Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose in OT 4-3

[yubbers]

And Dubas traded those away like it was going out of style

Remember when Dubas traded a 1st to dump Marleaus last year and then missed the playoffs? LOL

 

[3blizzard4]

If Wednesdays game goes sideways we could see our first jersey toss.

 

[binop7]

That’s what I was afraid a few years back, I think it was the BJ series where their post series/season interviews, it seemed like they are just used to losing in the first round.

It's too familiar now.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

We need someone like Tortorella. This team is way too soft, mentally more than physically. Toughen them up or out the door. Everyone is too complacent. Hopefully something is done because this is beyond embarrassing for everyone.

 

[tp71]

And Dubas traded those away like it was going out of style

When you are trying to win, usually you trade 1st round picks.

 

[Kiwi]

Pathetic

Boys with no pride pretending to be men

Get rid of them all from management on down, I couldn't care less anymore

 

[Gabriel426]

Other than one Montreal-like Cinderella run to the SC Final on the back of Brodeur, he only made it out of the first round twice in the Salary Cap era before leaving for the Islanders, and both of those times were SF losses.

Then he made the CF twice with the Islanders, once again mostly on the back of goaltending.

He definitely knows how to pick goalies, but he didn't really construct true Cup-contending teams under a Cup. They've had more holes in them than the Leafs' rosters.

Let’s stop the Lou Vs Dubas debate.
Let’s say Dubas is better than Lou, what is the records with Dubas’s Leafs in the playoffs?
The point is not to be better than previous GMs, it is to be the GM that construct a Cup winning Team. Dubas has not done that, heck, his team haven’t even win a playoff round.
I could careless if Lou wins the Cup with whatever teams as long as Dubas’s Leafs win the Cup.

 

[binop7]

When you are trying to win, usually you trade 1st round picks.

For perpetually injured players like Foligno?

 

[yubbers]

We need someone like Tortorella. This team is way too soft, mentally more than physically. Toughen them up or out the door. Everyone is too complacent. Hopefully something is done because this is beyond embarrassing for everyone.

Could you imagine AM, WIlly and Marner having to deal with Torts? LOL.

 

[Nineteen67]

No, I think it has more to do with Toronto Sports media being perpetually negative and getting the fanbase to buy it. Negativity sells. That's why they do it. People as a whole general sense just cannot think for themselves.

It's why Kerfoot is so hated right now for no particular reason. It's a bunch of bleating.

Does the media even know Kerfoot exists? Rarely hear his name mentioned. Does TNT, ESPN and the NHL Network also try to sell negativity? I think it’s mostly fair analysis when Dubas’ work is critiqued. To date he’s been a failure.

 

[theTTC]

All Lou did was cost us a 1st round pick.

You focus on minutiae, I'll use the big picture as the arbiter of what constitutes a winner.

 

[1specter]

Mitch Marner can go f*** himself along with his toxic father and posse around him and the culture he has brought to this team. William Nylander has been ragged on for years and years by fans and media, has had to endure tons of disgusting and xenophobic comments and is constantly the whipping boy yet he never complains and just comes out and plays. Nylander has played through adversity better than any of the other core guys have, and even tonight despite being the team's best player so far he had to be the one demoted to his unnatural position to 'balance' the lineup and delivered two assists in the process.. He played far less than the other core guys did but do you see him throwing a tantrum? No. Marner gets benched for a shift and his whole world comes crashing down. f*** this kid

 

[dirtydanglez]

this was foreseeable.

 

[tp71]

Just that fact kinda blows up your narrative

If winning 6 rounds is irrelevant....wtf is not winning 1? LOL

Ah yes. The narrative that Lou is this god like figure of nothing but winning. All that winning he's done since 2003. So much winning Donald Trump would blush.

My point is, we need to stop painting Lou like he was some sort of saviour. He did nothing of note in Toronto. He has done nothing of note in New York and he largely did nothing of note in New Jersey since the lockout of 2005.

 

[killer1980]

Dubas motgage the heart and soul of our team to prove he was right. Guess what????

 

[rdogg]

It's actually kind of funny at this point.

I won't have to suffer a 1st round game 7 exit this year

 

[binop7]

Also hell no to giving Bunting 8 years.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Keefe played Nylander 15 seconds more than Engvall tonight. Theres a lot of things within his control he's screwing up.

I don't understand that at all.

After the first period it was very clear that the Nylander line was our best. So Keefe gives them less ice time in the second, and virtually benches both Robertson and Malgin in the third, to stick Willy back with JT.

It's almost as though he was trying to lose. Either that, or he got orders from above.

I thought JT had one of his best games at ES this year, despite getting trapped in our end a few times.

They really have to separate those two.

 

[Gabriel426]

I said it on another thread a few days ago, when do MGT knows and understands the players they are betting on just ain’t the right players.

 

[binop7]

It's actually kind of funny at this point.

I won't have to suffer a 1st round game 7 exit this year

Truthfully missing the playoffs and getting a high draft pick would be the best thing for this group. If we make it in and lose in round 2 everything will remain status quo.

 

[tp71]

For perpetually injured players like Foligno?

I remember a lot of people excited by that trade. It didn't work out. That happens.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Could you imagine AM, WIlly and Marner having to deal with Torts? LOL.

At least that would be entertaining lol.. games this year haven’t been.

 

[ChadBigly]

backtracked on his public comments. That’s when he lost the room.

If he had to backtrack then he had already lost the room. Not that the timeline of these things is all that important. It's pretty clear they don't respect him.

 

[Nineteen67]

Ah yes. The narrative that Lou is this god like figure of nothing but winning. All that winning he's done since 2003. So much winning Donald Trump would blush.

My point is, we need to stop painting Lou like he was some sort of saviour. He did nothing of note in Toronto. He has done nothing of note in New York and he largely did nothing of note in New Jersey since the lockout of 2005.

2 semi-finals is of note.
Looks like he may finish ahead of Dubas again this year.

 

[LeafSteel]

Is anyone enjoying this more than Mike Babcock right now?

Trying to keep it above the line, but it just feels so damn bleak right now, in a way I don't remember feeling since the dark days after Sundin left.

It feels like everyone is just waiting for something to happen, but I can't think of one simple thing happening that will right this.

It looks like each and every player is struggling with their confidence in themselves and each other, and have forgotten how to play basic, simple hockey. It's really mind-boggling to see, to be honest.

It's pretty hard to watch this right now, as it really doesn't feel like there is an easy solution.