TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[Albz]

If Shanny has final say then your statement isn’t correct.

Lol it's obvious shanny has a say lol. And thank God he does. I don't know why people on here act like shanny doesn't know anything about hockey lol. If he was just a random business dude than I'd get all the pissing and moaning but he's not.

 

[nuck]

Someone really needs to be careful coming in here to GM.
It’s not easy to get the plot walking in at the middle of the movie and this new GM could/would be known as the guy who let core member X, walk for nothing.
I think anyone with high experience (or a comfortable role already in an organization) is going to steer clear for now.

Imagine if Treliving comes in here and Matthews/Nylander leave UFA.

Any GM is going to have risks thanks to the stacking of those NMs and the failure of the club to move forward year after year but $5M x 5 is a big carrot. And if you fail Pittsburgh or someone else will still want you if you show strong moves and some good decisions even without the success.

Shanahan will be the next one fired, not the new coach or GM and if Matty goes because he wants $14 x 4 that isn't on the GM, its the player. Whatever Matthews deal might be declined, its would be with President and Board approval.

I actually get the feeling the club might let itself get bent over again rather than break up the band unless Matthews flat refuses to sign an extension (and maybe not even then). Teams that have strong regular seasons think they are contenders whether they are or not and will cling desperately to the players that made them 80 game terrors. So the board will support pretty much any demand and if Matthews leaves its because he wanted to play elsewhere. As far as Willie goes, he won't be playing here in his walk year so not the same threat.

 

[DarkKnight]

Why does everyone care it going to be Treliving? Last weeks events confirmed that it’s Shanny really running the show, so who really cares which puppet they pick?

If Shanny was running the show, explain how the Soo connections are everywhere? This idea that Dubas was handcuffed is garbage spin. Everyone has a boss, ditto Shanny.

 

[DarkKnight]

Can we just have a GM search thread, ths discussion here is much wider than him.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Once Matthews, Marner and Nylander are signed there won’t be a lot of room left to give any significant long term contracts to guys in their 30’s.

Well if Muzzin's career is over and we move Murray and possibly Brodie, he would have plenty of room to screw us quick lol.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

Worse at contracts than Dubas? Come on now

Did you see the list of bad contracts he signed on the Flames? The only terrible, immovable contract Dubas has was Tavares.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

I’m not sold on him at all, checkered is the best way to describe his legacy but you could do the same with our guy. The real kicker for me is signing guys so old, reeks of buyouts and salary hell.

Exactly

 

[SprDaVE]

A very good dive by MLHS on Treliving.

Evaluating Brad Treliving's Candidacy for Maple Leafs GM: The Draft, Trade, and Contract History

Since Kyle Dubas was let go last week by the Maple Leafs, speculation about a replacement for the GM position has largely centered on one name: Brad Treliving. The former Calgary Flames GM has been connected to the Leafs for some time in the media. At the very least, he appears to be among the […]

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[WTFMAN99]

Any other names get leaked for the interviews?

 

[SprDaVE]

Any other names get leaked for the interviews?

Bergevin and Botterill seems to be 2 that are pretty much confirmed.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Bergevin and Botterill seems to be one that's pretty much confirmed.

If that’s whe pool of candidates Treliving is the best one to hire. Not that that’s saying much.

 

[Rude Dog]

Bergevin and Botterill seems to be 2 that are pretty much confirmed.

I think Shanny is just throwing those names out there, so we feel better when it's Brad and not the others. Might as well throw JFJ and Benning in there. Veteran move.

 

[Menzinger]

Bergevin and Botterill seems to be 2 that are pretty much confirmed.

Looks like Shanny mostly focusing on guys who have been GMs in the past.

A really mediocre bunch at the moment. Id hope he reaches out to Shero who I think is potentially the best available. Trevling probably the next after I guess.

Bergevin is fun from an entertainment pov. Terrifying from a hockey ops pov

 

[thusk]

Wolf is as proven as Woll. I'll give you Andersson, but lindholm is a 2C on a contender.

Treliving had 8-9 years and he built a mediocre team with a mediocre future.

He's not a good GM.

Like i said, lindholm is not a top 15 C like matthews, mcdavid or whatever but certainly somewhere 16 to 32...For me hes in the same category than a aho, point, miller.

Wolf is younger (22) and already did more than Woll at 24. He just won back to back goalie of the years in AHL

A mediocre team... if you took expected goal last 3 season cumulated... the only team who had a best expected against than calgary is Boston Bruins. Its not really my definition of mediocre team.

Calgary had a goaltender problem, they tried to fix it with Markstrom, was working first season... if Markstrom can come back like last season or Wolf step up...

 

[SprDaVE]

Looks like Shanny mostly focusing on guys who have been GMs in the past.

A really mediocre bunch at the moment. Id hope he reaches out to Shero who I think is potentially the best available. Trevling probably the next after I guess.

Bergevin is fun from an entertainment pov. Terrifying from a hockey ops pov

Doug Wilson would be one that would be interesting. Not sure about his health and retirement though.

I am surprised Shero isn't on that short list (yet). I feel like he fits a whole lot more than Chiarelli.

Bergevin has similar track record to Treliving in that there's a lot of good but a lot of bad. He traded a big time fan favourite for an older but better player. It ended up being good for them. I think he's a legit candidate for another shot.

 

[Raymondo316]

We really are scraping the bottom of the barrel with these candidates

 

[Martin Skoula]

100% city. Fox wanted to play in New York. Tkachuk anted to stay in Calgary long term. But he was asking for too much on an 8 year deal. Brad being a good GM told him they can’t do that because they won’t have the money to pay others and they couldn’t put a competitive team around him. (Tkachuk confirms this on his most recent appearance on spitting chicklets). Isn’t that what we want enforced here for our team?

So they couldn’t afford Tkachuk at 9.5 but have no problem paying Huberdeau 10.5 until he’s 90?

 

[WTFMAN99]

Bergevin and Botterill seems to be 2 that are pretty much confirmed.

Botterill

2017-2019 drafts as he got fired June of 2020

2017 - Mittelstadt, Luukonen, Bryson
2018 - Dahlin, Samuelsson
2019 - Cozens, Johnson (prospect)


Notable Trades

Ennis, Foligno, 3rd for Scandella, Pominville, 4th

Traded Kane for 1st and 4th

Traded ROR for 1st, 2nd, Sobotka, Berglund and Tage Thompson

Acquired Skinner for Pu, 2nd, 3rd and 6th round picks

Acquired Montour for a 1st and B.Guhle

Acquired Colin Miller for 2nd and 5th round picks

Acquired Joker from Chicago for Alex Nylander

Acquired Kohun for Sheary and Rodrigues

I think he did better than I initially thought when the trades were announced.

 

[IPS]

Traded ROR for 1st, 2nd, Sobotka, Berglund and Tage Thompson

That has to be one of the biggest win-win trades I've ever seen.

 

[Brobust]

Bergevin and Botterill seems to be 2 that are pretty much confirmed.

I want Kyle Dubas gone.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Like i said, lindholm is not a top 15 C like matthews, mcdavid or whatever but certainly somewhere 16 to 32...For me hes in the same category than a aho, point, miller.

Wolf is younger (22) and already did more than Woll at 24. He just won back to back goalie of the years in AHL

A mediocre team... if you took expected goal last 3 season cumulated... the only team who had a best expected against than calgary is Boston Bruins. Its not really my definition of mediocre team.

Calgary had a goaltender problem, they tried to fix it with Markstrom, was working first season... if Markstrom can come back like last season or Wolf step up...

This is your guy...seriously

 

[francis246]

Doug Wilson would be one that would be interesting. Not sure about his health and retirement though.

I am surprised Shero isn't on that short list (yet). I feel like he fits a whole lot more than Chiarelli.

Bergevin has similar track record to Treliving in that there's a lot of good but a lot of bad. He traded a big time fan favourite for an older but better player. It ended up being good for them. I think he's a legit candidate for another shot.

I think Shero might be happy with his role in Minnesota? I think he was unfairly moved out of NJ. Most of NJ’s rebuild is thanks to him.

 

[thusk]

This is your guy...seriously

You can do this with exactly every GM in NHL, took a choice who didn't work like they was hoping for and find someone better ... pratically everybody saw Bennett in front of Draisaitl and some people was thinking Bennett was the best player of the draft...

 

[francis246]

This is your guy...seriously

Are we seriously pretending like Sam Bennett wasn’t a top prospect at the time? Bennett had 91 points in 57 games and was physical, two way in the OHL. He was probably the 2nd most NHL ready prospect in that 2014 draft at the time. Bennett also went one pick AFTER DRAISAITL. What is he supposed to do? Not be happy he got a good pick lol?

So they couldn’t afford Tkachuk at 9.5 but have no problem paying Huberdeau 10.5 until he’s 90?

Tkachuk’s Calgary number wasn’t 9.5. I’m pretty sure it was closer to Matthews/Marner. Tkachuk took less to play in Florida because of that no state tax.

 

[thusk]

So they couldn’t afford Tkachuk at 9.5 but have no problem paying Huberdeau 10.5 until he’s 90?

Are we seriously pretending like Sam Bennett wasn’t a top prospect at the time? Bennett had 91 points in 57 games and was physical, two way in the OHL. He was probably the 2nd most NHL ready prospect in that 2014 draft at the time. Bennett also went one pick AFTER DRAISAITL. What is he supposed to do? Not be happy he got a good pick lol?



Tkachuk’s Calgary number wasn’t 9.5. I’m pretty sure it was closer to Matthews/Marner. Tkachuk took less to play in Florida because of that no state tax.

9,5 M

Calgary you will pay
4 522 432 in taxes

In florida
3 475 332

Difference in taxes paid
1 047 100

So at the end the 10.5 of huberdeau is basically the same than the 9,5M of Tkachuk