Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 7-3

[Nineteen67]

What in the world was Rielly doing, holy he was bad tonight.

He’s just not been very good this year.

 

[GQS]

I fully expect Samsonov starts game 2.
I don’t think Keefe has the balls to start Woll.

I wouldn't disagree with giving Samsonov another start because it would be putting alot of responsibility on Woll to play really well and help get the Leafs a win. However if Samsonov has another really bad game then Keefe may have to roll the dice and give Woll a shot.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Nylander? Hes been the best of the core, Matthews hasnt even reached his peak yet! The team ain't going anywhere with the Taveras contract, that's where the issue is, another 2 more seasons of crippling the teams cap. It will be a revolving door of 3rd and 4th line affordable players, which ain't going to cut it. When the Taveras money opens up then the Leafs will have the opportunity to secure two bona-fide players, that's when I think they will have a serious shot at the cup. Hang in there, 3 more years.

nope. The team will get a tear down this off season. About fuggin time.

 

[Skullz]

Tampa scored 3 even strength goals.
Nylander was on the ice for 2 of them.

He was better than he's been most of the season, but he wasn't exactly"on" tonight.

1 power play goal, 4 total shots, 0 hits, 0 blocked shots in 16 minutes doesn't exactly scream good playoff game to me in terms of effort.

We have people like Cleetus saying that Matthews and Marner have to be better:

Matthews with 2 assists, 0 goals against, 5 hits, 1 blocked shot, 3 takeaways, 18 minutes played and:



Marner with 3 assists, 0 even strength goals against, 3 shots, 2 hits, 1 blocked shot in 22 minutes with 4:33 penalty kill.


I mean, can those players be better?
Yes.

Did they play poorly?

Not in the slightest.

I didn't anything about Marner or Matthews. I thought that they were fine. Didn't love Willy to much either, thought he needed more effort as you spelled out.

Regardless, I don't agree with taking him off PP1.

 

[LaPlante94]

Marner looked scared at 1st. Looked a little better as the game went on. Matthews looked pretty good, 2nd line looked good as well but might have to have O'Rielly to C the 3rd line unless we're down a goal or 2 and then put him with Tavares and Nylander. Kerfoot and the 3rd line didn't really do much. Put Jarnkrok where he belongs on Matthews wing and then run Kerfoot-O'Rielly-Acciari.

Defence just doesn't know how to handle a forecheck. Holl on that 1st goal pissed me off. Had a bad feeling about the game after seeing how that was played. ZAR had a bad turnover but that was brutal.

Jarnkrok-Matthews-Marner
Knies-Tavares-Nylander
Kerfoot-O'Rielly-Acciari
ZAR-Kampf-Lafferty

McCabe-Brodie
Rielly-Liljegren
Gio-Holl

Tbh after that game I'd sit Holl or Gio but no way Keefe does that so I'll assume this is what we go with.

 

[Pebble live]

Jarnkrok. Matthews. Marner
Knies. ROR. Nylander
Kerfoot. Tavares. Lafferty
ZAR. Kampf. Acciari.

Agreed except ZAR.

After the ZAR give away on his first f***ing shift that turned into a goal.... He needs to sit.

Take him out and put Simmonds in. I don't anticipate getting much from Simmonds but role players making stupid plays like that on their first shift need to be sat. At least we'll get a good hit or two from Simmonds.

 

[fahad203]

I wouldn't disagree with giving Samsonov another start because it would be putting alot of responsibility on Woll to play really well and help get the Leafs a win. However if Samsonov has another really bad game then Keefe may have to roll the dice and give Woll a shot.

No you go with Murray...... Oh wait

 

[Stephen]

Wait all year for a meaningful game and thats the bullshit we get.

Though, If thats the worst shit kicking we get, im glad its now and not in the inevitable game 7 loss.

You can never trust the psychology of this team eh. It’s like after a bitter playoff loss they come out of the season like they just had minor dental surgery. Game 1 of Redemption Tour 4 or whatever it is and they just play like it’s the Sabres in November.

 

[PromisedLand]

all those burnt tapes have definitely increased Canadas Carbon Footprint! lmao!

The carbon taxes have no impact on them. Leafs are making our groceries even more expensive burning those tapes

 

[notbias]

If Schenn is not going to step up and hit anyone, he can sit for Liljegren.

Knies in for Bunting since he will be suspended.

ZAR can sit for Simmonds if he is going to be that useless, at least Simmonds will try to get some energy going.

Samsanov needs to look calm to start next game or I'd switch goalies quick.

Run 3 good lines and a real 4th line.

Jarnkrok - Matthews - Marner
Knies - ROR - Nylander
Kerfoot - Tavares - Lafferty
Simmonds - Kampf - Acciari

McCabe - Brodie
Rielly - Liljegren
Gio - Holl

Samsanov
Woll

 

[sxvnert]

Jarnkrok Matthews Nylander
Tavares O'Reilly Marner
Knies Acciari Lafferty
Kerfoot Kampf ZAR

Same D pairings.

 

[57 Years No Cup]

I actually can't complain about our anthem singer though. Now that's one thing we can be proud of

I'll bet she gets big respect in the handshake line.

 

[Stephen]

Agreed except ZAR.

After the ZAR give away on his first f***ing shift that turned into a goal.... He needs to sit.

Take him out and put Simmonds in. I don't anticipate getting much from Simmonds but role players making stupid plays like that on their first shift need to be sat. At least we'll get a good hit or two from Simmonds.

ZAR should be made an example of. But I’m sure no one cares and he was going to come out for Knies anyway.

 

[fahad203]

Agreed except ZAR.

After the ZAR give away on his first f***ing shift that turned into a goal.... He needs to sit.

Take him out and put Simmonds in. I don't anticipate getting much from Simmonds but role players making stupid plays like that on their first shift need to be sat. At least we'll get a good hit or two from Simmonds.

Just call up Clifford. That was a very marginal 5 min penalty he got last year
At least he can skate and hit

 

[pcruz]

Holl is just a classic goofball in the Aki Berg, Cory Cross tradition. Big guy who is alright but prone to a lapse here and there and doesn’t have the instinct in him to use his frame to full advantage. Mileage varies.

Marner and Kerfoot were awarded 2 hits tonight.

They're the size of Leo Messi.

Holl is a big guy and landed a whopping 3 hits.

It's pathetic how averse he is to physical play given his size.
If we're going to have a soft right handed defenseman who doesn't engage physically, why not have Liljigren who offers better puck control and more offensive stability?

 

[PromisedLand]

Got spanked, learn your lesson and move on. onto the next games

you can learn a lesson may be once, or twice or at max three times. after that its not a lesson, its moronic to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results

 

[IPS]

first period marner floating around like f***ing peter pan's fairy giving up the puck on the slightest touch and lobbing it to the other team so they can come back and score it when marner was on the ice for like three minutes


f*** these random ass assists.

I forget who brings up the term all the time but "empty calorie points" exactly describes Marner tonight.

 

[Stephen]

first period marner floating around like f***ing peter pan's fairy giving up the puck on the slightest touch and lobbing it to the other team so they can come back and score it when marner was on the ice for like three minutes


f*** these random ass assists.

I wish Marner had gotten his cookies in New York but tonight was definitely meaningless.

 

[fahad203]

Marner and Kerfoot were awarded 2 hits tonight.

They're the size of Leo Messi.

Holl is a big guy and landed a whopping 3 hits.

It's pathetic how averse he is to physical play given his size.
If we're going to have a soft right handed defenseman who doesn't engage physically, why not have Liljigren who offers better puck control and more offensive stability?

Who's going to hit?
Nylander will not throw a hit, neither will Matthews
Bunting will try, then do something stupid

That 2nd line is the slowest line in the league, by the time they get to hit, the play is other way around

 

[BTP]

We played like absolute pig shit. Deserved to lose.

They won’t play that badly again. Tampa didn’t even look good, we were f***ing embarrassingly bad.

Just show up for f***ing once and play properly you win this series.

If we lose this series I’ll take next year off.

 

[Budz]

For me:

The game was lost before we played.
Why play ROR with JT and Willy. It’s a waste. It makes match ups easier for Coop.

34
91
90
Down the middle.

I’ve said all year but no one believes me. Rielly has the worst contract in the team. I hope he sits next game.

Marner is not suited for playoffs. 3 points, but garbage 5v5. Soft plays and give always galore.

Our coach is stupid. No adjustments, left Sammy in.

Need better goal tending. Not blaming Sammy alone, but bad rebounds etc.

I don’t blame the refs for the loss, but they were total dog shit. Can anyone please explain how McCaulley saw the goal in? Or was it just Perry raising his hands???

The league is a joke.

 

[Stephen]

Marner and Kerfoot were awarded 2 hits tonight.

They're the size of Leo Messi.

Holl is a big guy and landed a whopping 3 hits.

It's pathetic how averse he is to physical play given his size.
If we're going to have a soft right handed defenseman who doesn't engage physically, why not have Liljigren who offers better puck control and more offensive stability?

He often struggles to pin a guy on the end wall. Just use your weight and commit to the task.

 

[Moonman]

Matthews has no heart.

 

[pcruz]

I didn't anything about Marner or Matthews. I thought that they were fine. Didn't love Willy to much either, thought he needed more effort as you spelled out.

Regardless, I don't agree with taking him off PP1.

Willie has always responded well to being challenged.
It's been this way for 8 years now, and he has always responded well when someone is questioning him.

I think that RoR is a more effective player on the power play, personally, and seeing as Willy is a much more selfish player (not a bad thing per se) than Marner, he works less well than Mitch on a power play with Matthews and Tavares who should be the primary scoring threats.

 

[saffronleaf]

you can learn a lesson may be once, or twice or at max three times. after that its not a lesson, its moronic to keep doing the same thing and expecting different results

seven series, forty six games. still learning supposedly.

maybe they are too dumb to learn or too heartless to execute