Confirmed with Link: Leafs go 4-4-1 in expansion, Dermott, Kerfoot, McCann, exposed

[Funk21]

He did not trade a second (Hallander) and a 7th.

He traded Hallander and a 7th.

Hallander was a second round pick. So he traded a second and a 7th for McCann. If he loses McCann in the expansion draft it would be fair to surmise that it was to protect Kerfoot. That is terrible asset management because we still don’t know what Hallander will be.

 

[Trapper]

Dang Victor Hedman only managed 51.27xgf%. What did he do wrong.

Won the Cup on a torn meniscus.
Sure it’s not fancy stats but sometimes you get lucky.

 

[Kurtz]

Hallander was a second round pick. So he traded a second and a 7th for McCann. If he loses McCann in the expansion draft it would be fair to surmise that it was to protect Kerfoot. That is terrible asset management because we still don’t know what Hallander will be.

Ultimately, if what the Leafs lose in the expansion draft is the equivalent of a 2nd round pick, that's likely better than the penance that most teams will pay to Seattle, and is thus decent asset management.

It's just unfortunate that the trade from yesterday, which everyone loved, would be erased.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I wanted Seattle to take Kerfoot. Instead they’re clearly going to take McCann and we’ll still have Kerfoot.

I don’t understand it in the slightest.

 

[Superstar]

Ron Hextall: We don't want to expose McCann!
Kyle Dubas: We'll expose him for ya, here's Hallander and a 7th, enjoy!

 

[Mess]

Hallander was a second round pick. So he traded a second and a 7th for McCann. If he loses McCann in the expansion draft it would be fair to surmise that it was to protect Kerfoot. That is terrible asset management because we still don’t know what Hallander will be.

Ever get that feeling the Leafs are just constantly spinning their wheels in hopes of breaking even?.

Leafs trade Marleau and 1st (13th OA) to dump contract to re-sign Kapanen. The Leafs trade Kapenen to recover a lost 1st (15th OV) & Hallander..

Then Leafs trade Kadri & 3rd for Kerfoot and Barrie and let Barrie walk as UFA.. Now Leafs trade Hallander and 7th for McCann to replace Kerfoot who was supposed to replace Kadri, but lost in expansion.

So what is left over McCann and Rodion Amirov and we got to protect Justin Holl, after the dust settles and some marginal cap space difference to use in 2021-22 season?

 

[Superstar]

I wanted Seattle to take Kerfoot. Instead they’re clearly going to take McCann and we’ll still have Kerfoot.

I don’t understand it in the slightest.

My thinking is Dubas doesn't think he's got a better option than Kerfoot at his caphit after the expansion draft if loses him, so he's taking his chances with still having one of Kerfoot or McCann, so he made the trade prior.

 

[TML Dynasty]

Who knows what talks Seattle and the Leafs have had. Sure discus how crazy it would be to lose McCann after just getting him. Sure talk about how you value certain players above others. But all this 'Dubas is an idiot' nonsense is turning this place so toxic.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

My thinking is Dubas doesn't think he's got a better option than Kerfoot at his caphit after the expansion draft if loses him, so he's taking his chances with still having one of Kerfoot or McCann, so he made the trade prior.

It makes sense if you’re fine with keeping a 3rd liner Center who paced for 11 goals/30 points last year who makes 3.5 mil.

Again, I just don’t understand any of this.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

The whole “it’s like we only lost Hallander” thing is such a “in a vacuum” explanation.

We acquired Jared McCann. He’s a member of our roster. He’s easily our fifth best forward. He’s easily more valuable than Justin Holl, who we protected.

If Seattle takes Jared McCann, then we’ve had a brutal mismanagement of the expansion draft, and lost a member of our roster greater than what we needed to be.

I think Kyle Dubas has more positives than negatives as General Manager. I think odds are whoever we hire next, will likely do a worse job.

However, this is a brutal brutal miscalculation

The Leafs should have a way easier time finding a forward who can replace McCann at 3 million than a defenseman who can replace Holl at 2 million. I don't really care if Dubas loses McCann or Kerfoot, but he deserves a ton of criticism if he f***s up in free agency again

 

[stickty111]

I think we should have gone with 7-3-1. I like Holl but I am not going to like his next contract so you may as well let Seattle take him. Holl really slowed down towards the end of the season and without Muzzin, I am not sure he's a top four D on this team.

Edit: Never mind, Holl has another 2 years at 2M before he's UFA. That kind of value is too good to give up for the Leafs.

Fingers crossed that the Kraken pick Dermott. I really want Kerfoot and McCann both on the team.

Thats my preference. In that scenario, you keep both your best middle 6 forwards. It also potentially opens up an avenue for Liljegren to get a much needed shot. If they pick Kerfoot, it's not great but it frees up 3.5 to maybe get a better player. I guess the worst is if they pick McCann.

 

[Cor]

The Leafs should have a way easier time finding a forward who can replace McCann at 3 million than a defenseman who can replace Holl at 2 million. I don't really care if Dubas loses McCann or Kerfoot, but he deserves a ton of criticism if he f***s up in free agency again

We have two d-man internally who could play beside Muzzin and get similar results for less money than Holl.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Who knows what talks Seattle and the Leafs have had. Sure discus how crazy it would be to lose McCann after just getting him. Sure talk about how you value certain players above others. But all this 'Dubas is an idiot' nonsense is turning this place so toxic.

No. The leafs continuing to underperform and lose in humiliating fashion is making the fans become more realistic (what you call “toxic”).

 

[TheShape]

IMO you won't get McCann after the ED for Hollander and a 7th. You now have insurance at the #3C position if Francis takes Kerfoot or McCann. I am not a fan of the GM but this move makes sense.

Neither McCann nor Kerfoot are the answer as a #3 centre on any contending team. Moving out assets and playing musical chairs for nothing.

Just lose Kerfoot or Dermott and move on.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

We have two d-man internally who could play beside Muzzin and get similar results for less money than Holl.

In theory yes, but neither have shown it (assuming you mean Dermott and Liljegren). Neither of them were even able to secure a regular spot in the lineup last year. The Leafs could also hypothetically replace McCann by having Robertson play in the top 6, but I don't think that's a necessary gamble either

 

[Throw More Waffles]

The Leafs should have a way easier time finding a forward who can replace McCann at 3 million than a defenseman who can replace Holl at 2 million. I don't really care if Dubas loses McCann or Kerfoot, but he deserves a ton of criticism if he f***s up in free agency again

Locking up 9 players as opposed to 11 seems strange to me. Only 3 teams did it that way.

That be that being said, I agree that Holl should be locked up more than those other players. Played well on the right side beside Muzzin.

 

[Superstar]

So the Leafs are in the same company as the lightning.

How awful.

Only if they are during the playoffs.

 

[kb]

Hallander was a second round pick. So he traded a second and a 7th for McCann. If he loses McCann in the expansion draft it would be fair to surmise that it was to protect Kerfoot. That is terrible asset management because we still don’t know what Hallander will be.

Yes, trading the Leafs 8th best prospect who scored 24 points in 52 games in the Swedish league for a guy who just put up 32 points in 43 games in the NHL at the age of 24 is terrible asset management.

I swear people don't (or can't) think before they post stuff like this. You aren't convincing anyone because we all have the ability to think and ignore BS.

 

[leafsfan2point0]

I do understand protecting Holl because his play at 2M for the next two seasons is valuable. But somehow I’m still somewhat surprised by this list.

I pray we lose Kerfoot…

 

[stickty111]

We have two d-man internally who could play beside Muzzin and get similar results for less money than Holl.

Thats a fair argument. I think with Liljegren who I assume is one of the d man you are talking about here, is that multiple times Dubas has made him off limits in trades as said by Bob and Elliotte. So if the team likes him so much, they need to give him a fair chance. He's clearly ourgrown the AHL. Time to see what we have in him. If he's great, awesome. Find some value in trade for Holl.

I think Dubas wants to have insurance in Holl. It's clear they don't believe in Dermott.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

Hallander was a second round pick. So he traded a second and a 7th for McCann.

Incorrect, he traded Filip Hallander and a 2023 7th round pick.

 

[kb]

Neither McCann nor Kerfoot are the answer as a #3 centre on any contending team. Moving out assets and playing musical chairs for nothing.

Just lose Kerfoot or Dermott and move on.

How about this.....

Maybe McCann is a solution for a top-6 left winger? I know it's a real stretch, but......think.

 

[Cor]

In theory yes, but neither have shown it (assuming you mean Dermott and Liljegren). Neither of them were even able to secure a regular spot in the lineup last year. The Leafs could also hypothetically replace McCann by having Robertson play in the top 6, but I don't think that's a necessary gamble either

Difference being right now, we need both Robertson and McCann in the lineup.

McCann is better than anyone we could've signed in the 3M range.

I can think of FA d-men we could sign around 2 that would be similar to what Holl brings.

 

[The CyNick]

Who knows what talks Seattle and the Leafs have had. Sure discus how crazy it would be to lose McCann after just getting him. Sure talk about how you value certain players above others. But all this 'Dubas is an idiot' nonsense is turning this place so toxic.

Simple solution. Fire Dubas.

And Shanny.

And Keefe.

Then there will be peace and the Leafs can be great again.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Yes, trading the Leafs 8th best prospect who scored 24 points in 52 games in the Swedish league for a guy who just put up 32 points in 43 games in the NHL at the age of 24 is terrible asset management.

I swear people don't (or can't) think before they post stuff like this. You aren't convincing anyone because we all have the ability to think and ignore BS.

Well, if Seattle takes McCann then we traded that decent prospect in order to protect a 3D line C who paced for 11 goals-30 points last year at 3.5 mil.

Seems like pretty horrible asset management to me…