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Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 7-3

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Jamason said:
It wasn't "leaning up against the post".
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From what I saw in the video that supposedly shows the puck completely crossing the line, it is on end and up against the post. Wedged in between Sammy’s skate and the post.

The real interesting thing that has me confused, is that I can’t see the goal line where the puck is. It’s not visible…. at all. Like I said in a previous post, I believe there is snow completely covering the goal line where the puck is.

If you draw a line from where the goal line is visible, to where the post is on the puck side, it doesn’t look to me like the puck is completely over that line.

Honestly, it’s really not important any more, but at the time, it seemed ridiculous to have determined it to be a good goal. Such is life.
 
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Peace Frog said:
From what I saw in the video that supposedly shows the puck completely crossing the line, it is on end and up against the post. Wedged in between Sammy’s skate and the post.

The real interesting thing that has me confused, is that I can’t see the goal line where the puck is. It’s not visible…. at all. Like I said in a previous post, I believe there is snow completely covering the goal line where the puck is.

If you draw a line from where the goal line is visible, to where the post is on the puck side, it doesn’t look to me like the puck is completely over that line.

Honestly, it’s really not important any more, but at the time, it seemed ridiculous to have determined it to be a good goal. Such is life.
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League office obviously had a view where they could conclusively see the puck over the line.
Since it was a goal on the ice, even if inconclusive it still would have counted.
 
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Holy f***.. this is going to be holl wasnt interference schtick for this year?

Jesus christ.. common sense says puck is in mid spin for a brief second - old wives tale wisdom says it means f*** all based on how they played they didnt deserve to win

Unreal..
 
Dekes For Days said:
Ok. One last attempt...
The evidence has not been posted. I've nicely asked you to post it multiple times, which should be an incredibly easy thing to do if it exists, and you've repeatedly refused.
The only evidence that has been posted in this thread is showing what virtually everyone else agrees on - the puck was not over the line.
If you have evidence that counters what the video/pictures clearly show and what everybody believes, like you claimed when you initiated this back and forth, then let's see it. I'd love to see it. But you refuse to provide it, because it doesn't exist.
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It's been provided, you just refuse to admit it.

And your repeated "no, you said" comments are just so mature. :laugh:
 
Kelly said:
Didn't we stomp them 5-0 g1 last year? Don't think it has anything to do with that.

Entire team came out flat
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It’s not just this game though is it ? It’s also losing the nine series close out games in a row prior to this year. Good teams find a way to win some of those games. Tavares and Reilly have played 22 years in the league and have one playoff series win between them. That’s not a coincidence.
 
ACC1224 said:
League office obviously had a view where they could conclusively see the puck over the line.
Since it was a goal on the ice, even if inconclusive it still would have counted.
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I can only comment on the video that was provided that is supposed to be conclusive that the puck was completely over the line.

As far as it still counting if the video was deemed inconclusive, I agree. So based on the video that was shown to us, it would have been deemed inconclusive and the goal would be considered a good goal.

All I’m saying is that I don’t think the puck ever fully crossed the goal line, based on the replays provided. Apparently, the referee saw it differently in live action AND after video review.
 
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Jamason said:
It's been provided
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It hasn't though. The only thing provided is evidence showing the exact opposite.
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Clearly was not over the line. They messed up. It's okay to admit it.
 
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Jamason said:
Just like you with posts - show what supports your point of view, and ignore what doesn't. :laugh:
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I mean he's not wrong. People say they showed the proof but it cant be replicated? Show it whats the issue? I haven't seen it yet.

Nowhere in those Omar tweets is the puck across the line at any point.
 
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Jamason said:
Just like you with posts - show what supports your point of view, and ignore what doesn't.
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What do you mean show what supports my point of view? It's just a line across the goal line, which seems pretty important when determining if something crossed the goal line.
What am I ignoring? I've repeatedly asked you to provide evidence that shows otherwise, and you've refused. You just keep making these vague deflections to personal attacks.
 
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One random and last night.. the red line doesnt cover the whole post..

Thoughts
 

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Peace Frog said:
I can only comment on the video that was provided that is supposed to be conclusive that the puck was completely over the line.

As far as it still counting if the video was deemed inconclusive, I agree. So based on the video that was shown to us, it would have been deemed inconclusive and the goal would be considered a good goal.

All I’m saying is that I don’t think the puck ever fully crossed the goal line, based on the replays provided. Apparently, the referee saw it differently in live action AND after video review.
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Yes they said it was conclusive.
 
From those practice lines i'm seeing some nice changes(forwards anyways). Not sure if any changes on d were made though. Looks the same. I will pray for Kerfoot to have a big game tomorrow because i actually like the guy(his speed and playmaking, work ethic) but man he's so frustrating with the fact he can't score...So let's hope it's different this time around...Oh and hopefully Knies gets in because no way he can do worse than Bunting as long as he just tries hard(skating, work along the wall, etc).
 
TMLife17 said:
I mean he's not wrong. People say they showed the proof but it cant be replicated? Show it whats the issue? I haven't seen it yet.

Nowhere in those Omar tweets is the puck across the line at any point.
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Is the league obligated to show you the proof?

If they saw it conclusively it must exist.
 
Dekes For Days said:
It hasn't though. The only thing provided is evidence showing the exact opposite.
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Clearly was not over the line. They messed up. It's okay to admit it.
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Agreed 100%. The "proof" is only proof to those who don't understand object permanence. Just because you can't see the goal line, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The puck cannot be over a line that starts behind where it is, very basic stuff.
 
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Ports said:
It’s not just this game though is it ? It’s also losing the nine series close out games in a row prior to this year. Good teams find a way to win some of those games. Tavares and Reilly have played 22 years in the league and have one playoff series win between them. That’s not a coincidence.
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Rielly played well enough to win last year. He was the best defenseman in the series. Tavares literally single handedly won that series against Florida too.
 
hockeyes said:
Whatever you are smoking, I want some. The only thing the league does consistently is being inconsistent. They make it up as they go and tell everyone to shove it regardless of reality.
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You’re saying they lied? Why would they do that?
 
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