TSN: Leafs' Connolly placed on waivers - McKenzie: Cleared waivers.

sangreale

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Grabs was bumped up a few times last season - between he and PK, there was not enough puck to go around - they both want it all the time.

Reminded me of Sundin and Mogilny all over again.

TC is not a checker - RC tries to turn everyone into a plumber with his defensive philosophy. If we're not playing some variation of a modified trap by midseason, I'll be shocked.

Gee that sounds like fun. I would love to go into one season where the Leafs are paying for one GM and one Head Coach.
 

thewave

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Grabs was bumped up a few times last season - between he and PK, there was not enough puck to go around - they both want it all the time.

Reminded me of Sundin and Mogilny all over again.

TC is not a checker - RC tries to turn everyone into a plumber with his defensive philosophy. If we're not playing some variation of a modified trap by midseason, I'll be shocked.

I think in time they could adjust to one another, Grabs is more giving than most people think. He was constantly feeding Frats gifts when they played together sadly he could not convert, same with Kules unfortunately. I think with JVR here now you could create a proper second line (not that the KGM line was bad when clicking). There will be lots of line combinations this season I think. We won't know TC though, perhaps Frats will find his stride and Kadri will grow up and play a mans game plus be productive.
 

Mr Scarface*

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Grabs was bumped up a few times last season - between he and PK, there was not enough puck to go around - they both want it all the time.

Reminded me of Sundin and Mogilny all over again.

TC is not a checker - RC tries to turn everyone into a plumber with his defensive philosophy. If we're not playing some variation of a modified trap by midseason, I'll be shocked.
Now see I like that there, that is some trap music right there and my ears are loving it already. Meaning all those points that roll straight to our count. Trap game is the music we'll listen to by midseason.
 

ponder

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Waiving Connolly was a good and obvious move, as was trading Lombardi. These guys brought very little to the table last season, it's better to open up the spots for skilled youngsters who will be hungrier and hustle harder. Now we just have to trade or waive Steckel and things will be looking good.
 

Tak7

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Waiving Connolly was a good and obvious move, as was trading Lombardi. These guys brought very little to the table last season, it's better to open up the spots for skilled youngsters who will be hungrier and hustle harder. Now we just have to trade or waive Steckel and things will be looking good.

Why Steckel?

One of the best face-off men in the team, and a Carlyle favorite last year when he came in and took the job. RC liked using Steckel on whatever shut down line he would throw over against the opposition's best.

Steckel also seems like a good guy in the room and one who has a certain firmness when it comes to dealing with the media.

While he won't win you any games, I think Steckel brings a lot of intangibles. Granted, you can find a Steckel-like player anywhere around the league, I'm not sure I understand your opinion that Steckel is the next problem the Leafs should be tackling.

I look at Komisarek, and to a much lesser extent, Liles, as problematic contracts that Nonis might want to consider moving.
 

EucaLEAFtys

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Why Steckel?

One of the best face-off men in the team, and a Carlyle favorite last year when he came in and took the job. RC liked using Steckel on whatever shut down line he would throw over against the opposition's best.

Steckel also seems like a good guy in the room and one who has a certain firmness when it comes to dealing with the media.

While he won't win you any games, I think Steckel brings a lot of intangibles. Granted, you can find a Steckel-like player anywhere around the league, I'm not sure I understand your opinion that Steckel is the next problem the Leafs should be tackling.

I look at Komisarek, and to a much lesser extent, Liles, as problematic contracts that Nonis might want to consider moving.

There are ample reasons to get rid of Steckel, but he'll likely solve that little problem for us by moving on to another team this summer as an unrestricted free agent.

There are still other, more pressing, issues that Nonis needs to deal with if he really wants to properly re-build this team: like getting rid of Komisarek, Liles, and a few others who aren't worth what they're currently being paid.

Now is the time to clean house, what with the Cap dropping for next season. Nonis (if he's still the GM this up-coming summer) can't afford to have any ridiculous contracts hanging over his head going into next season; thus, getting rid of both Liles and Komisarek as soon as possible would be a major boon going forward (especially if Nonis can trade them for something of quality).

Others, like MacArthur, who are on expiring contracts and will likely become UFA's should also be considered trade-bait.

If there was ever a perfect time to tank, then now is that time. It's time to get the REAL re-build started.
 

JoeyBeans

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If Dave Nonis were a runner with a lead off of first base, the great late Phillies play-by-play man Harry Kalas would be saying, "He is taking one heck of a lead off of the bag. That man looks 'runnerish'."
 

rumman

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Kadri doesn't fit the mold of a Carlyle player at all really, maybe he will fit in. Frattin is sturdy and potentially a good player but has not had ANY finishing touch at the NHL level. Komarov your guess is good as mine. Brown, a guy who skates fast gets no points and is a middleweight (redundant), Steckel a big guy that doesn't use his size all to much but has a knack for the faceoff and intercepting passes between the points on the pk. Bozak is just a 3rd line C playing with star players and gets by riding the gravy train. Colborne, who the heck knows if he can convert to the NHL, I am not sure he can.

Now all that said, Tim Connolly is the best hockey player out of that bunch. Sadly he was injured a lot and seemed to lose heart mid season when Wilson started throwing him here there and everywhere.

Worst Coach the leafs ever had.

Oh boy, where do I start, Connelly WAS a good player, once upon a time, the fact is he's a often injured, hasn't played anywhere near the level he played with his days with the Kings, and most disturbing, looks indifferent when on the ice. Regardless of what you think of Connelly compared to Kadri, Frattin, Komarov, Steckle, Bozak, or Colborne, the fact is all of them exibit far more desire to play on the Leafs. I'll take a less talented player who gives it his all any day of the week than a skilled player who doesn't care, I think Caryle would too.
 

Bleed Blue and White

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If other teams would prefer to trade for him with us retaining salary I'd be happy with that. We have the cap room anyways, it's not exactly like we need the 900,000 if we bury him, why not take on 2-3 mill of his salary and get an asset back for him. Makes sense to me.
 

blujaysrock

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At 4.5 it's going to be tough to find takers.

He's only making 3.850 this year in actually money, though. Leafs can eat some of that (lets say 0.850) and the team who takes him only has to pay him 3M. That's still high, but certainly reasonable.
 

4evaBlue

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If other teams would prefer to trade for him with us retaining salary I'd be happy with that. We have the cap room anyways, it's not exactly like we need the 900,000 if we bury him, why not take on 2-3 mill of his salary and get an asset back for him. Makes sense to me.

Agreed, getting some asset(s) back for him would be nice, preferably in the form of draft picks. Maybe a 2nd, or something. We don't really need more mediocre prospects, and I doubt Connolly would fetch more than that.
 

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