Post-Game Talk: Leafs Lose 5-2

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What sticks out to me is the Pastranak puck flip past Morgan Riley……..what’s wrong with taking the man. We have the softest defense core in the league…..I’d like to know how many hits they had last night.
What I saw yesterday is the same thing I saw when Leafs lost to Columbus in the play-in round 4 years ago.

If you play a big heavy game and with an aggressive forecheck putting pressure on the Leafs defense and breakout abilities, that you will force endless mistakes and turnovers.

Boston saw the youth and inexperience in Liljegren and Sandin and exposed them badly in this game to their team winning advantage.,

This was a statement game because of potential playoff matchups and the results and the play gave the Bruins all sorts of playoff ammunition to use against the Leafs come playoff time like better goaltending, more physicality and Leafs defense can't hold up to pressure, and Bruins depth > Leafs depth.

Leafs leave this game with more questions then answers and Leafs gave up 5 goals to Bruins depth and their "Perfection line" wasn't even required in the win.
 
What I saw yesterday is the same thing I saw when Leafs lost to Columbus in the play-in round 4 years ago.

If you play a big heavy game and with an aggressive forecheck putting pressure on the Leafs defense and breakout abilities, that you will force endless mistakes and turnovers.

Boston saw the youth and inexperience in Liljegren and Sandin and exposed them badly in this game to their team winning advantage.,

This was a statement game because of potential playoff matchups and the results and the play gave the Bruins all sorts of playoff ammunition to use against the Leafs come playoff time like better goaltending, more physicality and Leafs defense can't hold up to pressure, and Bruins depth > Leafs depth.

Leafs leave this game with more questions then answers and Leafs gave up 5 goals to Bruins depth and their "Perfection line" wasn't even required in the win.
This is exactly why I didn't get my hopes or expectations up this year because da core guys have same issues they always have had .. although I do think if Murray is healthy and in game shape we won't lose due to Freddy or Soup like mental G collapses .. but our D issues are huge and we still don't have enough speed up front to breakdown da half ice game
 
Yesterday was a good lesson on where our team needs to be come May. Of course it would have been nice to beat the Bruins, but there is a lot of good things that can come from yesterdays loss IMO. Boston played about as perfect a road game as you could ask for IMO.

I think we showed some really good play at times, but Boston's attention to detail was ultimately the difference maker. I hate to say it, because I hate the Bruins, their fanbase, and the entire Boston sports community for that matter, but that team is scary good. Not because they have the most talent. I honestly don't even think they have top-5 overall team talent in the NHL. But what they have better then any other team by a mile is swagger, buy-in, and most importantly attention to detail. They play as close to mistake free hockey as any team I can ever remember watching. They've given us next to no free ice in the 3 games we've played them this season.

That said, lets talk some positives. I was happy to see how willingly we were to put pucks on the net despite them being from non threatening areas. Sometimes in games like these, we have a tendency to want to make a low percentage pass or get cute with the puck instead of just outworking our man in in the corners or in front of the blue paint. I thought we showed a real strong presence in the offensive zone, established a good cycle for most of the night and put pucks in behind their D. We worked the low to high and put pucks towards net pretty well all night. It was clearly the message to the D to do so. Which is encouraging.

That said, our forwards lost a ton of battles in front of the night, and we struggled to get pucks through the traffic from the back end. A lot of that credit has to go to the Bruins commitment to defensive zone structure, and their D in specific at boxing our forwards out so well.

Sure we need Sammy to make a couple of those saves, but lets not forget some of those early saves off of clear cut breaks from Clifton and Pasta. At the end of the day, we lost focus way too much. A team like Boston will take advantage, and for the most part, they did just that. The shorty against is a prime example of this lack of focus. It's a 5-10 second lack of focus that ends up in the back of our net. Mitch does everything right, and the 4 other guys just straight leg their way into the defensive zone and get caught puck watching. Not even 1 Leaf looked at anyone other then puck carrier. Sure it's a nice effort from the Bruins PK there, but that is horrendous structure/effort that we gifted them.

All n all, it was not nearly as disastrous of a game as everyone wants to make out. The overwhelming narrative has been that we physically can't keep up with the Bruins. I think last night shows that we absolutely can. I think we just need to remain hyper patient with respect to structure and continue to work pucks down low. We cannot trade chances with this team. We need to play low scoring and low event hockey every time to beat this team. I think the same can be said about TB, but to a slightly lesser degree. Both teams don't give up freebies, we need to find a way to do the exact same. The cup is usually awarded to the team that makes the least mistakes. Hardly never can you outscore your mistakes and win it all. We've come a long way in that regard over the past 6 years, but we still need reminders like yesterday to show us just how much more we have to go.

Enjoy the break fellas, rest up for hopefully a long playoff run!
 
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Our rat can play, yours is a joke.

LOL, Oh Boston fans, the least knowledgeable fans in sports. When I LOLed, I'm not laughing with you, I'm laughing at you.

Lets compare Buntings most recent season, his 3rd season with Marchand's 3rd season.

3rd season
Bunting 23G. 40A, 63P
Marchand 28G, 27A, 55P

I don't know about you, but it looks to me like they have an unusually similar stat line. With Bunting being the better player in his 3rd year.

 
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Not following you.
You said:
The playbook on how to win the cup can't be any more simple, we have to beat Tampa in Round 1 and Boston in Round 2. So you target players that have historically played well vs Boston and Tampa. That is the easy part, the hard part is having the stones to do what you need to do to get those players, because it may cost you your future. I mean how many team KNOW who they are playing in the first two rounds? Three teams know. Boston, Tampa and Toronto.

So go after some Blues.
 
Yeah Bunting plays the perfect rat, one of the most hated players in the league

Even the refs hate him
He can get under your skin for sure but he's not really a dirty player. When I think of a rat I think of a dirty player.
 
Since we are on it.

Pasta elbows/forearm shiver's Lilly, no call, a few seconds later some jackass hits Kerfoot in the head.
Bunting takes a hit to the head no call
Krejci, who is know diver, takes an obvious dive in the middle of the ice and no call.

Any chance we might see the ref's call a fair game?

Wouldn't have changed the outcome, we sucked they dominated but damn, the ref's don't even attempt to hide their bias. We get it Jacobs is the chairman of the NHL board, we get it he's more powerful than Bettman but damn... like it's getting really obvious.
 
You said:
The playbook on how to win the cup can't be any more simple, we have to beat Tampa in Round 1 and Boston in Round 2. So you target players that have historically played well vs Boston and Tampa. That is the easy part, the hard part is having the stones to do what you need to do to get those players, because it may cost you your future. I mean how many team KNOW who they are playing in the first two rounds? Three teams know. Boston, Tampa and Toronto.

So go after some Blues.

Ah gotch ya, sure I'm wiling to bring anyone on that can feed these dirtbag their lunches.

He can get under your skin for sure but he's not really a dirty player. When I think of a rat I think of a dirty player.

He's a very dirty player, watch how he rides the player into the boards.
 
What I saw yesterday is the same thing I saw when Leafs lost to Columbus in the play-in round 4 years ago.

If you play a big heavy game and with an aggressive forecheck putting pressure on the Leafs defense and breakout abilities, that you will force endless mistakes and turnovers.

Boston saw the youth and inexperience in Liljegren and Sandin and exposed them badly in this game to their team winning advantage.,

This was a statement game because of potential playoff matchups and the results and the play gave the Bruins all sorts of playoff ammunition to use against the Leafs come playoff time like better goaltending, more physicality and Leafs defense can't hold up to pressure, and Bruins depth > Leafs depth.

Leafs leave this game with more questions then answers and Leafs gave up 5 goals to Bruins depth and their "Perfection line" wasn't even required in the win.
Part of the problem the D have with a heavy forecheck is from the forwards blowing the zone too soon (Mitch and Willy are the worst) and the center not being in position (JT in particular) to support. When the D find they have nobody to pass to they turn back and get trapped by the forecheck, and that's when they take most of the physical abuse, and give up the puck.

I wouldn't say Marchand is a joke, he can play when he wants to but curious, who is "our rat" Leafs don't really have one?
That poster is obviously a Bruins fan. Marchand can certainly play, while Simmonds, our rat, is a joke.

The last rat we had, Lou took with him when he left.

(Edit) Yeah, Bunting is close. Could be sneakier.
 
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Agreed. You know what you're going to get with him. No goals, and a few assists, but he will paste people to the boards every time he gets on the ice and fight if the team needs a spark. And yet, on one hand, I can't imagine him being in the lineup for the first round, but on the other hand, given the soft makeup of this team, I can't see him not being in the lineup for the first round. Without him, they get rag dolled.
Our Leafs get rag dolled with him in the lineup. He'll get 3 maybe 4 minutes of ice time at the most. With him on the ice, the opposition chances to score against his line rises quite a few percentage points.

JMHO.
 
Part of the problem the D have with a heavy forecheck is from the forwards blowing the zone too soon (Mitch and Willy are the worst) and the center not being in position (JT in particular) to support. When the D find they have nobody to pass to they turn back and get trapped by the forecheck, and that's when they take most of the physical abuse, and give up the puck.


That poster is obviously a Bruins fan. Marchand can certainly play, while Simmonds, our rat, is a joke.

The last rat we had, Lou took with him when he left.

(Edit) Yeah, Bunting is close. Could be sneakier.
Perhaps I have a different definition of a rat but no chance Simmons is a rat.
 
I seriously thought I was watching a replay of the 6-2 debacle against the Senators

A quick synopsis

The opening period was a great period of hockey, of goaltending and even officiating! Both teams skated well and hard, both teams showed off their skills as elite offensive players.

The second period looked like it was going to be more of the same and then Boston decided they wanted the points, punched the Leafs hard on the nose, waited for the retaliation which never came and even though there was no difference on the scoreboard, the difference in the game was noticeable.

The Bs kept up the onslaught, slapped the Leafs occasionally to keep them under the heel, and finished the period with their hair combed and fresh as a daisy.

If in the future the Leafs can ever find it within themselves to not allow opponents to treat them as a nuisance, and instead make the opponent understand that the Leafs can and will happily slap them in the mouth hard and as many times as they'd like. This would then allow the Leafs to win games with their skills, if they cannot or will not flex their muscle to the degree their opponent does. The result will then be what we saw last night.
 
Yes, who scored for the Bruins?

Zacha with 2, Forbort, Greer, Carlo.

Pastrnak, Marchand, Bergeron, Hall, Krejci total of 2 points.


Leafs need another center, Tavares and Kerfoot as your top 2 won't cut it.

Another top 6 winger would go a long way.
What?
Thought JT was being paid to be our 1st or second center
 
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Thought JT was being paid to be our 1st or second center
Tavares is a decent 2C now, as long as he has at least one very good winger, but 1C is beyond him.

Without Matthews I would have liked to have seen Willy and Mitch and either Bunting or Jarnkrok on the top line.
 
Sandin and Liljegren have been excellent for the most part during the regular season, but they are not ready for playoff style hockey.
 
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