JVR for Fowler makes some sense. If Toronto would take on some additional cap so the Ducks can sign Lindholm, I think it's about as fair as it gets.
Ducks get a top LW for the next couple seasons to try and go after a Cup. Leafs get a D-man you can play against a team's best players.
Stoner + Fowler + 1st
for
JVR + something
Ducks have no urgency to move him unless its the LW they need. They'll ask for JVR straight up.
i'd do this as long as it's a 3-4th or a b prospect
Title says it; Leafs need a top 4 dman, preferably a top pair.
Not available - Matthews, Marner, Rielly.
Who can we get?
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Also love the ridiculously high price we won't pay for Fowler.
He's not even a RHD...
At that point I'd rather just get hazed and get Trouba. At least he's younger and a RHD, so it makes some sense. Getting hazed for a guy who probably won't fulfill our need properly and when we have a handful of prospects who will take his spot over the next couple of years makes absolutely no sense.
Does not solve their cap problem. it adds to it.
Fowler+Stoner+Tor 2nd for JVR?
Too much money switching hands but I would be okay with something like that. Not sure if Leafs would bite.
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Fowler + Stoner for JVR makes more sense than Fowler for JVR w/retention. We have a log jam of dmen. Maybe Anaheim needs to add a 3rd or 4th to justify the extra salary TOR will take on.
However we can't make the deal until Lindholm's signature dries on a contract.
LOL we'd have way too many defensemen.
then we would get rid of a couple ...... no loss there
Why not just draft one in the 2017 draft cuz it's likely you'll be picking in the top 10 at the very least.
I get it... it's 1 game where Matthews probably had his best performance of the season and you think you are close but you aren't... dude scores 4 and you lose. You got aways to go and since you aren't really willing to give much up.... nobody gonna give you a top 4 for spare parts.
I think Fowler is your guy and I think JVR retained plus Kapanen gets it done. Perhaps even Kapanen plus if you take back a salary dump
Jacob Trouba
(maybe a plus if we negotiate well)
Jake Gardiner
Brendan Leipsic
Connor Carrick
That would be a route I would consider. I haven't been looking too hard, but I'm pretty sure that's among the best offers that wasn't completely ridiculous out there for Trouba.
You are probably wondering why this makes any sense because it's a lateral move in terms of number of top 4 defensemen. Well technically it isn't because Marincin would move from a 2D role with Rielly to a more suitable 4D role with Zaitsev or Trouba. That would solve our problems at top 4 for now. We have plenty of guys who can fill in later on.
The rest of the problems have to do with Andersen...
Then if we wanted to, we can still make a deal with Anaheim revolving around Stoner and Hunwick, but I don't think Fowler makes sense for our team. Stoner could at least form a nice, tough bottom pairing with Polak and give us another good PK option at defense.