GDT: Leafs @ Panthers - 7pm - Knies era begins

[notbias]

We don't get an emergency recall but Stone looks like he will be healthy for Game 1... good job NHL

 

[Torontonian]

Start the ATO tomorrow against Tampa just for fun. f*** it.

I would start them tonight to show Gary and the NHL up for the bullshit the Leafs have to go through.

Big playoff implications on the line tonight for FLA/PItts/Islanders and you deny the recall of a emergency backup goalie... If Toronto did play the ATO, the league would look real bad.

 

[Hellcat]

His hands look silky smooth to me.

Obviously can get better... but nope, he has good hands.

His hands in tight seem to be particularly good.

I think his hands are some of his best attributes.

People are acting like he is some big unskilled power forward.

I don't think he is unskilled, I think he is a 20 year old developing young man and thinks a game at a very high level, a level that his developing body does not always execute in a silky smooth pro level. I think with time and development, he's going to be a great asset and the professional polish will come with time.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I would start them to show Gary and the NHL up for the bullshit the Leafs have to go through.

Big playoff implications on the line tonight for FLA/PItts/Islanders and you deny the recall of a emergency backup goalie... If Toronto did play the ATO, the league would look real bad.

Oh the petty side of me would be so god damn tempted to start the ATO tonight lol it would turn into such a shit show. Would be glorious.

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

Lol. Okay Gary, it’s your league. Leave the fate of one of your biggest American markets making the playoffs on the hope that Florida doesn’t play dirty pool and injure our starter to face the ATO goalie.

 

[al secord]

Start the ATO, watch the world burn. My liver is ready.

 

[Hellcat]

#23 but not yet confirmed about tn:

All the great #23's inthe Leafs past

Al Rollins 1951-1952

Hugh Bolton 1953

Ray Timgren 1953-1955

Bob Bailey 1954-1955

Danny Lewicki 1954

Dave Creighton 1955

Gord Hannigan 1956

Noel Price 1958-1959

Joe Crozier 1960

Pat Hannigan 1960

Eddie Shack 1961-1975

André Hinse 1968

Pat Quinn 1969-1970

Billy MacMillan 1971

Dale Smedsmo 1973

Randy Carlyle 1977-1978

Dave Hutchison 1979-1980

Dave Farrish 1980-1981

John Gibson 1982

Vitezslav Duris 1983

Ken Strong 1983-1984

Pat Graham 1984

Jeff Brubaker 1985-1986

Todd Gill 1986-1996

Jeff Ware 1997-1998

Petr Svoboda 2001

Harold Druken 2003

Alexei Ponikarovsky 2003-2010

Brett Lebda 2011

Ryan O'Byrne 2013

Trevor Smith 2014-2015

Brooks Laich 2016

Shawn Matthias 2016

Eric Fehr 2017-2018

Travis Dermo

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Lol. Okay Gary, it’s your league. Leave the fate of one of your biggest American markets making the playoffs on the hope that Florida doesn’t play dirty pool and injure our starter to face the ATO goalie.

They breath on Sammy tonight he should be coming out. Like Tkachuk gets in his general direction out he comes and in goes the ATO.

 

[mouser]

Because the NHL hates Toronto. Like honestly. Yesterday Boston recalled 6 players on an emergency basis with no issue, but the Leafs can’t emergency recall Woll even though Murray banged his head and is well known to have injury issues.



There’s no good reason to not allow it, especially when this game has playoff implications for Florida and two other teams. It’s bush league that Woll can’t be recalled, but Vegas can parade Mark Stone a week before the playoffs and Arizona can acquire all the retired guys they want to reach the cap floor.

Emergency Recall and Roster Emergency Exception are two different things.

Emergency Recall requires cap space. Toronto recently used Emergency Recalls on Simmonds and Woll for example. The Boston recalls are all normal Emergency Recalls.

Roster Emergency Exception allows a team with insufficient cap space to recall a player with a $0 cap hit. That is what was denied: the NHL most likely determined Toronto had the cap space to recall Woll after sending Simmonds down, but instead used that cap to sign Knies. Once Simmonds went to the AHL there was no longer an emergency.

 

[leafsfan5]

So what's gonna happen tomorrow? We will have to play Sam or what? This is not ideal

Under no circumstance should we play Samsonov b2b the week before playoffs, especially when everything is already decided

Throw the game, it means nothing

 

[notbias]

Lol. Okay Gary, it’s your league. Leave the fate of one of your biggest American markets making the playoffs on the hope that Florida doesn’t play dirty pool and injure our starter to face the ATO goalie.

Tampa has created their own cap in years past, but this is an issue.

 

[Smif]

Rest then stars + start the EBUG tomorrow

I was told the EBUG couldn't play unless there was an actual injury.

 

[Hellcat]

This league is f***ed.



Like Papetti says, the parties with the biggest issue to this will be Pittsburgh and the Islanders if the ATO has to play and he gets torched. Not our fault this league has it out for the Leafs and won’t permit an emergency call up.

My memory might be f-ed but I seem to vaguely recall a few years ago, NYI did some shady shit that helped a team make the playoffs and it eliminated us. Something like they were resting players and gave two easy points to the team we were fighting for the last playoff spot. Comes around goes around. For all the teams that thought it was a joke to claim every player we put on waivers, F U, we owe no one, no favors.

 

[leafsfan5]

I was told the EBUG couldn't play unless there was an actual injury.

Well then we say "oh no Samsonov is experiencing soreness" and throw the EBUG in anyways

 

[leafsfan2point0]

It’s more than obvious the Leafs have a different set of rules.

Imagine if Muzzin was healthy and we brought him back for game 1. We would lose our 1st round pick for multiple years.

 

[ToneDog]

I was told the EBUG couldn't play unless there was an actual injury.

EBUG played vs Habs.

 

[Leafidelity]

Tampa has created their own cap in years past, but this is an issue.

That's different, Tampa Bay is one of Gary's teams

 

[TheBeastCoast]

I was told the EBUG couldn't play unless there was an actual injury.

This technically isn't an EBUG. He is the backup goalie on an ATO.

 

[Hellcat]

I could be completely off the plot but my understanding is it is to late in the season to put Murray on LTIR. So to be able to sign Knies they couldn't fit Woll in...league wouldn't let him be an emergency recall for tonight because the Leafs used the extra cap space on signing Knies and not filling in a 2nd goalie.

It's how I understand it too.

 

[francis246]

My memory might be f-ed but I seem to vaguely recall a few years ago, NYI did some shady shit that helped a team make the playoffs and it eliminated us. Something like they were resting players and gave two easy points to the team we were fighting for the last playoff spot. Comes around goes around. For all the teams that thought it was a joke to claim every player we put on waivers, F U, we owe no one, no favors.

NJ rested Martin Brodeur and NYI ended up winning in the shootout, eliminating us from the playoffs.

 

[Hellcat]

I was told the EBUG couldn't play unless there was an actual injury.

Put Rielly in nets. Maybe he learns how to play defence.

 

[tmlfan98]

Emergency Recall and Roster Emergency Exception are two different things.

Emergency Recall requires cap space. Toronto recently used Emergency Recalls on Simmonds and Woll for example. The Boston recalls are all normal Emergency Recalls.

Roster Emergency Exception allows a team with insufficient cap space to recall a player with a $0 cap hit. That is what was denied: the NHL most likely determined Toronto had the cap space to recall Woll after sending Simmonds down, but instead used that cap to sign Knies. Once Simmonds went to the AHL there was no longer an emergency.

The thing that still doesn't make sense about this is that even with Knies playing tonight, the Lafferty and Jarnkrok minor injuries leave the Leafs with only 11 healthy forwards on the roster right now. So basically Gary expected the Leafs to run 10F tonight?

Even for the last game, if they had recalled Woll instead of Simmonds for that game, they would have only played with 11F, which I'm pretty sure still would have created the conditions to use a roster emergency exception, except with a forward instead of goalie.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

My memory might be f-ed but I seem to vaguely recall a few years ago, NYI did some shady shit that helped a team make the playoffs and it eliminated us. Something like they were resting players and gave two easy points to the team we were fighting for the last playoff spot. Comes around goes around. For all the teams that thought it was a joke to claim every player we put on waivers, F U, we owe no one, no favors.

Should use Wade Dubielewicz as our EBUG

 

[Hellcat]

NJ rested Martin Brodeur and NYI ended up winning in the shootout, eliminating us from the playoffs.

That's it! Apparently my memory's not what it use to be. Thanks.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

If the Leafs are ahead late in game tonight Sammy should fake an injury. Force NHL hand to allow Woll up tomorrow.