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A1LeafNation said:
No #1 C, no #1D, no #1G, no real chance honestly.

Hopefully he doesn't bring that half-assed GMing to the Leafs.
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Lindholm is a #1 C, not a top 10 in NHL but still a #1 C

Andersson is an underrated D, in my mins hes a #1 but if hes not, hes extremely close

Wolfe is probably the best G outside of NHL right now. Hes not a #1 right now but im pretty sure he will become a great goali really soon

Try again
 
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acrobaticgoalie said:
Fox didn't want to play in Canada and only wanted to play for the Rangers. He also wanted out of Carolina shortly after.

Once Gaudreau left, he wasn't going to re-sign.

Again, you dont usually hit a homerun on a situation you have no leverage in. He did as well as anyone could do on that Tkachuk trade.

His signings defintely suck though



Conroy already stated he wants to create an environment where guys can be excited to come to work. The exact opposite of the situation with Sutter behind the bench. I fully expect that team to have a bounce back year. Maybe not a contender but a solid year and get back to the playoffs.
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Yeah, Flames have had up and down seasons year to year, I expect this one to be an upswing year.

Not that it really matters too much to us. Whether we get Treliving or not it's not like the Leafs will start having behavioral traits as the Flames.
 
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The Masters said:
Not sure but he only has 1 year left

I dont buy Shanny will hire someone within a week. Seems too premature. I say 3 weeks from now so around June 15. I think Shanny just started and will be interviewing at least 5 top end people for the gig.
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I think by next Friday. June 15th seems a bit late.
 
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Stephen said:
Yeah, Flames have had up and down seasons year to year, I expect this one to be an upswing year.

Not that it really matters too much to us. Whether we get Treliving or not it's not like the Leafs will start having behavioral traits as the Flames.
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I don't see Treliving really moving the needle for us or being a better GM than Dubas. Maybe better at trades, worse at contracts and maybe the same or slightly better at drafting.

I can't see that being the solid change this organization needs.
 
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Also, considering the way the contracts are structured, these negotiations look even worse on Dubas. A no-trade for an RFA on the same day he has to agree to a deal? I mean, what in the...

It could very well handcuff the team to be forced to trade Matthews, there is very little room for error. Less pressure for Nylander, but a 10 team option is also limiting.
 
A1LeafNation said:
No #1 C, no #1D, no #1G, no real chance honestly.

Hopefully he doesn't bring that half-assed GMing to the Leafs.
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Elias lindholm is a no 1C.

They have a balanced D and markstrom has been a star goalie for a long time. It’s unclear if Mcdavid broke him or Sutter or fears about his child birth.

They don’t have a true no 1 d but about 3 d who have been successful on top pairs

I would easily trade his drafting/developing and trading record.

Dubas was great at filling round the edges. Unclear how much that has to do with Toronto or just him
 
looks like we’re getting this guy. so, i mean, it’s meh…. i guess let’s give Tre a chance. what’s the worst that can happen? we don’t get past the first round?
 
acrobaticgoalie said:
I don't see Treliving really moving the needle for us or being a better GM than Dubas. Maybe better at trades, worse at contracts and maybe the same or slightly better at drafting.
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Your second sentence either has him on par or moving the needle doesn’t it? And I’m very conflicted about him.
 
Wrong Wilson said:
1. Not a lot of GM openings right now (maybe only the Leafs at this point).
2. It's the Leafs - maybe the most coveted front office position in the NHL
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Anyone interested in leafs gm is probably extremely arrogant and has a huge ego thinking they can lead them to promise land. Dubas was different as he was pretty obsure and just kind of ended up. Regardless of the extra drama, i think we were due for a change. 5 years is a big enough window imo to do something, especially when you start with tavares, matthews, marner, and nylander.

Im not sure people are lining up for leafs gm position when they can have similar position with the extra baggage that comes with working in this market.

Not sure if treliving is the guy or not to lead us to the promise land. I think he would be ok. The biggest change he would probably make would be to the coach which would be a good first step imo.

Personally, I want to see pridham get a shot. Keep him as interm gm for a year and see what he can do. He should be able to handle new contracts for the fellas.
 
Treliving is the safe option here to be the GM, fills the boxes Shanahan is looking for; experienced and has made tough decisions and trades. There's probably better then him but riskier, and theres definitely a lot worse then him.

Pros: Good drafting and makes some good trades

Cons: Has had star UFA players leave on him, and the biggest worry about him IMO.. free agent signings like Lucic / Markstrom /(I think giving out term/money to goalies is far to risky) and Kadri. Toronto doesn't have a lot of money to work with most years, but they simply cannot afford to handcuff themselves by giving out bad contracts.

Another question is, is he able to find diamond in the roughs in free agency?, or is he going to have to trade to support the team.
 
Treliving botched the Gaudreau re-signing.

Lost him to free agency. It was a huge black mark on his record. A big reason why he left the Flames.

What makes anyone think he will get it right this time with Matthews?

Treliving is a good, not great, GM. His pedigree is modest. Is he a better GM than Dubas?

Debatable.

But at least they're trying something different. They might still lose. Or they might not.

One thing is for sure, Leafs fans will continue to be entertained by the shenanigans of the front office just as much as the on-ice product.

At this point I don't think Shanahan has a clue how to fix the mess Dubas has made. "We can and we will" has been a massive boondoggle on the world's largest hockey stage. Dubas gambled on both the payroll and roster construction and lost.

They are quickly running out of time before Matthews can abandon this sinking ship as a result.
 
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DarkKnight said:
Your second sentence either has him on par or moving the needle doesn’t it? And I’m very conflicted about him.
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Maybe. Looking at his signing history though has me thinking we would be in worse shape. That's a whole lot of long term contracts to guys in their 30s. If he brings that trend here, we could be in really bad shape, really fast.
 
Wrong Wilson said:
2. It's the Leafs - maybe the most coveted front office position in the NHL
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Yeah. Everyone loves having to run their ideas past multiple ownership groups and office people above them. There are too few cooks in the kitchen if you ask them
 
TMLBlueandWhite said:
Treliving botched the Gaudreau re-signing.

Lost him to free agency. It was a huge black mark on his record. A big reason why he left the Flames.

What makes anyone think he will get it right this time with Matthews?

Treliving is a good, not great, GM. His pedigree is modest. Is he a better GM than Dubas?

Debatable.

But at least they're trying something different. They might still lose. Or they might not.

One thing is for sure, Leafs fans will continue to be entertained by the shenanigans of the front office just as much as the on-ice product.

At this point I don't think Shanahan has a clue how to fix the mess Dubas has made. "We can and we will" has been a massive boondoggle on the world's largest hockey stage. Dubas gambled on both the payroll and roster construction and lost.

They are quickly running out of time before Matthews can abandon this sinking ship as a result.
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You could look at the lost players two ways. One way he learns from his mistakes and will never do that again and has said as much to Shanahan. The other, he's just dumb.

So, if we do get him I can just hope he learned from his mistakes.
 
BallardEra said:
I'd say Shanahan is equally responsible for this mess if not more so.
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I blame Tanenbaum even more.

He's the one that supported the Dumbnamic Duo's dumb decisions all these years.

thewave said:
You could look at the lost players two ways. One way he learns from his mistakes and will never do that again and has said as much to Shanahan. The other, he's just dumb.

So, if we do get him I can just hope he learned from his mistakes.
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Dubas never learned from his mistakes. He was dumb too. Shanahan kept that loser around long enough.

If Treliving brings Sutter with him this team is gonna suck again.
 
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acrobaticgoalie said:
Maybe. Looking at his signing history though has me thinking we would be in worse shape. That's a whole lot of long term contracts to guys in their 30s. If he brings that trend here, we could be in really bad shape, really fast.
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Once Matthews, Marner and Nylander are signed there won’t be a lot of room left to give any significant long term contracts to guys in their 30’s.
 
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ACC1224 said:
Once Matthews, Marner and Nylander are signed there won’t be a lot of room left to give any significant long term contracts to guys in their 30’s.
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This is the time where guys like Knies, Amirov, Robertson and Co supposed to be coming in and shoring up your lineup on the cheap. Too bad we had 3 years of Hunter's botched drafts - huge black hole in the organization.
 
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