Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 5-4 in OT

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This game was a reality check that proves this team is not ready for a playoff run. That was an epic collapse tonight. Very bad.
 

Keefe is pretty negative after losses, so the fact he isn't upset shows it's not a big deal. Being tired is the main reason we lost. It happens.
I am happy with the point.


Well Sheldon you only played your 3rd pairing 11 minutes each tonight and gave Holl 25 minutes and Muzzin 24. Playing with 4 defensemen isn't a good way to keep guys fresh.
 
This game was a reality check that proves this team is not ready for a playoff run. That was an epic collapse tonight. Very bad.
Incorrect. Thia game was a reality check that they were tired and gutted out a point. It proves they are ready for a playoff run. Very impressive.

Pens blowing a 3rd period lead today shows they aren't ready for the playoffs.
 
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Incorrect. Thia game was a reality check that they were tired and gutted out a point. It proves they are ready for a playoff run. Very impressive.

Pens blowing a 3rd period lead today shows they aren't ready for the playoffs.
don't give damn a about the loss but what's with the tired excuse ?

shocking as it may be , sometimes the Leafs just get outplayed and there's no need for some lame excuse after every loss
 
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Makar > Reilly
Johnson > Brodie
Toews > Muzzin
Girard > Sandin
Bowen > Dermott / Liljegren
Murray - Holl

We can be honest here dude. The Avalanche defense is better across the board, and they're still very young and improving.

we have the 2nd best d in the league? People are reading too much into this game. We missed 2 key players and 1 dependable penalty killer.
 
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This game was a reality check that proves this team is not ready for a playoff run. That was an epic collapse tonight. Very bad.
lol, this is such an overreaction i dont even know where to start. good teams come back against other good teams all the time. we beat them 8 - 2 last game, does that mean they arent ready for a playoff run either? people need a bit more perspective. since our 2 - 4 - 1 start we have the best winning % in the NHL.

and, IF we dont succeed in the playoffs this year, i can guarantee you this loss will have nothing to do with it.
 
Leafs were dominated by a much, much, MUCH superior team in every facet. This is the difference between a first round failure and a Stanley Cup contender, Avs are a contender, the Leafs are not.

Pure embarrassment from top to bottom. Pathetic effort. Outshot over 20 to 5 in the third, gave up over 50 shots. Avs are superior to Toronto.
Score effects, ie the Leafs playing more conservatively while up vs the Avs' taking risks to get a goal, had a huge part of how the game played out. Mix in the PP/PK disparity and you have a game that could have gone either way. Check the expected goals for and against in 5v5 play and, depending on the service you're looking at, the game was essentially tied ~2.15 expected goals a piece. Moneypuck even goes so far as to give Toronto the advantage in 5v5 play after adjusting for the venue, score, and flurry/spike in low quality, high quantity shots.

Honestly, I think the Leafs were cheated by the zebras tonight. Aside from the Ritchie stupidity, the calls that were made were of events that weren't too dissimilar from the flow of a regular NHL game.... but of course they favoured one team 3-1. The 4 minutes given to Brodie pushed his total up to 12 PIMs in 33 games, just nasty, undisciplined rat-like behaviour tonight apparently.

These sorts of games highlight just how important Marner's versatility is. Kampf played nearly 6 minutes of PK in his 17:39 of ice time tonight (4th highest of the season btw)... he's great defensively but a black hole on the other side of the ice and certainly not the guy you're relying on to maintain pressure. Kerfoot, the other PK forward, played 21:17, the most this year. Not a pure embarrassment at all.
 

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Lets see...a team playing their third game in a like two weeks and missing three starters, runs out of gas playing a great skating team in their home arena during their record setting hot streak. It is not as if they were playing at extreme altitude where the home team regularily trains and plays all their home games at this high altitude. It would be considered a mitigating factor for any other team but...you know...leaf fans.
 
Lets see...a team playing their third game in a like two weeks and missing three starters, runs out of gas playing a great skating team in their home arena during their record setting hot streak. It is not as if they were playing at extreme altitude where the home team regularily trains and plays all their home games at this high altitude. It would be considered a mitigating factor for any other team but...you know...leaf fans.
Be glad you haven't checked Leaf Twitter... There, the person to blame for this loss is... Mitch Marner.
 
This game was a reality check that proves this team is not ready for a playoff run. That was an epic collapse tonight. Very bad.
Leafs are the 3rd best team in the League, playing against the 4th best team. It's hard to hold a 3 goal in the 1st period for the rest of the game. Hardly a choke. COL is really good and have explosive offense. Game honestly could have gone either way.
 
Avs crowd was pretty awesome, that's definitely an area where the AVS have an edge over us. This type of game is where Marner was also missed, I think he would have excelled in this type of fast, open contest. Guys like Clifford and Ritchie are a bit too slow for this, even though Ritchie got one.

Avs are pretty fearsome on the attack - very fast and skilled, but their clear weakness is that they are a bit soft/sloppy in the defensive end. A team that can forecheck hard and pin their dmen, maybe cycle a little can definitely give them a hard time. AVS are the favourites to win the cup right now but I think a team like Vegas, if healthy, would have an edge over them in the West.
 
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The issue is that Colorado can expect to play like that most nights because they're deep and don't rely on any one guy too much. Anytime your built in a manner that requires your goalie to stand on his head regularly for you to be elite, you're asking for trouble in the playoffs. Very few guys are special enough to give you Brodeur / Hasek / Prime Price quality goaltending, night after night. When you're relier on your goalie to be the roster equalizer every night, it often doesn't go well.

If Toronto had been able to manage their cap as well Colorado has to this point, they'd still have Campbell, but they'd have 1-2 major upgrades on the defense core (Holl and Dermott out) and marginal upgrades in their forward depth as well, requiring less spectacular play out of Campbell on the regular.
But Toronto doesn't require Campbell to carry them on the regular. They're top 10 in the league for goals per game and have a high flying offense combined with a decent defensive core. We just have the advantage of an elite goalie in the back who can carry us when our play slips a little like it did tonight. There's nothing wrong with that, Tampa has the same insurance policy with Vasi (obviously he's better)
 
This game was a reality check that proves this team is not ready for a playoff run. That was an epic collapse tonight. Very bad.

we were missing 3 regulars, it literally doesn’t prove anything.
 
Yeah Nylander sent flying and Matthews pitchforked in the offensive end. If that's a penalty for Tavares on Kadri then Matthews draws at least one considering how many times he was mauled tonight. I don't ask for the refs to win us games but call things evenly ffs.

Great mobile core but this will be the Avs downfall again. They're even softer at the back than they were last season, should've found a way to hang onto a guy like Zadorov who kept teams honest. We played them off the ice a few weeks back with a proper roster. Even the first half of this game Matthews' line had Colorado in a pretzel in their own end.

The two teams have a lot of similarities.
Zadorov wasn't a great deterrent for opponents. He could check players into orbit, but I don't recall ever seeing him win a fight. McDermid is a guy NOBODY wants to fight. The Avs are definitely not nearly as soft as they were last season.

Also, the Avs didn't have a single actual NHL goalie active when the Leafs faced them last time. Not sure why everybody forgets that.
 
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Be glad you haven't checked Leaf Twitter... There, the person to blame for this loss is... Mitch Marner.
It was marners fault…..because if you look at it from an unbiased opinion, the earth is not flat, so it’s a sphere, and hockey can be played on that sphere using a SPHERE ball on pavement compared to ice. Marner likes to play hockey and is good at it. Marner doesn’t play as often with a sphere ball compared to a puck, therefore one can say he isn’t as good. If he isn’t good, then he has to be bad. If Marner is bad at playing then Marner has to be bad. If marners bad, then I’ve figured out my reason for why we lost: it’s cuz marners bad (at road hockey)


I think I will now submit this for my P.HD which will give the reader 4 aneurysms in a row
 
Chased their goalie out, earned a point against a white-hot team. Sure we all wanted them to hold on to the lead, but really, we score in OT and everyone's analysis is different. Colorado is a very good team. We were impressive for parts of the game too and Colorado fans were shitting all over their team while it was happening. A seven game series between these two would be very entertaining.
 
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Didn't expect a point tonight with the Leafs lackluster play lately and without Marner and Liljegren aka wit Holl, so: good game I guess.
 
Just watched the game, that was absolutely embarrassing, outclassed everywhere except in net, gross.
Missing 3 players , altitude and playing against a Stanley Cup Contender I think we showed we could hang with them .
As you would say we absolutely outclassed them for a period and a half.
We ran out of gas.
If that is being absolutely outclassed I will take it.
 
This game was a reality check that proves this team is not ready for a playoff run. That was an epic collapse tonight. Very bad.
Oh please, do we forget the thumping they received earlier this season? Colorado has a great team but they have weaknesses. Especially in net. And their style of play doesn't bode well come playoff time. I have them as #2 behind Tampa but I'd love to see the Avs crash and burn given they have the most obnoxious fanbase on this site.
 
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