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Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 4-3 OT in game 5

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Stephen said:
From the bigger and bigger sample size we get with Campbell he doesn’t really seem to melt down all that often.
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Yup, he had a great 2nd half of the game. Very good bouce back. That was nice to see... I mean he gave the lads a chance to put together a comeback... which they took advantage of... until the idiocy took over at the end.
 
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Jozay said:
Game 6 better be the Matthews & Marner show
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If they couldn’t bring it tonight I honestly have no hope for that. The depth, tight defending, Nylander and solid goaltending from Campbell has got them so far and if they win…it will be for those reasons again
 
Smif said:
I thought a few times Hyman and Marner went down on a rush, Mitch curled back to find the late trailer and Matthews was so far behind the play he had to put it in the corner. Matthews was very off tonight.
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The first goal is a better summary of how that line has been.

Matthews has a tap in. Marner dangles and skates it out of scoring position instead. <--- This is basically a recording now after 5 games. I'm not bashing the guy. I like Marner. It's an objective statement based on what I have been seeing. Luckily for him we got a fluke goal out of this one.

Matthews has to be better on the play you are pointing out yes, but the general trend for that line so far has been over playing the puck and not playing smart in the offensive zone.

I think people were too caught up on Marner stick handling too much again that they totally missed Matthews was waiting for the tap in. Highlights are on youtube if you need to verify what I'm saying. They have a rocket winner on their line but not prioritizing his stick. 5 games in a row now of it.

At least Matthews still ended with 7 hits and 2 blocks. Yeah he got smacked on the faceoffs but he was 16/4 15/12 and 14/8 prior so most likely an anomaly.
 
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This is what I'm talking about. Look on this Nashville goal right now, the dman drops down from the blue line to the slot twice on the play, the forwards stay and and get him the puck twice. Granted we don't have the defending Norris winner but we do have dmen capable of contributing offensively more than they're allowed to. Why can't we do this?


edit: Streamable links don't work here apparently so I'll try posting with spaces.

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saffronleaf said:
core players did lose us the game by not showing up and contributing.
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Our supporting players have done a fantastic job chipping in. But our best players need to show up

No way a potential 50 goal scorer doesn't get decent chances. I'm looking at past 50 goal scorers and I dont remember them being this invisible
 
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wingman75 said:
Yup, he had a great 2nd half of the game. Very good bouce back. That was nice to see... I mean he gave the lads a chance to put together a comeback... which they took advantage of... until the idiocy took over at the end.
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That OT giveaway reminds me of a few nonchalant OT starts in the regular season, the latest was the Marner gift to Tkachuk (and Norris?) in Game 54 but seem to recall was also a problem vs Edmonton or Winnipeg where we just coughed up a 2-1 during the mid point of the season and then once again vs Gaudreau(?) and Calgary when there was an offensive zone turnover. 3-3 is a little different but the carelessness is obviously not acceptable.
 
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wingman75 said:
Yes, its been terribly disappointing for those two. I thought Marner was very good tonight though, he just had no one to pass too as there was never an F3 in play it seemed, just always him and Hyman... not sure what Matthews was up to. Matthews was good defensively for the most part, but Nylander is able to be good both ways... as is Marner though I realize he is not scoring.

There were 2 plays that stood out to me. on the Habs 2nd goal there was a scramble in front of the net, Habs won it and pushed the puck towards the net and I think Holl put it in. It might have been in the 3rd, same exact play in front of Price, guess who wins the battle? Habs... puck cleared, no danger.

Our guys rarely if ever completly sell out in those situaions... like someone has to say fck it, I am all in. We are clearly the better skilled team here, and have been matching the Habs effort (which has been kinda lame) so have been able to control the series for the most part... I mean even tonight, we played like complete crap and prob should have won. Just makes me wonder how game 1 vs the Jets will go (for either of these teams).
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Matthews looked disengaged right from when Gallagher crossed checked him in the neutral zone early in the first after a whistle. There was no call and it was kind of like "i'm not dealing with this today". But i agree they are too relaxed and never play with desperation. I do think Keefe has to find a balance of getting them to understand you can't just sit back but you actually have to go after it and play with some desperation. My guess is that the messaging in the room has been to take the pressure to win off of their backs, which I agree with to some extent, however they should have played with a desperation tonight like this game means everything.
 
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glue said:
If they couldn’t bring it tonight I honestly have no hope for that. The depth, tight defending, Nylander and solid goaltending from Campbell has got them so far and if they win…it will be for those reasons again
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Super concerned about them. Can we win a series with them being ordinary? Yes. Can we win the cup? No.
 
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FWIW the Isles won their series against Pittsburgh and Barzal only had 3 assists.. so it is possible to win with your depth but if you’re going to make a cup push your stars need to shine
 
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Stonehands1990 said:
Galchenyuk can chip it down to Bogo or ring it and let us win it back behind the net or opposite corner. Absolutely no way you can justify a tape to tape giveaway at the blue line
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I'm not dumping on Gally but it was a poor play started by other events. Your interpretation is bang on AND he could have just ragged it on the wall when he did a good job of getting possession and wait for our support to come in such a dangerous area. He's been very good for 4 games! It was tough to watch though.... fffff
 
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a bit of an aside but when was the last time we scored on a breakaway? i think we're 0-3 in this series so far.
 
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Suntouchable13 said:
Super concerned about them. Can we win a series with them being ordinary? Yes. Can we win the cup? No.
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Cup? If we do manage to get past Montreal, we definitely won’t get past the Jets with them playing like this, cause I’m willing to bet the Jets stars will be good
 
I am reminded of a few years ago under Babcock in the regular season we gave up a 2-0 while on a 5-3 PP to NJ and they scored. That was bad.
 
francis246 said:
Matthews looked disengaged right from when Gallagher crossed checked him in the neutral zone early in the first after a whistle. There was no call and it was kind of like "i'm not dealing with this today". But i agree they are too relaxed and never play with desperation. I do think Keefe has to find a balance of getting them to understand you can't just sit back but you actually have to go after it and play with some desperation. My guess is that the messaging in the room has been to take the pressure to win off of their backs, which I agree with to some extent, however they should have played with a desperation tonight like this game means everything.
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If your claim is that Matthews was disengaged during this game, how do you explain him leading both teams in hits?

I think people confuse Matthews not scoring with him being disengaged.
 
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