Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 7-3

[notDatsyuk]

Which means he would now have that evidence, as it was passed along to him. And he could pass it on to others requesting it.
And yet he repeatedly refused to provide it, or even explain what he's referring to, and now seems to be acknowledging that there was never any evidence in the first place.

Ok. One last attempt.

The evidence has been posted, so I see no reason to post it again.

Either you haven't looked at it, in which case why are you arguing about it, or you have seen it and just refuse to accept what virtually everyone else agrees on.

Either way, I'm done.

 

[CelticDruid]

his last comment about "starting early, skating and engaging physically"

that was interesting

And you compare that interview to Tavares whinging about TB pp calls.

 

[PromisedLand]

And you compare that interview to Tavares whinging about TB pp calls.

I found it interesting that ROR was asked about Tavares' quote he just said yea yea (he had to obviously he can't say no); then just went on to say how they have to get up and play and play better.

#Accountability
#OwningOwnStupidPlay
#Leadsership
#LeadingFromFront

Tavares is a fraud. If he had any integrity he would own his putrid 5 on 5 play for the entire season and gm 1

 

[notDatsyuk]

Which means he would now have that evidence, as it was passed along to him. And he could pass it on to others requesting it.
And yet he repeatedly refused to provide it, or even explain what he's referring to, and now seems to be acknowledging that there was never any evidence in the first place.

Ok. One last attempt.

The evidence has been posted, so I see no reason to post it again.

Either you haven't looked at it, in which case why are you arguing about it, or you have seen it and just refuse to accept what virtually everyone else agrees on.

Either way, I'm done

 

[CelticDruid]

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And you compare that interview to Tavares whinging about TB pp calls.
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Sorry, for being negative I just want our so-called leaders to put up and shut up.

 

[notDatsyuk]

That’s what I was saying… it’s impossible for the puck to be completely over the line, if it’s leaning up against the post

It wasn't "leaning up against the post".

 

[PromisedLand]

Holl can eat popcorn next game.

I got news for ya. Did you see the practice lines/pairs in the pre-game thread and Keefe's quote?

 

[PromisedLand]

True.

But there's no f***ing way the Leafs will let them, after last night's game and with me in the building for my first ever live playoff game.

how much did you pay? I was gonna shellout big bucks but then I saw what Keefe had and decided not to pay. Here is hoping for your sake if you shell out hundreds/thousand(s) of dollars that they don't suck

 

[ULF_55]

This is not the right way to analyze information IMO. Just because other's lost leafs losing shouldn't be deemed as ok because others lost.

This is Leafs' 6th yr in the playoffs and without even one series win. Others on that list:

Devils - after rebuild first time in the playoffs
Avs - just won the cup
VGK - have made deep runs in the playoffs

I really don't think pointing to others' failures is alright to justify Leafs' failure. This is not progress. Progress is moving forward not saying "look others suck so I suck too and its ok" is not the right mindset IMO

Where did you read any opinion saying it was okay?

Any I made no mention of historical reference.

I didn't even watch, I have little faith this team has any leadership. Maybe O'Rielly can overcome the entitled double digits?

 

[authentic]

Ok. One last attempt.

The evidence has been posted, so I see no reason to post it again.

Either you haven't looked at it, in which case why are you arguing about it, or you have seen it and just refuse to accept what virtually everyone else agrees on.

Either way, I'm done

There actually was no conclusive evidence the puck was over the line, the fact that part of it was still jammed up against the inside of the post actually tells you it wasn't

 

[PromisedLand]

If I was Dubas I'd be bringing back Babcock this afternoon.

And if I was Babcock I would be demanding a report from Mitch Marner by 6PM outlining which players on the team are working hard and which aren't.

AND THEN ACT ON IT

Seconded!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ACC1224]

There actually was no conclusive evidence the puck was over the line, the fact that part of it was still jammed up against the inside of the post actually tells you it wasn't

They said it was conclusive that’s why they called it a goal.

 

[seventieslord]

how much did you pay? I was gonna shellout big bucks but then I saw what Keefe had and decided not to pay. Here is hoping for your sake if you shell out hundreds/thousand(s) of dollars that they don't suck

Surprisingly, $280.

I was shocked they were available at all, let alone for that price.

I've had a trip to Toronto planned for 2 months but my expectation this whole time was that it was going to be during games three and four... Not games two and three as it turned out.

 

[PromisedLand]

Ref said puck was completely over the line. Must be lying.

here is hoping nobody is debating this anymore. it was a good goal. People should be mad at Holl for this for once again standing around like a moron

 

[seventieslord]

how much did you pay? I was gonna shellout big bucks but then I saw what Keefe had and decided not to pay. Here is hoping for your sake if you shell out hundreds/thousand(s) of dollars that they don't suck

The thing about the Leafs is, when they have to win they win, and when they don't really have to that badly, the other team is more desperate and beats them. It's been happening for years. If they won game one I would be going to game two 100% expecting a loss, so I guess.... It's nice that they lost game 1 for me???

 

[authentic]

They said it was conclusive that’s why they called it a goal.

Yes that is what they said. They also called these "crosschecks" and "slashes"

 

[PromisedLand]

Surprisingly, $280.

I was shocked they were available at all, let alone for that price.

I've had a trip to Toronto planned for 2 months but my expectation this whole time was that it was going to be during games three and four... Not games two and three as it turned out.

280 for a playoff game is dirtcheap. You are lucky man.

 

[ACC1224]

Yes that is what they said. They also called these "crosschecks" and "slashes"

The refs called the penalties and the office reviewed the goal. You realize these are different things?

 

[authentic]

here is hoping nobody is debating this anymore. it was a good goal. People should be mad at Holl for this for once again standing around like a moron

That's not conclusive, there's snow covering up where the red line would be. All you have to do is follow where the line would be right up to the post and you could see that a small part of the puck would still be touching.

The refs called the penalties and the office reviewed the goal. You realize these are different things?

And they got the calls wrong

 

[ACC1224]

That's not conclusive, there's snow covering up where the red line would be. All you have to do is follow where the line would be right up to the post and you could see that a small part of the puck would still be touching.



And they got the calls wrong

You’re really bad at this, make very little sense.
Perhaps that’s your goal.

 

[authentic]

The thing about the Leafs is, when they have to win they win, and when they don't really have to that badly, the other team is more desperate and beats them. It's been happening for years. If they won game one I would be going to game two 100% expecting a loss, so I guess.... It's nice that they lost game 1 for me???

They have to win when they have to win, except when it's time to eliminate the other team

You’re really bad at this, make very little sense.
Perhaps that’s your goal.

That's perfect that you think that

 

[PromisedLand]

That's not conclusive, there's snow covering up where the red line would be. All you have to do is follow where the line would be right up to the post and you could see that a small part of the puck would still be touching.

puck is clearly behind the line. on the HNIC they showed the entire feed that cuts off in the tweet I posted. It was a good goal. Friedman talked about it for good 5 to 10 minutes too

 

[seventieslord]

They have to win when they have to win, except when it's time to eliminate the other team



That's perfect that you think that

yes, except for those times. When both are desperate, their desperation supercedes ours.

 

[authentic]

puck is clearly behind the line. on the HNIC they showed the entire feed that cuts off in the tweet I posted. It was a good goal. Friedman talked about it for good 5 to 10 minutes too

I'll take your word for it. I don't mean that sarcastically either.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Ok. One last attempt.
The evidence has been posted, so I see no reason to post it again.
Either you haven't looked at it, in which case why are you arguing about it, or you have seen it and just refuse to accept what virtually everyone else agrees on.

Ok. One last attempt...
The evidence has not been posted. I've nicely asked you to post it multiple times, which should be an incredibly easy thing to do if it exists, and you've repeatedly refused.
The only evidence that has been posted in this thread is showing what virtually everyone else agrees on - the puck was not over the line.
If you have evidence that counters what the video/pictures clearly show and what everybody believes, like you claimed when you initiated this back and forth, then let's see it. I'd love to see it. But you refuse to provide it, because it doesn't exist.