Unbelievable ref performance. Game managed and screwed the Leafs while they were 2-0 up. And then game managed and screwed both teams over when the Oilers tied it.
Post-Game Talk: Leafs beat Oilers (and refs!) 4-3. We're going streaking!
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Not happy to see a solid start blown, but the refs are the refs. Really happy to see another win.
Still with all divisional games I think we're bound to see a lot of these back and forth types. Not many runaway games. Basically almost be like a playoff like atmosphere for a lot of the way.
Glad the Leafs are finding ways to win these. I feel like a lot of these types of games in the last couple of years ended in an OT/SO win/loss. But they're finding a way to win in regulations
Slumps will happen though, so hopefully they can iron out the issues.
One more game to go before a needed break.
Still with all divisional games I think we're bound to see a lot of these back and forth types. Not many runaway games. Basically almost be like a playoff like atmosphere for a lot of the way.
Glad the Leafs are finding ways to win these. I feel like a lot of these types of games in the last couple of years ended in an OT/SO win/loss. But they're finding a way to win in regulations
Slumps will happen though, so hopefully they can iron out the issues.
One more game to go before a needed break.
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Halloween in January? Pretty cool he’s dressed up as a porcelain doll.
So from the highlights you figure Muzzin should have done better facing a 5 on 3 with the best player in the world AND another hart trophy winner on the ice?
Muzzin is great on the PK and most players would fare much, much worse, so to answer your question, No.
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Going to have make some decisions on some guys:
Soup - if he can't produce where does he belong?
Barb - he's not getting much ice time, but he's not doing much with it when he does
Vesey - he's just meh to me
I'd like to see Anderson given another shot, keep Boyd in for now and rotate Engvall, Spezza or some combination of
Soup - if he can't produce where does he belong?
Barb - he's not getting much ice time, but he's not doing much with it when he does
Vesey - he's just meh to me
I'd like to see Anderson given another shot, keep Boyd in for now and rotate Engvall, Spezza or some combination of
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I think the penalties did take the leafs off their rhythm and shifted momentum. The measly make up calls don't come close to rectifying the effect those had on the game.
I hope the leafs dominate on Saturday.
I hope the leafs dominate on Saturday.
WillTheThrill
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Whining about the officials not putting time on the clock when the oilers iced it
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I agree, but 3 calls against us were atrocious. Are you doubting the refs have been particularly biased against us this season? If you are you haven’t been watching the games. It started from the vicious crosschecks Matthews endured the first game. The propensity for calls against us EACH game has been alarming. On the other hand, for a team that has had so much possession we get very few calls in our favour.
BAM
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I'll never understand the reffing in hockey compared to the other sports I've watched/played.
In baseball the umpire doesn't stop calling strikes on the losing team when they're down by a lot
In basketball the refs don't call a bunch of fouls on the team winning by a lot
In football the refs don't give out flags just to keep the game close
Only hockey does this under the disguise of "parity". Why not actually call the game fair, throw out game-management and see what teams are actually capable of?
The Leafs won that game despite a 7-3 powerplay advantage for the Oilers. Imagine how quick the game would've been over if the Leafs had 7 powerplays instead. You could tell it was game-management too because every time the Oilers tied it up they'd call a weak call on the Oilers to send the Leafs to the powerplay.
In baseball the umpire doesn't stop calling strikes on the losing team when they're down by a lot
In basketball the refs don't call a bunch of fouls on the team winning by a lot
In football the refs don't give out flags just to keep the game close
Only hockey does this under the disguise of "parity". Why not actually call the game fair, throw out game-management and see what teams are actually capable of?
The Leafs won that game despite a 7-3 powerplay advantage for the Oilers. Imagine how quick the game would've been over if the Leafs had 7 powerplays instead. You could tell it was game-management too because every time the Oilers tied it up they'd call a weak call on the Oilers to send the Leafs to the powerplay.
Game 1 vs Edmonton, Marner gets called for making contact with an Oiler at center ice. Later in the game, Leafs tie it in the third. Muzzin gets called for an Oiler tripping his teammate, Oilers score winning goal on PP
I legit thought it can't get worse than that. This is partly me being angry as a fan of Toronto but as a fan of hockey this is just sad. I get there are bad calls in other sports but what's deemed a penalty in todays game makes no sense to me. I get calling obstruction but why call something like a player touching another with a stick in a non malicious way that isn't hooking or trying to stop the players momentum? They showed a Habs-Bruins game from the late 70s and it was 10000x funner to watch than this PP game we have now. I was born in 93. Had I grown up on 70s/80s hockey, I would not be watching this league anymore. 6/9 of my family that watched around 2002 don't watch anymore. They still watch baseball and football.
I legit thought it can't get worse than that. This is partly me being angry as a fan of Toronto but as a fan of hockey this is just sad. I get there are bad calls in other sports but what's deemed a penalty in todays game makes no sense to me. I get calling obstruction but why call something like a player touching another with a stick in a non malicious way that isn't hooking or trying to stop the players momentum? They showed a Habs-Bruins game from the late 70s and it was 10000x funner to watch than this PP game we have now. I was born in 93. Had I grown up on 70s/80s hockey, I would not be watching this league anymore. 6/9 of my family that watched around 2002 don't watch anymore. They still watch baseball and football.
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I agree partly but not at the trailing team component. To me, a league wide memo was sent out on what constitutes a penalty in todays game. They weren't penalties for 80+ years. I get 0 excitement watching endless powerplays. even strength, the league is an overcoached systematic bore. Players are coached to not use their skill and making a mistake is not acceptable. It's about puck possession and analytics, which kills it. Only on the PP do you see most offensive skilled players fully use this skill.
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When the season started Simmonds looked slow and didn’t seem like he had much left in the tank. The last few games he’s looked like a different player.
The funny thing is, it's done under the guise of making games closer and more competitive but a lot of the time it does the opposite.
5 minutes left team A is down a goal and swarming the offensive zone, there's no way refs are calling penalty and team B knows it so starts hooking and holding like nobodies business to hold on to the win. Goals/Offense/Comebacks, fans hate that stuff.
The only place for game management is in a blow out, we don't need to see team up 6-0 getting powerplays for meaningless hooks or slashes and running up the score when players stop caring about playing defense anymore. Any other time call what actually happens!
BAM
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Baseball is the closest to this kind of thinking with running up the score when you're up by a lot, it's dumb too:
1. The other team could always come back
2. This isn't an amateur league, it's the best league in the world, who cares if a team get's its feelings hurt when they get blown out.
In the Kessel era it felt like the Bruins would destroy the Leafs every regular season game, sure didn't see any "game-management" back then with the powerplays.
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