Confirmed with Link: Leafs sign F Auston Matthews to extension (4 years, $13.25M AAV)

[BallardEra]

???? And Matthews missed half a season to the pandemic.

At the exact same age. To the day.

Matthews games. 481. Goals .299
Ovechkin. Games. 475. Goals. 301

Both 2 time rocket winners
Both had 1 60 goal season

Matthews has 2 less goals in 6 more games than the greatest goal scorer ever at the same age.

Just meant it sucks for Ovie to have missed that first season as he chases down 894.

It's also mind boggling that he's scored 521 more goals since then.

Gretzky scored 436 more goals from his age 26 season until he retired.

 

[YearsintheWilderness]

The BS rationales that always take shape after something like this are always pure gold.

The most common one being floated by Treliving and the media arse lickers is: "We should be grateful that Matthews didn't eff us over BECAUSE HE SURE COULD HAVE! Accepting 4 years at the highest AAV in the league without having won anything while every other superstar signs for 8 years is a sign of leadership."

Is getting your arse out in public a sign of leadership? "Yeah, but, he could have got his cock out SO WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL!"

Never-ending entertainment from the biggest circus in the NHL...

 

[Squiffy]

The BS rationales that always take shape after something like this are always pure gold.

The most common one being floated by Treliving and the media arse lickers is: "We should be grateful that Matthews didn't eff us over BECAUSE HE SURE COULD HAVE! Accepting 4 years at the highest AAV in the league without having won anything while every other superstar signs for 8 years is a sign of leadership."

Is getting your arse out in public a sign of leadership? "Yeah, but, he could have got his cock out SO WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL!"

Never-ending entertainment from the biggest circus in the NHL...

I'm trying to take something from this, but it's hard. I mean, I'll have six beers, that fair.

Would have been nice to have a couple more years I guess? Maybe. Should we be grateful that he didn't put his cock on the table? In general yes, that's always good, although appropriately timed it can be a real laugher.

Dude, what can be expected? The contract is fine, there's other contracts that matter more for fixing cap management. You take your 1C stud at this price all day long, no one wouldn't.

Overdrive Level of Concern on this post:

 

[fillkessel]

The BS rationales that always take shape after something like this are always pure gold.

The most common one being floated by Treliving and the media arse lickers is: "We should be grateful that Matthews didn't eff us over BECAUSE HE SURE COULD HAVE! Accepting 4 years at the highest AAV in the league without having won anything while every other superstar signs for 8 years is a sign of leadership."

Is getting your arse out in public a sign of leadership? "Yeah, but, he could have got his cock out SO WE SHOULD BE GRATEFUL!"

Never-ending entertainment from the biggest circus in the NHL...

No, the dogshit comments like this are always pure gold. You sound like an absolute duster who has never touched a puck in his life. Maybe just be an Edmonton fan if the second best player in the world isn’t good enough for you.

 

[Squiffy]

I mean, I'l have six.

 

[centipede2233]

I just watched the matthews interview discussing his contract. If I were to interpret it, it’s not looking good for matthews staying past this 4 yr extension. its My belief matthews wants to get to,Arizona asap, but because of certain stadium and money issues with Arizona, that’s not possible atm. But in 4/5 yrs it might be possible. And when matthews said in his interview ”I will have been here for 12 years after this contract”, that’s code for, ”I gave you 12 years toronto fans, it’s time for me to go home”. When someone has on their mind that they want to spend the rest of their career with a team, what they don’t say is how many years they would have been with the team after the contract is done.

 

[keonsbitterness]

I just watched the matthews interview discussing his contract. If I were to interpret it, it’s not looking good for matthews staying past this 4 yr extension. its My belief matthews wants to get to,Arizona asap, but because of certain stadium and money issues with Arizona, that’s not possible atm. But in 4/5 yrs it might be possible. And when matthews said in his interview ”I will have been here for 12 years after this contract”, that’s code for, ”I gave you 12 years toronto fans, it’s time for me to go home”. When someone has on their mind that they want to spend the rest of their career with a team, what they don’t say is how many years they would have been with the team after the contract is done.

Signing 12 years worth of contracts is code for wanting to leave? Next time get a better interpreter.

 

[francis246]

I just watched the matthews interview discussing his contract. If I were to interpret it, it’s not looking good for matthews staying past this 4 yr extension. its My belief matthews wants to get to,Arizona asap, but because of certain stadium and money issues with Arizona, that’s not possible atm. But in 4/5 yrs it might be possible. And when matthews said in his interview ”I will have been here for 12 years after this contract”, that’s code for, ”I gave you 12 years toronto fans, it’s time for me to go home”. When someone has on their mind that they want to spend the rest of their career with a team, what they don’t say is how many years they would have been with the team after the contract is done.

How you came away with that is crazy. How about we just take it for what it is, he’s just stating he’d be here for 12 years and at that time he can evaluate what he wants to do next. Nothing wrong with that. I don’t think he’s implying 12 years is all he’s willing to give to this organization, rather both he and the team will have discussions at the end of 12 years.

 

[Enga Olly]

I may be one of the few AM fans that isn't concerned at all about what he choses to do in 5 years. The way I see it, either he continues with his great regular season performance and hopefully gets the PO results we all want to see, and then we will have gotten our money's worth or the PO disappointments continue and we will all be relieved that we're not on the hook until 2032. I don't know what TML's real desire for term was with this contract, but for me it was the best part of the deal - and I love AM, no hater and have no issues with the $$.

By the time this new contract is going into it's final year - all questions about AM's health, his drive and his PO performance will be answered, no ambiguity. Either we'll want him to be a Leaf for life or his departure will leave adequate cap space to move on.

 

[Legion34]

Just meant it sucks for Ovie to have missed that first season as he chases down 894.

It's also mind boggling that he's scored 521 more goals since then.

Gretzky scored 436 more goals from his age 26 season until he retired.

Gretzky also had a major back injury. I personally do not believe Matthews will get anywhere near what ovy will. I don’t think he ages well personally.

What OVY has done is unparalleled. I would be thrilled if matthews gets to 600 goals. That’s an incredible career

 

[horner]

I may be one of the few AM fans that isn't concerned at all about what he choses to do in 5 years. The way I see it, either he continues with his great regular season performance and hopefully gets the PO results we all want to see, and then we will have gotten our money's worth or the PO disappointments continue and we will all be relieved that we're not on the hook until 2032. I don't know what TML's real desire for term was with this contract, but for me it was the best part of the deal - and I love AM, no hater and have no issues with the $$.

By the time this new contract is going into it's final year - all questions about AM's health, his drive and his PO performance will be answered, no ambiguity. Either we'll want him to be a Leaf for life or his departure will leave adequate cap space to move on.

I agree.
5 yrs is fine with me.
Playoff performance and health.
His next contract will be 8 yrs let someone else eat those yrs.

 

[ACC1224]

Probably retires in 5 years, he’s only in it for the money anyway. I expect he gets into show business with Bieber after that.

 

[Hellcat]

I mean, I'l have six.

This guy came out our public school system... Jesus...

What's more dangerous not brushing your teeth for 40 years or 4 beers a day?

 

[Hellcat]

Probably retires in 5 years, he’s only in it for the money anyway. I expect he gets into show business with Bieber after that.

Someone is getting paid to do your job and your genius statement is he's only in it for the money? I personally know no one who gets paid to do their job, everyone does it for free, every person every where also tells their boss, no thanks to that raise, I'm not in this for the money. I'm for one shocked someone that is elite in their industry is getting paid elite dollars. Maybe one day someone will pay you 13 mil for stupid comments, until then no one is paying you for that tripe.

I strongly recommend you change team allegiance cause if Matthews shocks you, wait for Marner and Nylander contract. It's not the players fault their GM was an incompetent F that couldn't draft and couldn't sign the correct FA to compliment this teams ELITE stars. It's not the players job to manage the cap.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Someone is getting paid to do your job and your genius statement is he's only in it for the money? I personally know no one who gets paid to do their job, everyone does it for free, every person every where also tells their boss, no thanks to that raise, I'm not in this for the money. I'm for one shocked someone that is elite in their industry is getting paid elite dollars. Maybe one day someone will pay you 13 mil for stupid comments, until then no one is paying you for that tripe.

I strongly recommend you change team allegiance cause if Matthews shocks you, wait for Marner and Nylander contract. It's not the players fault their GM was an incompetent F that couldn't draft and couldn't sign the correct FA to compliment this teams ELITE stars. It's not the players job to manage the cap.

Everything you just wrote also applies to elite players who recently signed. Pastrnak and MacKinnon could have done what Matthews did to maximize personal profits at the teams expense. But they chose not to be so greedy and signed 8 years.

 

[Hellcat]

Everything you just wrote also applies to elite players who recently signed. Pastrnak and MacKinnon could have done what Matthews did to maximize personal profits at the teams expense. But they chose not to be so greedy and signed 8 years.

Which one of those players has scored 299 goals in the last 7 years? Which one has won the Hart? Win the Rocket Richard two times?

 

[Nineteen67]

Atta boy, Auston. I like those comments.

 

[Nineteen67]

I agree with all this but what everyone seems to be missing out on - including me in my post - is that in 4 years he holds all the cards again and puts Toronto into a very difficult position. Even more than this go-around (where they could have moved him before his NMC kicked in).

1st, the full NMC means in 4 years Toronto either re-signs him or, as 30 year old still in his prime he walks for nothing. Which I imagine means he'll make his pitch for a 7 (or 8) year deal that will likely take him to retirement, likely at a 10M+ AAV. Toronto either ponies up or he (easily) finds another team that will.

So when I say he got everything he wanted, it's not the deal in itself (I do agree the modest raise is probably fair) but the further leverage it gives him while further weakening MLSE's hand. Brad was right, Matthews had all the leverage in this deal and that's why I say he took advantage of it.

5 or 6 ys would give them a little more breathing room to find the D and shore up the F before worrying about his next contract. 4 yrs will be here before you know it.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Which one of those players has scored 299 goals in the last 7 years? Which one has won the Hart? Win the Rocket Richard two times?

Which one has won a cup?

But it doesn't matter. The point is that they COULD have insisted on 4 year terms at higher aav's to maximize their career earnings at the expense of team success. But they weren't that greedy. Only our guys are that greedy.

On last contract when Matthews was paid as much as McDavid when term is considered, some people tried bringing up that McDavid won a Hart and an Art Ross and Matthews hadn't. We were told such things don't matter when it comes to contracts.

There is NO consistency. NONE!!!!

 

[Mess]

LOL why do you do this!? Don’t you get tired of posting things out of context. Matthews has won other awards since that time increasing his value including two rockets and a hart trophy and how many NHL all-star team awards.

You missed the point of my post.

McDavid has also won many awards and scoring titles on his current 8 year deal.. Matthews deal should also have been 8 years in comparison so therefore the only contract used as the basis for their 2nd contracts would be their original entry level ones.

McDavid

Matthews

Which player should have the higher NHL contract in comparison?

 

[ACC1224]

You missed the point of my post.

McDavid has also won many awards and scoring titles on his current 8 year deal.. Matthews deal should also have been 8 years in comparison so therefore the only contract used as the basis for their 2nd contracts would be their original entry level ones.

McDavid

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Matthews

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Which player should have the higher NHL contract in comparison?

Doesn't McDavid have the higher cap %?

 

[WillyC]

It’s possible Auston Matthews matures even more over the next 2 years… and starts playing to his size advantage.

He literally has the skill to be the best power forward in the NHL.

 

[Legion34]

You missed the point of my post.

McDavid has also won many awards and scoring titles on his current 8 year deal.. Matthews deal should also have been 8 years in comparison so therefore the only contract used as the basis for their 2nd contracts would be their original entry level ones.

McDavid

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Matthews

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Which player should have the higher NHL contract in comparison?

Definitely not mackinnon

Who had what when they signed

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Doesn't McDavid have the higher cap %?

Yep. That's what happens when you sign less selfish team friendly long term deals. Your "cap percentage at time of signing" stays high throughout the contract. Imagine that.

 

[ACC1224]

It’s possible Auston Matthews matures even more over the next 2 years… and starts playing to his size advantage.

He literally has the skill to be the best power forward in the NHL.

He uses his size but he doesn't play mean.
It just doesn't seem to be in his dna.