Leafs Offseason: Alot of big decisions, 17 key ones [Dubas(gone), Matthews, Marner, Nylander are biggies]

[HamiltonNHL]

Coach Keefe - has a contract for next year
GM Dubas - no contract for next year (5 year contract ended)
President Shanahan - has a contract for next year.

=== No movement clauses kick in July 1, 2023.===
Matthews, Auston "A" $11,640,250
Marner, Mitchell "A" $10,903,000 - 2 UFA years.

=== M-NTC kicks in July 1, 2023.===
Nylander, William $6,962,366

== RFA ==
Samsonov, Ilya 1 RFA $1,800,000


== UFA forwards ==
O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000
Kämpf, David $1,500,000
Acciari, Noel $1,250,000
Bunting, Michael $950,000
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630


== UFA Defence ==
Holl, Justin $2,000,000
Schenn, Luke $850,000
Gustafsson, Erik $800,000


Dates -
The draft June 28-29


== Walk / not come back / Trade ==
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000 (retiring)
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000 (can't afford to re-sign)

	Issue	Priority / Potential impact	AAV	options before July 1
Matthews	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	11.6	sign or trade
Marner	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	10.9	trade only
Nylander	M-NTC kicks in July 1	HIGH	6.9	sign or trade
Dubas	alot of work to do, not a time for "No GM"	HIGH
Samsonov	RFA	medium	1.8

Am I missing anything important ?



I'd say the 4 big big priorities are Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Dubas.

With all the work needing to be done, I think Dubas gets extended VERY soon.

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[koyvoo]

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Coach Keefe - has a contract for next year
GM Dubas - no contract for next year (5 year contract ended)
President Shanahan - has a contract for next year.

=== No movement clauses kick in July 1, 2023.===
Matthews, Auston "A" $11,640,250
Marner, Mitchell "A" $10,903,000 - 3 UFA years.

=== M-NTC kicks in July 1, 2023.===
Nylander, William $6,962,366

== RFA ==
Samsonov, Ilya 1 RFA $1,800,000


== UFA forwards ==
O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000
Kämpf, David $1,500,000
Acciari, Noel $1,250,000
Bunting, Michael $950,000
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630


== UFA Defence ==
Holl, Justin $2,000,000
Schenn, Luke $850,000
Gustafsson, Erik $800,000


Dates -
The draft June 28-29


== Walk / not come back / Trade ==
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000 (retiring)
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000 (can't afford to re-sign)

	Issue	Priority / Potential impact	AAV
Matthews	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	11.6
Marner	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	10.9
Nylander	M-NTC kicks in July 1	HIGH	6.9
Dubas	alot of work to do, not a time for "No GM"	HIGH
Samsonov	UFA	medium	1.8

Am I missing anything important ?



I'd say the 4 big big priorities are Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Dubas.

With all the work needing to be done, I think Dubas gets extended VERY soon.

Have to remember that Dubas holds power here too. He may not want to extend.

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Have to remember that Dubas holds power here too. He may not want to extend.

and leave his boy Keefe ?

DOUBT it.

That would be an interesting move.

Have to remember that Dubas holds power here too. He may not want to extend.

I think they've already worked out a deal, but didn't want to announce it until it was politically correct (after the playoffs).

I think a new GM will have MAJOR problems making deals with Matthews, Marner and Nylander. letting Dubas go would be potentially triggering a rebuild.

 

[thewave]

Coach Keefe - has a contract for next year

Fire

GM Dubas - no contract for next year (5 year contract ended)

Fire

President Shanahan - has a contract for next year.

Fire

=== No movement clauses kick in July 1, 2023.===
Matthews, Auston "A" $11,640,250

Signs or trade

Marner, Mitchell "A" $10,903,000 - 3 UFA years.

Trade

=== M-NTC kicks in July 1, 2023.===
Nylander, William $6,962,366

Signs or trade

== RFA ==
Samsonov, Ilya 1 RFA $1,800,000

Sign

== UFA forwards ==
O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000

Sign

Kämpf, David $1,500,000

Sign

Acciari, Noel $1,250,000

Sign

Bunting, Michael $950,000

Sign

Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630

Let go

== UFA Defence ==
Holl, Justin $2,000,000

Let go

Schenn, Luke $850,000

Sign

Gustafsson, Erik $800,000

Sign for the right price maybe, not sure.

Dates -
The draft June 28-29


== Walk / not come back / Trade ==
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000 (retiring)
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000 (can't afford to re-sign)

	Issue	Priority / Potential impact	AAV
Matthews	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	11.6
Marner	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	10.9
Nylander	M-NTC kicks in July 1	HIGH	6.9
Dubas	alot of work to do, not a time for "No GM"	HIGH
Samsonov	UFA	medium	1.8

Am I missing anything important ?



I'd say the 4 big big priorities are Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Dubas.

With all the work needing to be done, I think Dubas gets extended VERY soon.

Think you got everything.

 

[stealth1]

and leave his boy Keefe ?

DOUBT it.

That would be an interesting move.



I think they've already worked out a deal, but didn't want to announce it until it was politically correct (after the playoffs).

I think a new GM will have MAJOR problems making deals with Matthews, Marner and Nylander. letting Dubas go would be potentially triggering a rebuild.

You act like rebuilding would be a bad thing.

 

[Peace Frog]

and leave his boy Keefe ?

DOUBT it.

That would be an interesting move.



I think they've already worked out a deal, but didn't want to announce it until it was politically correct (after the playoffs).

I think a new GM will have MAJOR problems making deals with Matthews, Marner and Nylander. letting Dubas go would be potentially triggering a rebuild.

When it comes to the core of this team, a rebuild is exactly what is needed. How many times can you change the supporting cast and come out with squat, before you turn to the “core” of the problem?

 

[HamiltonNHL]

Coach Keefe has a contract for next year

low priority / offseason

GM Dubas - no contract for next year (5 year contract ended)

URGENT. I think he needs a 2 year deal today so he can get to work.

President Shanahan - has a contract for next year.

low priority. I'll fire Dubas and Shanny together when the day comes. I'd pink slip him.

=== No movement clauses kick in July 1, 2023.===

Matthews, Auston "A" $11,640,250

Sign or Trade

Marner, Mitchell "A" $10,903,000 - 3 UFA years.

Sign or Trade.

=== M-NTC kicks in July 1, 2023.===

Nylander, William $6,962,366

Sign or Trade.

== RFA ==

Samsonov, Ilya 1 RFA $1,800,000

Sign

== UFA forwards ==

O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000

Sign

Kämpf, David $1,500,000

Sign

Acciari, Noel $1,250,000

Sign

Bunting, Michael $950,000

Low Priority. Not a big decision.

Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630

Low Priority. Not a big decision.

== UFA Defence ==

Holl, Justin $2,000,000

trade.

Schenn, Luke $850,000

Sign

Gustafsson, Erik $800,000

Probably sign. not sure. low priority.

Dates -
The draft June 28-29


== Walk / not come back / Trade ==
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000 (retiring)

Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000 (can't afford to re-sign)

trade or walk.

a rebuild is exactly what is needed.

mini rebuild is AT a MINIMUM, moving Marner or Matthews. which one are you moving ?
full rebuild is trying to dump anyone over 6 AAV.

 

[stealth1]

low priority / offseason

URGENT. I think he needs a 2 year deal today so he can get to work.


low priority. I'll fire Dubas and Shanny together when the day comes. I'd pink slip him.

=== No movement clauses kick in July 1, 2023.===

Sign or Trade


Sign or Trade.

=== M-NTC kicks in July 1, 2023.===

Sign or Trade.

== RFA ==

Sign

== UFA forwards ==

Sign

Sign

Sign

Low Priority. Not a big decision.

Low Priority. Not a big decision.

== UFA Defence ==

trade.

Sign

Probably sign. not sure. low priority.

Dates -
The draft June 28-29


== Walk / not come back / Trade ==
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000 (retiring)

trade or walk.


mini rebuild is AT a MINIMUM, moving Marner or Matthews. which one are you moving ?
full rebuild is trying to dump anyone over 6 AAV.

You move both Matthews and Marner.

 

[thewave]

You move both Matthews and Marner.

Soft playmaker sure. Get a wing that will take a hit to make the play instead. Puck just needs to find Matthews stick. Now Matthews just need to commit to staying here, it's the only way. Not a good idea to let one of the best goal scorers of all time to just walk without an attempt to keep him.

 

[ACC1224]

Amazing how many threads exist now that day pretty much the same thing.

 

[TakeTheBody]

You act like rebuilding would be a bad thing.

IN this division it isn't easy. The Red Wings have been " re-building " eight years now. I'd rather tinker another year, maybe two before blowing it up and re-building.

 

[stealth1]

IN this division it isn't easy. The Red Wings have been " re-building " eight years now. I'd rather tinker another year, maybe two before blowing it up and re-building.

Maybe the 8th time will be the charm. I know it will suck to rebuild again but the goal is the cup. Making the playoffs each year and hoping they finally show up is not the answer

 

[SeaOfBlue]

and leave his boy Keefe ?

DOUBT it.

That would be an interesting move.



I think they've already worked out a deal, but didn't want to announce it until it was politically correct (after the playoffs).

I think a new GM will have MAJOR problems making deals with Matthews, Marner and Nylander. letting Dubas go would be potentially triggering a rebuild.

It is not like he brought his boy Keefe in on day 1 either. He gave Babcock a full year and a bit before turning to Keefe... And Keefe would have easily had a job elsewhere if he wasn't a HC here.

Depends how much he wants power and autonomy. We can't offer him that unless Shanny is fired, and given there are a few contradictions between his actions and words, I would not be surprised if he has been undermined more than a few times in his tenure. Maybe he doesn't want that.

We also do not know how much Shanny's words have impacted his ability to do his job. Remember it was Shanny, and not Dubas, who talked about discounts for the stars. Dubas just said he would get them signed no matter what and that they are not in the business of trading good young players.

There does seem to be a rift between the two and the common perception until now was that Shanny likely wouldn't offer Dubas another deal if things went poorly... When it could just as easily be that Dubas won't take any realistic offer that Shanny gives him and he wants to change things up.

 

[Nineteen67]

I don’t think they should bring Bunting back. His antics and diving cost the Leafs and he was a step behind in Rnd 2.

 

[studebaker17]

IN this division it isn't easy. The Red Wings have been " re-building " eight years now. I'd rather tinker another year, maybe two before blowing it up and re-building.

Sounds like a very buffalo ish thing to do

 

[HamiltonNHL]

And Keefe would have easily possibly eventually had a job elsewhere if he wasn't a HC here.

FTFY

 

[shaner8989]

Holl and Kerfoot are the easiest. If either one is back I’ll never be back .
Bunting gone
Gustafson gone
ZAR gone
Kampf resign 1 yr cheap
Schenn resign
O’Reilly resign
Accari resign

 

[TakeTheBody]

Maybe the 8th time will be the charm. I know it will suck to rebuild again but the goal is the cup. Making the playoffs each year and hoping they finally show up is not the answer

I understand that. I don't think were that far away. This years playoffs were weird to me. The Bolts are supposed to have the best goalie in the world. He's not the best goalie in Florida at the moment. Then we play Florida they have Bob probably the worst goalie contract in hockey. All of a sudden he lives up to it??
The word tinker is scary, I get that. But this team has talent other teams will pay for. The term " gud pro " was mocked here for years. We need more gud pros. Not goons. Guys who won't back down. That initiate not retaliate. Knies, woll, maybe Roberston we have young talent. Don't blow it up. Yet.

 

[stealth1]

I understand that. I don't think were that far away. This years playoffs were weird to me. The Bolts are supposed to have the best goalie in the world. He's not the best goalie in Florida at the moment. Then we play Florida they have Bob probably the worst goalie contract in hockey. All of a sudden he lives up to it??
The word tinker is scary, I get that. But this team has talent other teams will pay for. The term " gud pro " was mocked here for years. We need more gud pros. Not goons. Guys who won't back down. That initiate not retaliate. Knies, woll, maybe Roberston we have young talent. Don't blow it up. Yet.

They tried that this year at the deadline. Having "gud pros" in the bottom 6 only takes you so far. You need the top guys doing that as well. They continue to show that they don't have it.

Why not build around Knies Robertson and Woll. IMO this was their last chance and they showed once again they don't have what it takes.

 

[tokyoite]

marner needs to go.
and nylander.

 

[TonsofPuppies]

MLSE cannot wait around. They need to let the axe fall and quickly, so that we can get new management in here to deal with the AM / Marner situation. Too many times over the years, this organization reacts to an issue far too late and it costs us dearly. This would be another example of that.

 

[hullsy47]

Coach Keefe - has a contract for next year
GM Dubas - no contract for next year (5 year contract ended)
President Shanahan - has a contract for next year.

=== No movement clauses kick in July 1, 2023.===
Matthews, Auston "A" $11,640,250
Marner, Mitchell "A" $10,903,000 - 2 UFA years.

=== M-NTC kicks in July 1, 2023.===
Nylander, William $6,962,366

== RFA ==
Samsonov, Ilya 1 RFA $1,800,000


== UFA forwards ==
O'Reilly, Ryan $1,875,000
Kämpf, David $1,500,000
Acciari, Noel $1,250,000
Bunting, Michael $950,000
Aston-Reese, Zach $840,630


== UFA Defence ==
Holl, Justin $2,000,000
Schenn, Luke $850,000
Gustafsson, Erik $800,000


Dates -
The draft June 28-29


== Walk / not come back / Trade ==
Simmonds, Wayne $900,000 (retiring)
Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000 (can't afford to re-sign)

	Issue	Priority / Potential impact	AAV
Matthews	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	11.6
Marner	NMC kicks in July 1	HIGH	10.9
Nylander	M-NTC kicks in July 1	HIGH	6.9
Dubas	alot of work to do, not a time for "No GM"	HIGH
Samsonov	RFA	medium	1.8

Am I missing anything important ?



I'd say the 4 big big priorities are Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Dubas.

With all the work needing to be done, I think Dubas gets extended VERY soon.

i agree with steve simmons .u have to sign mathews long term .but IMO if he wont commit by july 1st .deal him
marner the same these guys owe the leafs that much courtesy
if they want dubas back so be it .i guarantee u larry tannenbaum will make sure dubas has limited atonomy on certain decisions
its hard to say but so,mething smells of running this thing back and just tell the fans how priveledged they are that they are leafs nation

 

[ToneDog]

I don’t think they should bring Bunting back. His antics and diving cost the Leafs and he was a step behind in Rnd 2.

At the right price, I'd bring him back. I like our roster if he is our #3LWer.

 

[MCR74]

Matthews and Marner will be chasing heavy raises once their deals are up. Neither of them is worth top dollar IMO.

If Matthews has no intention of being on the team long term, trade him. If he wants to stay but insists on league max, MLSE would be crazy to keep him. What if his wrist is messed for good? Management shouldn't take the risk.

There's always an excuse when these guys don't show. Their lackadaisical attitudes are difficult to take. This team needs a Matthew Tkachuk or Nathan MacKinnon, a player who puts it all on the line when the time comes.