TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[supermann_98]

I don't see Treliving really moving the needle for us or being a better GM than Dubas. Maybe better at trades, worse at contracts and maybe the same or slightly better at drafting.

I can't see that being the solid change this organization needs.

Worse at contracts than Dubas? Come on now

 

[Legion34]

You could look at the lost players two ways. One way he learns from his mistakes and will never do that again and has said as much to Shanahan. The other, he's just dumb.

So, if we do get him I can just hope he learned from his mistakes.

Conroy was his AGM. His presser went into great detail about how they were sure he wouldn’t leave and learned to never let that happen again.

I hope that tre would be the same. He moved tkachuk which indicates to me he can learn

 

[DarkKnight]

Maybe. Looking at his signing history though has me thinking we would be in worse shape. That's a whole lot of long term contracts to guys in their 30s. If he brings that trend here, we could be in really bad shape, really fast.

I’m not sold on him at all, checkered is the best way to describe his legacy but you could do the same with our guy. The real kicker for me is signing guys so old, reeks of buyouts and salary hell.

 

[Tak7]

I suspect there's factors at play here related to optics & perceptions of the team actually conducting a proper "GM search".

Seems crystal clear that Treliving is their guy, which would be a mistake IMO - however, they have to give off the impression that they are doing their due diligence by going through the proper process. It's about finding that right balance between naming someone quickly so they can get to work, versus not appearing to be completely caught off guard & making a knee-jerk hire.

I'd be very surprised if Treliving isn't the team's GM by this time next week.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Just hire the guy, we all know it's going to be him anyway all signs are pointing to that.

Just get it over with already so the new guy can fire Keefe and bring in a new coaching staff because it looks like Spencer Carbury is gone too.

 

[Thornbury]

I think by next Friday. June 15th seems a bit late.

Leaving it till June 15 would be a disaster. We need this resolved by end of next week.

 

[ToDavid]

I suspect there's factors at play here related to optics & perceptions of the team actually conducting a proper "GM search".

Seems crystal clear that Treliving is their guy, which would be a mistake IMO - however, they have to give off the impression that they are doing their due diligence by going through the proper process. It's about finding that right balance between naming someone quickly so they can get to work, versus not appearing to be completely caught off guard & making a knee-jerk hire.

I'd be very surprised if Treliving isn't the team's GM by this time next week.

It’s a bit concerning that we haven’t heard anything about other candidates yet.

 

[SprDaVE]

Leaving it till June 15 would be a disaster. We need this resolved by end of next week.

For whatever it's worth, Johnston thinks it'll get resolved by next week unless a big curveball happens.

 

[BLONG7]

I'd say Shanahan is equally responsible for this mess if not more so.

I would think, this current situation has Shanny 9 years later, now looking over his shoulder.
I would imagine it's the first time he has felt pressure, real pressure.

 

[BallardEra]

 

[A1LeafNation]

Lindholm is a #1 C, not a top 10 in NHL but still a #1 C

Andersson is an underrated D, in my mins hes a #1 but if hes not, hes extremely close

Wolfe is probably the best G outside of NHL right now. Hes not a #1 right now but im pretty sure he will become a great goali really soon

Try again

Wolf is as proven as Woll. I'll give you Andersson, but lindholm is a 2C on a contender.

Treliving had 8-9 years and he built a mediocre team with a mediocre future.

He's not a good GM.

 

[tmlfan98]

Wolf is as proven as Woll. I'll give you Andersson, but lindholm is a 2C on a contender.

Treliving had 8-9 years and he built a mediocre team with a mediocre future.

He's not a good GM.

That's the point though. Lindholm is a 2C on a contender because historically contenders are usually built, among many other things, with a 1A/1B down the middle (2 elite Cs) plus strength/depth down the middle in general. If the Flames seriously explore trading Lindholm, he will probably be the only top level C that hits the market this offseason (trade or FA). He also was a Selke finalist under a coach he hated.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Once Matthews, Marner and Nylander are signed there won’t be a lot of room left to give any significant long term contracts to guys in their 30’s.

Agreed and we've all lived this "top heavy" structure that doesn't seem to have much success. We also haven't drafted well enough yet to have our prospects be the supporting cast surrounding JT/MM/AM/WN/MR.

In no way am I saying that the next GM's job will be easy. There's going to be a lot tough decisions to be made this offseason. There are a lot of good pieces in place to keep competing.

 

[IPS]

That's the point though. Lindholm is a 2C on a contender because historically contenders are usually built, among many other things, with a 1A/1B down the middle (2 elite Cs) plus strength/depth down the middle in general. If the Flames seriously explore trading Lindholm, he will probably be the only top level C that hits the market this offseason (trade or FA). He also was a Selke finalist under a coach he hated.

Lindholm would be a great add for the team but not realistic at all - they're gonna ask a fortunate for him.

 

[Cor]

I don't. 3 weeks perfectly reasonable given their timeline constraints. Next friday seems rushed if we just started.

You'd be leaving the GM about 2 weeks to sort through A LOT of stuff. I'd be shocked if a new GM isn't announced by this time next week.

And frankly, this isn't an extensive search. CJ as of yesterday couldn't confirm anyone who has interviewed/will interview other than Treliving. It's been the same from Dreger/Friedman/Mirtle as well.

There's maybe a list of like 5-6 people that have interviewed this week, with second interviews happening early next week and then Brad Treliving announced by Friday lol

 

[ACC1224]

This is the time where guys like Knies, Amirov, Robertson and Co supposed to be coming in and shoring up your lineup on the cheap. Too bad we had 3 years of Hunter's botched drafts - huge black hole in the organization.

yeah lots of blame to go around

 

[Apex Predator]

Treliving botched the Gaudreau re-signing.

him to free agency. It was a huge black mark on his record. A big reason why he left the Flames.

What makes anyone think he will get it right this time with Matthews?

Treliving is a good, not great, GM. His pedigree is modest. Is he a better GM than Dubas?

Debatable.

But at least they're trying something different. They might still lose. Or they might not.

One thing is for sure, Leafs fans will continue to be entertained by the shenanigans of the front office just as much as the on-ice product.

At this point I don't think Shanahan has a clue how to fix the mess Dubas has made. "We can and we will" has been a massive boondoggle on the world's largest hockey stage. Dubas gambled on both the payroll and roster construction and lost.

They are quickly running out of time before Matthews can abandon this sinking ship as a result.

I’m hoping for his sake wherever he lands he’s learned from the Johnny g incident.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

You'd be leaving the GM about 2 weeks to sort through A LOT of stuff. I'd be shocked if a new GM isn't announced by this time next week.

And frankly, this isn't an extensive search. CJ as of yesterday couldn't confirm anyone who has interviewed/will interview other than Treliving. It's been the same from Dreger/Friedman/Mirtle as well.

There's maybe a list of like 5-6 people that have interviewed this week, with second interviews happening early next week and then Brad Treliving announced by Friday lol

Barring a miracle I think it is Treliving's job to lose. The timeline seems to match quite well IMO.

Whatever the case maybe I just hope the moves are right and we get the bloody cup

 

[The Masters]

You'd be leaving the GM about 2 weeks to sort through A LOT of stuff. I'd be shocked if a new GM isn't announced by this time next week.

And frankly, this isn't an extensive search. CJ as of yesterday couldn't confirm anyone who has interviewed/will interview other than Treliving. It's been the same from Dreger/Friedman/Mirtle as well.

There's maybe a list of like 5-6 people that have interviewed this week, with second interviews happening early next week and then Brad Treliving announced by Friday lol

That's enough time. I just dont see how they just start this and hire someone end of next week. Seems rushed. It's still a GM gig, not a coaching one. Has to be done thoroughly. 3 weeks to get it done is already a fast timeline and there will be enough time to intergrate him.

 

[SprDaVE]

That's enough time. I just dont see how they just start this and hire someone end of next week. Seems rushed. It's still a GM gig, not a coaching one. Has to be done thoroughly. 3 weeks to get it done is already a fast timeline and there will be enough time to intergrate him.

How long do you think it takes to interview someone and to hire someone for a position? 2-3 weeks is the timeline we're looking at and that seems ample time to go through candidates and make an informed hire. How long do you think other teams take to hire their GM? And why do you think they will all have hired someone by June 1st?

It takes a lot more time for a GM to get into a new team and go through that process, which has many different things to get up to speed on, than it takes to hire someone.

 

[Tak7]

It’s a bit concerning that we haven’t heard anything about other candidates yet.

Massively concerning.

We're hearing from insiders about player and staff thoughts within MLSE, and about GM searches from other organizations. But no one can provide even a whisper on who else the Leafs are speaking to?

That has me worried that this isn't a thorough & exhaustive GM search, being run by a team completely caught off guard by not having a GM currently, making it up as they go along.

 

[SprDaVE]

Massively concerning.

We're hearing from insiders about player and staff thoughts within MLSE, and about GM searches from other organizations. But no one can provide even a whisper on who else the Leafs are speaking to?

That has me worried that this isn't a thorough & exhaustive GM search, being run by a team completely caught off guard by not having a GM currently, making it up as they go along.

Dreger said they spoke to other candidates, and will speak to other candidates. They can't confirm who, only that Treliving is confirmed in some way.

 

[leafan11]

Why does everyone care it going to be Treliving? Last weeks events confirmed that it’s Shanny really running the show, so who really cares which puppet they pick?

 

[The Masters]

How long do you think it takes to interview someone and to hire someone for a position? 2-3 weeks is the timeline we're looking at and that seems ample time to go through candidates and make an informed hire. How long do you think other teams take to hire their GM? And why do you think they will all have hired someone by June 1st?

It takes a lot more time for a GM to get into a new team and go through that process, which has many different things to get up to speed on, than it takes to hire someone.

My timeline is around June 15 so lines up 3 weeks from now. I don't see it sooner unless Tre is their guy. But they just started the process so I expect at least another 5 candidates to be interviewed.

 

[SprDaVE]

My timeline is around June 15 so lines up 3 weeks from now. I don't see it sooner unless Tre is their guy. But they just started the process so I expect at least another 5 candidates to be interviewed.

You think it takes over a month to interview candidates? 5 candidates in 3 weeks? That's insane.