is clearly the better player. 1.5% AAV less and an extra year is about fair

About fair? Didn't McDavid sign at some crazy discount for no reason? Surely the "actual" number is higher than 1.5%.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Most star players do a 5/6 year deal off their ELC.

This 4 year deal doesn't happen often because for the second contract after their ELC, it is more beneficial to get an 8 year deal since it is more years past their prime being bought.

On an 8 year 3rd contract.... Yes, the player usually loses a step by the last couple of years. BUT they are also making significantly less cap percentage than when they signed. So it balances out. Tavares is a weird example as no other ppg players get the cap percentage he was offered and the cap barely increased at all in the 7 years since he signed.

It's indisputably in the better interest for the team to have an 8 year deal on a 26 year old rather than to have to renegotiate when they're 30 and the cap is significantly higher. Tavares is 32 and still putting up his career averages. It's likely Matthews will as well by age 30. He'll still be a 50 goal 95 point guy. Looking for a new contract with the cap way higher.

The current contract benefits MATTHEWS at the expense of the rest of the team. Every other star player COULD choose this route, but they aren't as selfish.

 

[Legion34]

About fair? Didn't McDavid sign at some crazy discount for no reason? Surely the "actual" number is higher than 1.5%.

I have no idea what you mean

The numbers are the numbers. Mcdavid signed for 16.67% with less hardware than Matthews at for 15.1%

Mcdavid is the better player. I would trade him for Matthews right now. Even if they swatched the contracts. But it the numbers are the numbers.

 

[Mess]

What's hilarious is even the odd time Matthews performs well in the playoffs (not often) and our bargain/dumpster-bin depth fails us, that's still more-or-less Matthews' fault indirectly as well because of all that cap-space he's hogging up.

It constantly amazes me how few fans actually connect those dots.

Matthews + Tavares + Marner all making $11 mil combined for 1 goal in 5 games in a near Florida sweep in round #2 and its the Leafs depth that failed them (so lets swap around those deck chairs) , yet its really the Leafs stars that consume all the cap space leaving very little for the surrounding team, and its their greed that is 100% responsible for Leaf lack of Cup competitiveness.

Its a hard salary cap ceiling and an inversely proportional relationship (If two quantities are inversely proportional then as one quantity increases, the other decreases). So every single $1 the Leafs overpay Matthews and company that is one $1 less for everybody else to build a Cup competitive team around.

Matthews begins 2024-25 as he highest paid player in the game so he consumes the greatest % of a teams total salary Cap, which really means he needs to be the highest scoring player in the game particularly come playoff time when it really matters to validate his CH% and bang for his salary cap buck.

If a clueless Dubas wouldn't have screwed this up so royally the Leafs would still have Auston under contract for 4 more years on his previous deal, and now as the Cap ceiling is increasing again the Leafs would be fitting $11.634 mil and not $13.25 mil under the teams salary cap. That is now an additional +$1.62 mil less for the rest of the team than previously. With each star player raise and Willy is next the less room for the rest and Leafs get less Cup competitive in the process as a result.

 

[Peasy]

I think the majority of Leaf fans understand the current cap structure is not ideal, but its the situation they are in, and have been the past 4 years. Its just become tiresome at this point beating the same dead horse over and over again.

And its clear people will do this the next 5 years too.