TSN: Leafs set to interview Treliving for GM role

[andora]

Treliving is by a mile the best GM available.

People who want Tulsky - a rookie GM - to run this franchise a month out from having to re-sign Matthews, and make decisions on the core four are out of their minds.

He doesn't have experience being the man at the top - negotiating contracts, negotiating deals around the league, dealing with the media, fostering relationships with other GMs, Managing culture, etc .

He would be coming from a AGM role in Carolina (lol) to TORONTO, the biggest/highest pressure market in hockey.

He does most of the work there already though afaik

 

[Leafs87]

If you are hoping for a rebuild here be prepared to be upset because it's not happening

I am not. I was simply stating he didn’t have autonomy to do what that team needed. Just cause that team needed a rebuild doesn’t mean this one does.

 

[andora]

If the rumours are true about Shanny being the guy pulling the strings and micromanaging the GM, I have two questions:

1. What experienced GM would want to take on this mess under those conditions… being Shanny’s puppet?

2. Does it really matter who Shanny brings in, if he’s planning on controlling how the GM handles everything?

If you look at dubas moves and you were president wouldnt you maybe get involved as well?

 

[andora]

You conveniently left out the most egregious blunders of Dubas' tenure:

- The Tavares contact is an anchor no matter how you spin it

- The term on Matthews' and Marner's contracts were 2-3 years too short given their AAVs

- The Kadri trade - need I say more?

- The Foligno trade - massive overpay

- Letting Hyman walk for a million in AAV

- Mrazek - terrible gamle that cost us assets

- Murray - cost to rid his contract TBD

- The Marchment trade

I try and stay neutral on some of this dtuff but what pisses me off about the foligno trade is failing to identify Noesen as an effective player

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

A pretty massive joke that Treliving is basically the only candidate it seems.

 

[mydnyte]

I seriously want them to talk to Poile and see if he's willing to un-retire.
he's only ever had a good defense/goaltending in Nashville and never had the chances to get top forwards but, his drafting and trades are high end
getting a chance with an offense as stacked as the leafs that only needs the defense (which seems to be his specialty) thats a match i like. ...add his ability to make deals that leave people shaking their heads as to how they possibly got the returns he did, makes him even more worthy.
i.e. the Forsberg trade, and TB's laughable disaster of a trade.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Didn't seem to effect McDrais. They signed new contracts there and McD gave them 8 years where as AM only 5. Makes you wonder ??

Alberta has no provincial income tax.

3 of the 4 remaining US teams have no state income taxes or very low.

Helps to lock up 100pts guys at 8M

 

[thewave]

Didn't seem to effect McDrais. They signed new contracts there and McD gave them 8 years where as AM only 5. Makes you wonder ??

That's a good point. So are you suggesting we have poor character leaders?

 

[Suntouchable13]

I seriously want them to talk to Poile and see if he's willing to un-retire.
he's only ever had a good defense/goaltending in Nashville and never had the chances to get top forwards but, his drafting and trades are high end
getting a chance with an offense as stacked as the leafs that only needs the defense (which seems to be his specialty) thats a match i like. ...add his ability to make deals that leave people shaking their heads as to how they possibly got the returns he did, makes him even more worthy.
i.e. the Forsberg trade, and TB's laughable disaster of a trade.

Defense wasn’t the issue. It’s the “stacked offence” not scoring.

 

[Magic Man]

Bergevin and Treliving have almost an identical track record. They were both GM's of Canadian markets for around 9 seasons. Treliving has 5 playoff seasons, Bergevin has 6. Treliving has 2 series wins, Bergevin has 7 series wins. Why should Treliving start with the edge?

 

[Squiffy]

Bergevin and Treliving have almost an identical track record. They were both GM's of Canadian markets for around 9 seasons. Treliving has 5 playoff seasons, Bergevin has 6. Treliving has 2 series wins, Bergevin has 7 series wins. Why should Treliving start with the edge?

Comprehensively not from the Habs.

 

[ShaneFalco]

A pretty massive joke that Treliving is basically the only candidate it seems.

Not sure how you come to that conclusion.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

I'm not a Treliving fan either but those of you that are upset that we may not hire Tulsky is hilarious. So you want an unproven inexperienced manager to lead us through a period where we need to sign some of our stars. Hmmm, sounds like the time we hired Dubas and we know how that turned out. Open the bank for players who have earned squat and cap strap us for 5 years.

 

[mydnyte]

Defense wasn’t the issue. It’s the “stacked offence” not scoring.

that is also a result of the defense... how often were we trapped in its own zone because our defense couldnt get the puck out when they had full control of it, and lost possession?
it's also the system we used, and the coach never adapting to the changes in the style of play.

if someone asks us what 'style' do the Leafs use, whats the answer?
in reality, we played the style of every team we played against.
we never set the tone, or the pace, or the style of play, we always adapted to the other teams style, and in the regular season were lucky enough to out talent other teams.

 

[theTTC]

A pretty massive joke that Treliving is basically the only candidate it seems.

Like Kyper pointed out, it goes to show that Dubas did bushwack Shanahan with salary and power grab demands at the very last minute. Shanny figuring a deal was done with Kyle a couple weeks earlier, so didn't prep with a Plan B just in case.

Dubas planned his contract to expire just as critical NMNT clauses kicked in for some of the Core Fore. Leading them to believe he was going to sign earlier, figured he'd have MLSE over a barrel, they'd have to accept his premeditated backstabbing demands or they'd be f*****. Totally shows what a slimy mercenary he is - so many here fooled by boyish demeanour, the "family" thing he trotted out, and the fake glasses. Welcome to harsh reality.

 

[mydnyte]

Didn't seem to effect McDrais. They signed new contracts there and McD gave them 8 years where as AM only 5. Makes you wonder ??

Matthews wanted to sign for 8, but was asked to sign for 5 and he did it for the team.
When Drais signed his contract everyone thought it was an insane overpay, but, we were proven wrong in his case. McD was a no brainer, and the Oil didnt need cap space to sign a Marner level talent

 

[ShaneFalco]

that is also a result of the defense... how often were we trapped in its own zone because our defense couldnt get the puck out when they had full control of it, and lost possession?
it's also the system we used, and the coach never adapting to the changes in the style of play.

if someone asks us what 'style' do the Leafs use, whats the answer?
in reality, we played the style of every team we played against.
we never set the tone, or the pace, or the style of play, we always adapted to the other teams style, and in the regular season were lucky enough to out talent other teams.

And other than Rielly, the D provides no offence whatsoever

 

[andora]

Not everyone wants to be a GM though.

And that is fine.. if he is content in his role pay him and let him be a glue guy. Good agms are like awesome third lines

 

[themilosh]

Bergevin and Treliving have almost an identical track record. They were both GM's of Canadian markets for around 9 seasons. Treliving has 5 playoff seasons, Bergevin has 6. Treliving has 2 series wins, Bergevin has 7 series wins. Why should Treliving start with the edge?

Habs fan here.. imo Bergevin (like Dubas) was way too close with his players, and we know how that turned out.. however, he was very respected by them.
Possibly if he's learned his lesson, he could be quite the builder. Treliving had a tough time keeping players happy in Calgary, but can you blame him?

Either one of these guys would be a fit in Toronto. You're not in a bad spot.
Depends which of the big 4 will be shipped out, and what the return is.

 

[HandshakeLineRespect]

Dufas traded away all our draft picks i dont know why everyone is freaking out about the draft. Tree also drafted a Norris winner in the 3rd round so lets give the guy some credit.

 

[mydnyte]

And other than Rielly, the D provides no offence whatsoever

and the only 2 that could actually produce offense Lil, and Timmins were benched, and Lil was never even used in an offensive spot.
Now, because of how he was under-used, Timmins couldnt play, but, Holl over Lil is a joke, and then not even trying him on PP2 when Lil can 1 time the puck and has offensive potential is just bad.
Keefe also didnt use him properly in the AHL either, its lucky he developed the defensive side as much as he did.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Not sure how you come to that conclusion.

 

[mydnyte]

Dufas traded away all our draft picks i dont know why everyone is freaking out about the draft. Tree also drafted a Norris winner in the 3rd round so lets give the guy some credit.

and traded him as a toss in

 

[Mickey Marner]

Alberta has no provincial income tax.

3 of the 4 remaining US teams have no state income taxes or very low.

Helps to lock up 100pts guys at 8M

Alberta has provincial income tax, they don’t have provincial sales tax. Better take home pay than Ontario, but not anywhere near Florida, Nevada or Texas.

 

[Trapper]

The new GM only has one thing to do when it gets here so the job will be easy.
To Las Vegas: Matthews + everyone else.
To Toronto: Las Vegas.