TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[thewave]

I agree that they had to pay a premium for the player to play in Calgary but I don't think it was smart business. At that point you just maximize your asset and trade him as a rental instead of turning a positive asset into (maybe?) the worst contract in the league.

Until the league fixes the tax discrepancy between the US and CDN markets this will happen. Same goes for low tax states vs high tax states. The league is essentially a joke at the cap level so markets like CGY where these guys don't want to live lose players. I wouldn't want to stay in CGY or EDM when I could go south and take a few less bucks, still make more and have access to tons of perks.

 

[ToneDog]

Either someone comes in here and puts us on the right path to the Cup ASAP, or they totally pooch it quick, everyone gets fired and we start again.

Option 2 is a not happening. So it is option 1. Hopefully he has learned from his mistake of handing the keys over to a snake/snake oil salesman.

 

[weems]

For anyone that likes these stats. Calgary actually ranked really good last season 5v5

 

[Peasy]

Dubas was a mess, look at all the assets lost compiled for viewing in the threads. There's a pretty comprehensive list of his trash GManship. Pridham is way smarter and more in line with Shanahan about building teams hard to play against. What do you think happened here to suddenly cause NuHockey the flop to be abandoned and Shanahan blocking trades etc? He was running the show and it's documented now Pridham made trades like ROR and Schenn happen.

Get over your boy Dubas, he is gone. Good riddance too.

The thing is I don't expect this org to promote Pridham to gm. I never said Dubas wasn't a mess, I just think he is currently the best mess available. I'm expecting whoever they hire to make little to no changes, run back the core 4, and just go out early again in the playoffs. I hope I'm completely wrong but I have very little faith that this org will make a smart decision with the gm.

Like I mean just look at this tire fire of a week. You have confidence in this group to make a smart decision?

 

[thusk]

I agree that they had to pay a premium for the player to play in Calgary but I don't think it was smart business. At that point you just maximize your asset and trade him as a rental instead of turning a positive asset into (maybe?) the worst contract in the league.

Maximize asset... a get a premium foward with sutter no more there will p4obably came back as a 90-100 pts player, a top 3 D and a 1st pick... i dont thing get a bunch of late 1st pick or prospect you dont know if they will bring you something good one day is a better idea for a team who finished 1st of their division last year

I ask you just one thing, just imagine pittsburgh didn't lost vs chicago at the end of season and florida missed the playoff and calgary find 2-3 pts they need to make it and having the same kind of surprising run because Markstrom suddently becoming an amaizing player, do we talk about that trade the same way?

That didn't worked well for huberdeau in his 1st year with sutter... okay do that mean he will not find his game back right now sutter is gone? Thing change quickly

 

[thewave]

The thing is I don't expect this org to promote Pridham to gm. I never said Dubas wasn't a mess, I just think he is currently the best mess available. I'm expecting whoever they hire to make little to no changes, run back the core 4, and just go out early again in the playoffs. I hope I'm completely wrong but I have very little faith that this org will make a smart decision with the gm.

Pridham would run circles around Dubas. I'd sooner have Pridhams logical brain paired with Shanahan's NHL player hockey senses than two meatheads like Shanny and Treliving together. Just saying, Dubas isn't the end all be all and if we get someone like McPhee, that's a whole different situation.

 

[ULF_55]

Until the league fixes the tax discrepancy between the US and CDN markets this will happen. Same goes for low tax states vs high tax states. The league is essentially a joke at the cap level so markets like CGY where these guys don't want to live lose players. I wouldn't want to stay in CGY or EDM when I could go south and take a few less bucks, still make more and have access to tons of perks.

Funny, I'd stay out of Florida for less money. Mind you, I'm guessing they "work" in Florida, but live somewhere nice when they aren't working.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Good news for us. When I saw Pittsburgh might hire both Dubas and Tulsky I was a little worried.

Dubas and Tulsky are too similar.

I’m not sure analytics is as popular as it once was with NHL ownership groups considering that the Panthers were an analytics disaster this season but are on the verge of the cup finals.

 

[thewave]

Funny, I'd stay out of Florida for less money. Mind you, I'm guessing they "work" in Florida, but live somewhere nice when they aren't working.

The wives love it. haha

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Pridham would run circles around Dubas. I'd sooner have Pridhams logical brain paired with Shanahan's NHL player hockey senses than two meatheads like Shanny and Treliving together. Just saying, Dubas isn't the end all be all and if we get someone like McPhee, that's a whole different situation.

We aren't getting McPhee.

 

[ULF_55]

The wives love it. haha

Need someone to "clean the pool."

 

[Twine Tickler]

Treliving isn't terrible. Especially when you consider the financial and social barrier's he must have faced as the GM of the Flames. It's definitely not a premier destination in the NHL. Far from the worst, but far from the top as well. I also imagine the budget in CGY is not as exorbitant as it would be in TOR. This could be a good or bad thing though. More money doesn't mean a thing if you don't spend it right.

Out of all the old farts in the game, I think Treliving might be one of the better options. Would far rather have him in charge over Bergevin, Benning, Chiarelli...etc.

That said, I think I would prefer a Tulsky over Brad. The one thing I think Brad has in spades is respect league wide. Both from the players and executives. It will make this transition a bit more seamless and easier to navigate.

He's not my first option, but he is far from a worst case scenario IMO

 

[thewave]

We aren't getting McPhee.

I am perfectly ok with Pridham working with Shanahan for a couple years to see how it goes. The guy really is quite brilliant and I tend to trust that more than Dubas, who, honestly always struck me as more of a snake oil salesman.

 

[Peasy]

Pridham would run circles around Dubas. I'd sooner have Pridhams logical brain paired with Shanahan's NHL player hockey senses than two meatheads like Shanny and Treliving together. Just saying, Dubas isn't the end all be all and if we get someone like McPhee, that's a whole different situation.

Again, I'd be more than happy with Pridham, I just don't think Shanny will do it. But I hope im wrong.

 

[ACC1224]

Obviously the biggest plus to Treliving coming in is that horrible Pizza Pizza crap will be replaced with Boston Pizza.
There is always a bright side.

 

[rumman]

Are we keeping the same core? It doesn’t matter to me then which guy they pick.

Exactly, nothing changes without better cap allocation. FULL STOP………

 

[613Leafer]

Treliving is the only name the media has been beating the drum about non-stop for the past ~4-5 days. Seems like there's a ton of smoke around this.

 

[thusk]

A gm who having succes will be a genious, a gm who dont get
succes will be a fool

Holland in red wings good year was a genious, since looking like a fool

Tallom/Bowman was considerated like a genious when chicago won it, now looking like a fool...

Burke was considerated like a genious, now like a fool

At the end, the only difference is at one time what they tried had been working and what they tried at an other moment just didn't work at all... and its the case with everybody... everybody taking decision whos gonna work and decision whos not... if you dont take any bad decision, you just probably taking any decision at all

 

[dangomon]

I don't really care who they settle on (well I do, but oh well) as long as there is more process than this. I want a list of possibilities and want to hear about numerous interviews. Somehow this early race has turned into Treliving vs Treliving, at least in what's being reported by the media.

 

[TopG]

Tree would be a great hire for the situation this club is about to find themselves in. Players know he will just ship their ass out if they get too cute in contract negotiations. He won’t overpay guys like Kyle and has the balls to make big moves. It’s not the players’ team anymore

 

[rumman]

His drafting record is abysmal, if he is the hire I hope he lets the scouts do their jobs.

Not much of a job, the cupboard is bare due to you know who……….

 

[The Masters]

Shanny is finished if he hires Treliving. What a bad hire.

 

[rumman]

Obviously the biggest plus to Treliving coming in is that horrible Pizza Pizza crap will be replaced with Boston Pizza.
There is always a bright side.

Mmmmmmmmmm carbs…….

 

[Twine Tickler]

Treliving is the only name the media has been beating the drum about non-stop for the past ~4-5 days. Seems like there's a ton of smoke around this.

Yup.

I imagine there is something to it. Also, almost the second Dubas was let go it seems like Calgary let up on their stance to let Brad talk to other teams. Maybe there was a phone call that was had between the 2 clubs.

I really don't know what to expect from Brad TBH. I genuinely don't know if he was able to accomplish everything he wanted or could have in Calgary. It seems like ownership has their own objectives on how things get ran, and they really seem to be pushing for a playoffs or bust narrative.

I am not entirely sure Brad was fully behind every decision that was made in Calgary if I am being honest. Being a Vancouverite, I see first hand how much a bad owner can impact the decision making of a club. That's not to suggest Brad didn't make any poor decisions on his own, but I wonder what a more lenient ownership group would allow him to do.

I don't know. His name doesn't get my heart racing or my blood boiling. I am so indifferent to the idea. Definitely feel like there are better candidates, but the list of worse candidates is far greater.

 

[thewave]

Shanny is finished if he hires Treliving. What a bad hire.

We need massive correction in the cap area. Solution, hire the cap dunce Treliving and give away your cap specialist to CGY. That would be hilarious, like honestly if that happen full stop I am rolling on the floor laughing.

I don't believe Pridham was responsible for our moves, he was just genius enough to enable Dubas to make as many moves as they did.