No, I have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER seen a sports media like the one the Leafs have. People like to compare them to the Yankees, but the New York media isn't built from the top down out of guys who DESPERATELY want the Yankees to lose so they can laugh about it...
Post-Game Talk: Leafs lose 3-1; lose series
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Pageau, Palmeiri, Zajac, Greene...
Bomber0104
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They are in the second round and tied right now against the Bruins, and the Leafs got bounced by the Habs in the first round...
The Leafs made a terrible decision going with the rookie GM/coach tandem and there's no reason to be sour about it.
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Lou Lamoriello could have been like our Alex Anthopolous\Masai Ujiri. Both the Dodgers and Islanders are perennial Championship contending teams with a winning culture.
I think you nailed it on the head there.
It's a safe bet that the media here is a major poison, and it deflates the players' attitudes towards this city. The negative things these media hacks publish about the players is downright inexcusable, and causes the players to eventually say "ok, screw this franchise" and come playoff time they really stick it to everyone who doubts them and they intentionally throw these big games. Choking a series or two away might be believable, but a pattern has emerged now where this is no longer just honestly losing these important games, they are totally throwing them. A repeating pattern isn't random, it's calculated. And this is one-too-many "blown series" that this team has delivered over the years now. Eventually you will win one of these series, but they never do. So now it becomes a little more than just an "unfortunate" stretch of bad game 7's. Players are mad, and yeah, I think it's at the media for one. At the very least it's definitely a contributor to all these suspicious performances in the last 6 or 7 playoff appearances
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Yes. I'm of the opinion now that Dubas was a mistake. Can someone please tell me though what Lou did here that makes them think he would have taken us to a cup? His contracts and drafting were god awful.
The Devil's played better than the sum of their parts for their 3 cups going against powerhouses like Colorado or Detroit. Even when the Devils made the cup the year they lost to the Kings they also did. I'd say our first playoff run to play the Caps was a legitimate surprise and exceeded most expectations entering the year.
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Absolutely.
And you make some very good points, although I disagree with the Foligno take. If he was healthy, and the Leafs advance, Foligno is the type of player you want in the playoff trenches. He's a pit boss. Unfortunately, he was too injured to fully enter the pit.
But the performances of 34 and 16 were inexcusable. Let's be honest, they were $22 million no shows, and that's unacceptable. If they want all the praise for leading the team in scoring and winning the Rocket Richard, they need to shoulder the blame when they score a combined 1 goal in a huge 7-game series. This loss falls directly on their shoulders, followed by Keefe.
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The whole world knows Marner is not an elite scorer in the sense you can make a one line team with him and expect to rake goals though. The assumption Marner is an elite scorer is what killed us basically.
I blame Keefe more than Marner. All it would have took to send us to the semis was a simple switch of Nylander and Marner.
I feel like clubhouse politics kept that from happening. Take Marner off line 1 and put Nylander instead? Blasphemy.
And Rogers turfed AA for the bargain basement GM from Cleveland ... If MLSE lets Masai go I think we have to start thinking international conspiracy.
I'm not sure what to make of this post because for some fans they've been reading this exact same post the last 50 years, but especially the last 10
I don't think discussing the pre-cap era is relevant here. New Jersey didn't spend like some of the big players, but they weren't exactly cheapskates, either...
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He signed Barzal for 7 while Marner is getting 11. He didn't trade a 1st and two 4th for 4 regular season assists. He's didn't hire Keefe.
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You're reacting to the media like a fan. Players don't waste their time with media outside of their required commitments. The married ones go home to their families and the single ones spend their free time playing video games and chasing girls.
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Interestingly, his current team, the Braves, has also appeared to hit the wall this season.
Gallagher was shooting for a rebound but got a first goal on the play. Weak goal from Campbell there and a huge game changer. Just my opinion. I think we're looking too deep here. Let's get a real goalie.
Maplebeasts
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Dubas has not worked out. I'm just saying with hindsight Shanny should have just gone with a third party.
This team couldn't close out in two successive OT games where if they won they'd advance. This is more than one goal.
TheGreatOne11
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God love Jack Campbell, how hard he fought and how well he played this series and the mans in tears blaming himself.
NOT YOUR FAULT THEY NEVER CLOSED OUT THE DAMN SERIES WHEN YOU WERE STANDING ON YOUR HEAD MY DUDE.
For him to say they battled so hard and rely on him and he let them down, they let you down brother, Matthews had like one dominant shift the ENTIRE game. Scored 1 goal in 7. Marner was giving it away like he walks the street at night.
I'm still angry, I'll settle down but there was a lot wrong about this series and Jack wasn't one of them.
Still in disbelief Thornton was on the powerplay all the way into game 7, even having a spot, slow Jumbo, dead on his stick Joe, last game you'll see him play, HOF for sure, but he's been done for a while, nobody is giving him a contract.
Spezza i feel the worst for honestly, man is a work horse but only has so much left in the tank and we are wasting it, if he left for a better opportunity i would not blame him and would cheer as hard as i possibly can for the man, I've become such a massive fan through his leaf tenure. What a gem of a human being.
Nylander, i used to give you shit for your lack of defensive play, still not the biggest fan of it, but always knew you had another gear, you look like you enjoy being the star, was one of the very few players that showed up and at least showed some sort of killer instinct.
Kerfoot is gone in the expansion unless we swing some sort of deal giving up a pick, he showed he was capable of more, played very well for the most part.
Galch has low hockey I.Q but he was at least someone i noticed fighting trying to do something i would give him another contract.
Marner was a shell of his former self this series and especially tonight. Bad give aways, terrible looks, bad passes, getting run over, losing puck battles, was just 6 bars below mediocre.
Matthews. You don't get paid like you do, and for how short your contract is, and give us one goal in 7 games. Not even dominant at all where i could say "they are gonna come" he showed one flash all game where he took it over, other than that was non existent. Breaks up some passes and we all get happy he's not tripping over himself? Dude is paid to score. Won the rocket. Acted like a polly pocket.
NOT YOUR FAULT THEY NEVER CLOSED OUT THE DAMN SERIES WHEN YOU WERE STANDING ON YOUR HEAD MY DUDE.
For him to say they battled so hard and rely on him and he let them down, they let you down brother, Matthews had like one dominant shift the ENTIRE game. Scored 1 goal in 7. Marner was giving it away like he walks the street at night.
I'm still angry, I'll settle down but there was a lot wrong about this series and Jack wasn't one of them.
Still in disbelief Thornton was on the powerplay all the way into game 7, even having a spot, slow Jumbo, dead on his stick Joe, last game you'll see him play, HOF for sure, but he's been done for a while, nobody is giving him a contract.
Spezza i feel the worst for honestly, man is a work horse but only has so much left in the tank and we are wasting it, if he left for a better opportunity i would not blame him and would cheer as hard as i possibly can for the man, I've become such a massive fan through his leaf tenure. What a gem of a human being.
Nylander, i used to give you shit for your lack of defensive play, still not the biggest fan of it, but always knew you had another gear, you look like you enjoy being the star, was one of the very few players that showed up and at least showed some sort of killer instinct.
Kerfoot is gone in the expansion unless we swing some sort of deal giving up a pick, he showed he was capable of more, played very well for the most part.
Galch has low hockey I.Q but he was at least someone i noticed fighting trying to do something i would give him another contract.
Marner was a shell of his former self this series and especially tonight. Bad give aways, terrible looks, bad passes, getting run over, losing puck battles, was just 6 bars below mediocre.
Matthews. You don't get paid like you do, and for how short your contract is, and give us one goal in 7 games. Not even dominant at all where i could say "they are gonna come" he showed one flash all game where he took it over, other than that was non existent. Breaks up some passes and we all get happy he's not tripping over himself? Dude is paid to score. Won the rocket. Acted like a polly pocket.
Bomber0104
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Campbell was one of our best players across all games in the series.
No, the Leafs offence just choked once again.
Don't chalk it up to much more than that.
Again, said commitments involve taking questions from guys like Steve Simmons.
And the fact is, the media in Toronto is way worse now than it was in the early 00's, and it was already bad in the early 00's. But now the vast majority of Leaf fans at Bell & Rogers have been let go (to show Bettman they aren't biased towards the team they own), and it seems like 90% of their guys, from the play-by-play guys down to the reporters who interview the players are openly hostile to the whole damned team. You don't think that throws players off a bit? Especially if they're coming in from teams that don't generally get the kind of crazy press attention the Leafs do?
If that’s the case, why don’t these players do the same thing in the regular seasons. Why become the 4th highest points player in the league and why bother winning the Rocket. Why bother playing 7 games instead of 4 in the 1st round?
The players namely AM and Mitch didn’t step up, heck they actually took a few steps back as they didn’t even play 50% of the way they played in the regular season.
haha it really is a scary thought, to imagine that every player/management guy that comes through Toronto is here just to "ride the wave" and cash in.. this sort of thing happens in bigger companies, we all know that
heck Presidents do it to their own countries, so why not players/management do it to their own teams... Toronto Maple Leafs is a cash cow juggernaut, plenty of dough just waiting to be cashed in on by those players and personnel who pass through
heck Presidents do it to their own countries, so why not players/management do it to their own teams... Toronto Maple Leafs is a cash cow juggernaut, plenty of dough just waiting to be cashed in on by those players and personnel who pass through
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