GDT: Leafs at Pitts 7:00pm CBC/SNO Sat, Oct 23rd

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Saw the Leafs losing, what seems to be the biggest issue?

I did not see a slow start this season. Just curious.
 
It's becoming more and more evident with each passing game that Babcock wasn't the problem.

I know that alot of you don't want to hear that, but it's a fact.
I think it is fairly obvious it is the players. It has been the last 2 playoff series.
 
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Yet They did.

In all seriousness Canadian boys will not be inspired by that shitshow. That’s nothing but weakness, imo.

soccer will kill hockey.
Fell like the YT community has an opportunity to produce intermission shows. Nobody watching what they're putting out
 
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I know people here love Kampf but I am not a big fan

He's essentially another Mikaheyev. Except Mikaheyev does generate some chances
Being one dimensional rarely works out in today's NHL. You need to be able to contribute
He’s a good fourth liner. Perhaps that’s the issue.
 
can we split up Marner and Matthews. Teams know to double Matthews and leave Marner to shoot. Put 88 and 34 together and who do they cover and who is the shooter. 16 goes with 91 and 58 and same thing on that line who is the shooter between 91 and 58.
 
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The only way a team in Toronto will ever do well if it's a cinderella team like the Habs last year. Once this city starts viewing a team as a contender and putting serious expectations on them it's mentally paralyzing for them.
 
I need a break, a long one. There is no enjoyment in watching this team. I’m just not interested anymore.
 
Kapanen just schooled Rielly

We traded that guy for a prospect(who will be a good one) in about 3 years
When our window is now

I understand the cap stuff, but I would have kept him over Kerfoot
 
This is where the Leafs leadership steps up and they begin their comeback.

or



They’ll fold up like a Mathews purse.
 
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They aren't mentally weak. There's just too much pressure in Toronto, most players would have a hard time mentally in this environment. In order to succeed in Toronto the players have to be underdogs with nothing to lose and a desire to prove themselves - that's kind of what we were when the big 3 were on their ELCs. The fame and scrutiny and pressure that comes with a big contract in Toronto would probably be hard for 99% of players. There aren't many people like Doug Gilmour who can handle that.
Seems to me that a player like Marner deserves all the criticism he gets. He held a gun to this organization's head. It's not endearing when someone is that selfish.
 
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It is so painfully obvious that the cap allocation on this team does not work. The Leafs will not succeed until the next manager realizes this, and by that point the Leafs will have to take steps backwards before they can move forward.
 
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